Trump wants Russia to commit espionage

So you're going to vote for someone that is a liar?

They're both liars. This year, our only choices are terrible. This would actually get people into voting third parties, but it would divide voters even more. Be prepared for a low voter turnout.
 
Why do you think it will be a low voter turnout?

Because almost nobody really likes them. But it's not low as in 150 people voting.

The last time we had two unpopular people like that running for office was 1876.
 
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He also said that Putin showed better leadership than Obama.

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Because almost nobody really likes them. But it's not low as in 150 people voting.

The last time we had two unpopular people like that running for office was 1876.

1976 wasn't an election with popular choices...
 
Baba Vanga predicted that the black president would be the last president of the United States. She died in 1996. I hope that works in our favor, that is if this prediction were to actually come true.
 
Baba Vanga predicted that the black president would be the last president of the United States. She died in 1996. I hope that works in our favor, that is if this prediction were to actually come true.

I read more into that. I also read about her earlier prophecies and how they came true. And there are signs that this is coming true.

Secession talk in Texas is huge.
Many states couldn't agree with Obamacare and his other federal policies.
The constitution violations are at the peak.
There were two talks on shutting down the US government when Obama was in office. The second one was what lead to our government being shut down.

I'm also aware that even if our country doesn't divide next year, it will divide again in the near future.

The only thing I already know that's going to happen next year is the total solar eclipse over the United States.
 
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I read more into that. I also read about her earlier prophecies and how they came true. And there are signs that this is coming true.

Secession talk in Texas is huge.
Many states couldn't agree with Obamacare and his other federal policies.
The constitution violations are at the peak.
There were two talks on shutting down the US government when Obama was in office. The second one was what lead to our government being shut down.

I'm also aware that even if our country doesn't divide next year, it will divide again in the near future.

The only thing I already know that's going to happen next year is the total solar eclipse over the United States.

--that would be awesome if Texas left, i doubt anybody would bother stopping them. I don't know how anybody in Texas would make any money though, without access to American oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico, and without access to fraudulent billing of the American medicare/medicaid systems.

--pretty sure the President of the US, being a branch of the federal government, is going to have federal policies. Also, the so-called Obamacare is a law that was passed by congress, it isn't a policy.

--I agree that Republicans are violating the Constitution, but I don't know that it's at a peak. the peak was probably under President Reagan.

--not sure what you mean about the country being divided, but if Texas leaves, that would make room for Britain to join us, I heard they're looking for a new union! ;)
 
I read more into that. I also read about her earlier prophecies and how they came true. And there are signs that this is coming true.

Secession talk in Texas is huge.
Many states couldn't agree with Obamacare and his other federal policies.
The constitution violations are at the peak.
There were two talks on shutting down the US government when Obama was in office. The second one was what lead to our government being shut down.

I'm also aware that even if our country doesn't divide next year, it will divide again in the near future.

The only thing I already know that's going to happen next year is the total solar eclipse over the United States.

Republicans are really patriotic. They keep talking about secession and chose a nominee who thinks our military is weak and likes the president of Russia more than the president of the U.S. Trump knows very little about the Constitution that they keep saying Obama is ignoring. Displaying the American flag everywhere and owning a bunch of guns and driving a pick-up truck does not make you a patriot if you think America sucks and you want to get out as soon as a black guy becomes president.
 
So you're going to vote for someone that is a liar?

OK, you're gonna have to post some proof of this. What has she said that makes everyone froth at the mouth like this? I'm curious.

All politicians lie, but some lie more than others. Go to politifact.com and compare Hillary's record during this campaign to Trump's. I think it's pretty clear which one is the mega liar.
 
Someone who hopes to be the leader of a nation should try to reign in their sarcasm. What if he had made a sarcastic remark that could've been considered a threat by another country?

I think we all know by now that trump will say whatever trump wants to say. He has the finances to do whatever he so pleases and he chooses to run this poor excuse of a country and I honestly think he's pretty damned devoted considering he could own an entire island to himself if he wanted and live there with his family too.
 

