Trump wants Russia to commit espionage

they'e both evil in their own ways , politics has gotten so corrupt and i can't believe that we have to choose between these two jokes .
 
It feels like some people on this thread don't understand what people are like or how they work.

Hilary Clinton and Donald Trump are both *******s and I dislike both of them just as much as the next person, but Hilary is infinitely the better option of the two. OKAY, so if you hate Hilary so much, who will you vote for? Donald Trump is not any better. If you vote for a third party, then Trump is just going to win.

Hilary has done bad things, she does ****ty things, but she is still the lesser of two evils. Some of her policies could be beneficial to the US and she's not as much of a racist as Trump is. People are not like binaries. You can't just have "good people" and "bad people". Hilary may not be a good person, she may not be a bad person. She has good characteristics, she has good policies, but she also has bad characteristics, and a past that suggests she is probably not a good candidate. But Donald Trump has proven through and through he is a disgusting person. People who try to defend Trump saying that he has done good things in the past or whatever - yes, even bad people can do GOOD things.

They may both be *******s, but Hilary is the LEAST *******-ish out of them. So it just makes sense to vote for her, really.
 
Celestefey said:
OKAY, so if you hate Hilary so much, who will you vote for? Donald Trump is not any better. If you vote for a third party, then Trump is just going to win.
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noah fence but its not a vote for trump as I never put trumps name anywhere on the ballot. MOOD rn.

Hilary has done bad things, she does ****ty things, but she is still the lesser of two evils. Some of her policies could be beneficial to the US and she's not as much of a racist as Trump is
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Yep Killary was not as racist as she said these things /s. Racism is racism, its not measurable. There's four different links I hope you check them all out.

People are not like binaries. You can't just have "good people" and "bad people". Hilary may not be a good person, she may not be a bad person. She has good characteristics, she has good policies, but she also has bad characteristics, and a past that suggests she is probably not a good candidate. But Donald Trump has proven through and through he is a disgusting person. People who try to defend Trump saying that he has done good things in the past or whatever - yes, even bad people can do GOOD things.
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...good things like totally obliterate other countries right?
They may both be *******s, but Hilary is the LEAST *******-ish out of them. So it just makes sense to vote for her, really.
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Throwback to when hillary said this about gay people.

Hillary is a terrible person, I'll never be supporting her.
 
improper said:
noah fence but its not a vote for trump as I never put trumps name anywhere on the ballot. MOOD rn.

Yep Killary was not as racist as she said these things /s. Racism is racism, its not measurable. There's four different links I hope you check them all out.

...good things like totally obliterate other countries right?
Throwback to when hillary said this about gay people.

Hillary is a terrible person, I'll never be supporting her.
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Honestly the issue at hand for people in battleground states is if they want Hillary "I love black people I'll bandage the problem but not treat the symptoms" Clinton or Donald "HAHAHAHA **** ANYONE WANTING TO ENTER THE COUNTRY WHO HAPPENS TO BE BROWN ALSO **** THE BROWN PEOPLE ALREADY HERE" Trump.

It's a terrible system we have, but, lesser of two evils I guess.

I live in a solid blue state. I vote for whoever I want though.
 
improper said:
noah fence but its not a vote for trump as I never put trumps name anywhere on the ballot. MOOD rn.

Yep Killary was not as racist as she said these things /s. Racism is racism, its not measurable. There's four different links I hope you check them all out.

...good things like totally obliterate other countries right?
Throwback to when hillary said this about gay people.

Hillary is a terrible person, I'll never be supporting her.
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Yes I know, I know that she's done awful things, I'm not trying to defend that at all (if you read my post I did state that I know she's an *******), so you're honestly saying you'd rather vote third party (or not at all lmfao) and then divide the democratic vote up even more, so Donald Trump stands more of a chance. The Republicans are pretty united over wanting Trump to be president so they'll just end up with the majority vote overall if people don't vote for Hilary. So it's either her or Trump, and I think Trump is the worse candidate. Imo.
 
I'm not sure if anybody said this, but here's a good reason why Trump won the Republican primaries/caucuses:

You can read the news about the election, but you would be more informed if you pay attention to the comments and not just the news. People are sick of the federal government. They are tired of the lies and hypocrisies our government has done to us. Those on the right who are tired of the lies and hypocrisies would vote for Trump while those on the left who are tired of lies and hypocrisies would vote for Sanders. Yes, Trump is the worst one for the Republican primaries, but people have been more negative towards Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, as Ben Carson and John Kaisch don't seem popular. Ted Cruz is a true religious wingnut. And let's not forget that on his first year of senatorship he lead a group of people to shut down the federal government mainly to defund Obamacare. The hardcore conservatives would vote for Cruz, but a lot of them would support Trump since Cruz behaved very poorly when he was a senator. Even a couple of Republicans (including George Bush) hate this guy. Now he has ruined his political career to the point where he won't even get another job in the federal government once 2018 passes.