He said it in a serious tone and then tweeted the same thing. He just he was being sarcastic because he knew this was something that could actually cost him the election if people think he is being cozy with an adversary of the U.S.

He hasn't even taken down the tweet yet as I write this. Does he really think we're that stupid or is he just that stupid?
 
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--that would be awesome if Texas left, i doubt anybody would bother stopping them. I don't know how anybody in Texas would make any money though, without access to American oil wells in the Gulf of Mexico, and without access to fraudulent billing of the American medicare/medicaid systems.

I'm sure they would have money because of all of these corporations in the state. But these businesses in Texas (GameStop, Whataburger, Whole Foods etc) will become international businesses when we're out. And you're right that Texas is not going to do as well when we're free from America, but America would be way worse off without Texas, unless if we start utilizing international trade. A couple of businesses in the US are in Texas, but there's still a lot more outside Texas. So we can still make money off of business units outside Texas while American companies can still make money off of business units in Texas, but we don't have to enforce what the federal government wants to enforce as long as we're out, which includes all of these radical-leftist laws and policies like government-sanctioned political correctness or socialism.

--pretty sure the President of the US, being a branch of the federal government, is going to have federal policies. Also, the so-called Obamacare is a law that was passed by congress, it isn't a policy.

I may have admitted being against Obamacare, but now I'm only in favor of removing some parts of it. Sure, we can keep the enrollment program and Cadillac plan, but I would at least like to toss out the employer insurance mandate, individual mandate, the contraceptive mandate Hobby Lobby fought against two years ago, and that mandate that requires all foodservice businesses to post calorie count information on public menus rather than the internet.

--I agree that Republicans are violating the Constitution, but I don't know that it's at a peak. the peak was probably under President Reagan.

I wouldn't say that the Republicans are violating the constitution, but they sure are violating civil rights. And it's not the Bill of Rights that I'm focusing on since that always gets violated. It's more about the separation of powers, states rights vs federalism, and sometimes abusing other parties. You know those supreme court rulings from last year? They took legislative action when it's really not their job.

And yes, I am conservative biased. Incurable conservative bias it is. But I would not preach hate, rudeness, or meanness as I am mad at the Republican Party for "acting like Cranky villagers and Snooty villagers in Animal Crossing". I couldn't find a proper term, so I used an Animal Crossing analogy for it.

--not sure what you mean about the country being divided, but if Texas leaves, that would make room for Britain to join us, I heard they're looking for a new union! ;)

I would say that it's a good idea. Texas leaving will make America unable to win for the Republican party while Texans can stay away from stricter gun laws and speech codes.

Sorry if I went off-topic, but Trump behaving like this shows that I have no respect in this guy. Using international enemies to fight your domestic enemies is clear hostility.
 

I can't quote directly from the NY Times article as my tablet is currently refusing to copy+paste. But paragraph 6 (and on) explains the significant discrepancy between what he and his team were saying immediately after the comments were made, and what is being claimed now. The article does not support the premise that he is telling the truth now and was simply being sarcastic.
 
hillary is responsible for the war on drugs (funded programs using the clinton foundation), is funded by the saudi arabian government, and probably had a hand in the war on the middle east, resulting in deaths of innocent civilians

trump may be an idiot but its obvious whos hands are soaked in blood

but if were just caring about americans only then yes trump is the worse option, but hillary has her hands soaked from blood from her involvement in the middle east. trump is just a rich *******.

personally i dont care because i cant vote, but both are scumbags. hillarys worse in my eyes because she 1) put the nation in danger 2) funded programs that got many innocent people in jail 3) is a liar con artist who only cares where the money lies

treating Hillary as worse here seems like a huge logical fallacy imo, given how near every reason you gave for being worse happen to be things *because* she has a prior history in higher-up politics

meanwhile Trump has given no indication that he'd be any better if he was given governmental power. quite simply he's only proven himself to be a sociopathic fascist neo-nazi that wouldn't hesitate to instigate if not outright declare war on any country he felt like