If this was the same case with the Democrats, then Bernie would've won, but I think Hillary won because she rigged the primaries. It could also be that the people who voted for Hillary rather than Bernie have lived through the Cold War while those who were in favor for him were too young or were never even born during the Cold War to experience the Cold War years. Bernie claims to be a socialist, and socialists are very unpopular among those that lived during the Cold War.

Just letting you know, that's why we are left with Hillary and Trump.
 
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Did people really just compare the presidential nominees to villager personalities>
 
Tom said:

Trump would undoubtedly cause more unrest than Hillary would and divide the nation further. And that's all I'm sayin on that matter.
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Hillary is a big liar and couldn't keep secrets. Well they are both bad. But Trump is somewhat better.
 
Apple2012 said:
I'm not sure if anybody said this, but here's a good reason why Trump won the Republican primaries/caucuses:

You can read the news about the election, but you would be more informed if you pay attention to the comments and not just the news. People are sick of the federal government. They are tired of the lies and hypocrisies our government has done to us. Those on the right who are tired of the lies and hypocrisies would vote for Trump while those on the left who are tired of lies and hypocrisies would vote for Sanders. Yes, Trump is the worst one for the Republican primaries, but people have been more negative towards Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio, as Ben Carson and John Kaisch don't seem popular. Ted Cruz is a true religious wingnut. And let's not forget that on his first year of senatorship he lead a group of people to shut down the federal government mainly to defund Obamacare. The hardcore conservatives would vote for Cruz, but a lot of them would support Trump since Cruz behaved very poorly when he was a senator. Even a couple of Republicans (including George Bush) hate this guy. Now he has ruined his political career to the point where he won't even get another job in the federal government once 2018 passes.

If this was the same case with the Democrats, then Bernie would've won, but I think Hillary won because she rigged the primaries. It could also be that the people who voted for Hillary rather than Bernie have lived through the Cold War while those who were in favor for him were too young or were never even born during the Cold War to experience the Cold War years. Bernie claims to be a socialist, and socialists are very unpopular among those that lived during the Cold War.

Just letting you know, that's why we are left with Hillary and Trump.
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The reason why Clinton and Trump are the nominees is because the U.S. has a plurality winner-take-all election system which means it's better to have a few die-hard supporters than lukewarm consensus support. Marco Rubio was probably the most liked candidate among Republicans overall, but his problem was that he was everyone's second choice and no one's first choice. Trump and Cruz are guys you either love or hate, but with our election system, being someone's favorite is all that matters and being someone's second favorite choice is just as bad as being the least favorite choice, so that's why Trump is the nominee and Cruz came in second. On the Democratic side, most Clinton supporters also liked Sanders, but just not as much as Clinton. On the other hand, there are a lot of Sanders supporters who don't like Clinton at all. Honestly, the system favored Clinton not because of anything the DNC did, but because of how the Constitution is written which favors factional candidates over consensus candidates.
 
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The reason why Clinton and Trump are the nominees is because the U.S. has a plurality winner-take-all election system which means it's better to have a few die-hard supporters than lukewarm consensus support. Marco Rubio was probably the most liked candidate among Republicans overall, but his problem was that he was everyone's second choice and no one's first choice. Trump and Cruz are guys you either love or hate, but with our election system, being someone's favorite is all that matters and being someone's second favorite choice is just as bad as being the least favorite choice, so that's why Trump is the nominee and Cruz came in second. On the Democratic side, most Clinton supporters also liked Sanders, but just not as much as Clinton. On the other hand, there are a lot of Sanders supporters who don't like Clinton at all. Honestly, the system favored Clinton not because of anything the DNC did, but because of how the Constitution is written which favors factional candidates over consensus candidates.
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I was somewhat accurate, but you pretty much nailed it. Thanks for telling me more about it. It's still true that people are tired of the government lying to them and breaking their promises, but my information alone isn't enough for the big picture.
 
guys it doesnt matter who becomes president it will get worse either way... its either corrupt status quo or an alt right posterboy...it dont matter..were all doooooooomed...

its ok we have twinks4trump and bottoms4hillary though. american politics sure are progressive huh
 
Honestly don't understand how people can be this stupid

and yeah America is doomed either way
 
Apple2012 said:
Wow! They're that bad to where it's offensive to compare to mean Animal Crossing characters as the AC characters would take offense?! I used that analogy because the four personalities in Animal Crossing per gender usually mean something.

Lazy/Normal - nice and sweet
Smug/Uchi - well-mannered, but strict
Jock/Peppy - immature, but playful
Cranky/Snooty - meanies (snobs and bullies)

If I ignored how racist Donald Trump is, Clinton's e-mail scandal, and their political views, but focused on their behavior during their campaigns, this is exactly where they land (cranky/snooty).
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Snooty does not equal snobby, despite how it sounds. In Japan, Snooty is actually the adult female personality. They do like to gossip, but their views are more mature. Crankies are also more mature than the other villagers. Trump is a baby in an old man's body.
 
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