Hillary is by no means great herself, but one of these candidates I consider normal bad, and the other to be an active threat to the entire planet if given authoritical power. I don't think it should be hard to guess which is which
 
treating Hillary as worse here seems like a huge logical fallacy imo, given how near every reason you gave for being worse happen to be things *because* she has a prior history in higher-up politics

meanwhile Trump has given no indication that he'd be any better if he was given governmental power. quite simply he's only proven himself to be a sociopathic fascist neo-nazi that wouldn't hesitate to instigate if not outright declare war on any country he felt like


Hillary is by no means great herself, but one of these candidates I consider normal bad, and the other to be an active threat to the entire planet if given authoritical power. I don't think it should be hard to guess which is which

trump puts his mouth where his heart lies, hillary doesnt. id rather have an honest candidate than one who is backed by foreign money and does favors. i mean the clinton foundation is LITERALLY responsible for dictators in africa gaining power, who by the way had several human rights crimes pop up. she is responsible for more suffering than trump ever did. there are tons of documentaries about the shady stuff the clinton foundation has funded/been funded by.

im normally a leftist but hillary is responsible for actual deaths. trump isn't a neo nazi, even though he dislikes illegal immigrants, that does not make him a neo nazi. afaik hes not a white supremacist.

oh and trump is bad at economy, hes not a good business man, but id still have a ****ty business man who says dumb **** over a lady who does whatever the highest backer pays her to do. i also have my own personal reasons to dislike her as well, i know she had no choice but to defend a child rapist but to me it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth for her to laugh at it. child rapists are a whole another thing to me, but i despise them very much.

i dont understand why everyone thinks trump is the next hitler. yes he is disapproving of illegal immigrants and muslims, but so is cruz and pretty much every other republician.. now if he said whites were superior then yeah, but not wanting illegal immigrants is not the same thing as genociding a group of people
 
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i dont understand why everyone thinks trump is the next hitler. yes he is disapproving of illegal immigrants and muslims, but so is cruz and pretty much every other republician.. now if he said whites were superior then yeah, but not wanting illegal immigrants is not the same thing as genociding a group of people

Are you familiar with the rise of national socialism in Germany? Have you ever heard of Kristallnacht? I'll clue you in: Hitler didn't just one day say 'let's exterminate the Jews'. It started slow and only reached its culmination in the early 40's with death camps. Hitler had been in power for almost 10 years by that time. I can see how building a wall to keep certain people out or denying people of certain religions from entering the country could be seen as a sign of things to come.

What would be next? Signs in the windows of Muslim-owned businesses marking them as Muslims? Maybe having them wear something that would easily identify them? It all soeems familiar--and totally realistic IMHO.

Edit: I misspelled Kristallnacht. How silly of me!
 
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trump puts his mouth where his heart lies, hillary doesnt. id rather have an honest candidate than one who is backed by foreign money and does favors. i mean the clinton foundation is LITERALLY responsible for dictators in africa gaining power, who by the way had several human rights crimes pop up. she is responsible for more suffering than trump ever did. there are tons of documentaries about the shady stuff the clinton foundation has funded/been funded by.

again, this is because Hillary *has* had high-ranking political power, while Trump hasn't. also I don't see how Trump is any better for being more "honest" (which is hysterical in and of itself), when that honesty is in being a horrifically toxic person. it's like saying the person who openly says they shot and killed someone is better than the person who stole money from them beforehand then lied about it

child rapists are a whole another thing to me, but i despise them very much.

so how about that recently filed child rape lawsuit against Trump?

now if he said whites were superior then yeah

no person vying for a position of power is going to flat out say that, especially in a country with such an extreme level of diversity in all fields. it'd be basically a death sentence for your entire political career, though it is a notable underlying subset and political motivator for the right wing
 
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