Update v2.0 + HHP Discussion Thread
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HappyTails
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The cliff-side ladder really comes in handy for small spaces or cliffs that really don't need a large incline.
I'm making a small clifftop river and pond behind my Nook Shop so I can catch the fish that are exclusive to those areas. It wouldn't have looked right with bulky inclines. Then I remembered: Cliffside perma ladders.
Underrated feature, I believe.
I'm making a small clifftop river and pond behind my Nook Shop so I can catch the fish that are exclusive to those areas. It wouldn't have looked right with bulky inclines. Then I remembered: Cliffside perma ladders.
Underrated feature, I believe.
So I've grinded away towards getting all 407 villagers (413 total - 6 Sanrio characters) a vacation home. I'm now sitting at 403/407, with just 4 to go. Though the last few days have been somewhat unexpected. By the end of Tuesday, the queue was drying up (only 17 villagers not on my island remained), so when I was done for the day I had nobody on the front beach. By the end of Wednesday, I was only able to do 12 of the remaining 17 non-island villagers, with nobody left on the front beach and the cafe/restaurant villagers with requests replaced by villagers who already had vacation homes. On Thursday I was only able to do one villager, and I completed my remaining island villager requests. Now today's Friday, as I said I still have 4 to go, but...there's literally nobody with a request. My front beach, restaurant and cafe are all filled with villagers who've already gotten vacation homes. What bizarre behaviour, lmao. Hopefully the game's just really spacing out the final 4 requests and it isn't bugged.
mayor_christin
Senior Member
I donāt think so. The frozen fence DIY is from a balloon during snowflake season.
Edit: sorry I was wrong. There is one new DIY, the frozen mini snowperson DIY that you get from making a perfect snowperson.
Yes, they have one new DIY available, the frozen mini snowperson.
QueenOpossum
Trash Queen
I'm having trouble finding the answer. I know to "finish" HHP
...but I remember seeing other things, but I don't see articles mentioning them. I know doing
what else unlocks more things?
you do 30 houses and it unlocks the apparel shop and DJ KK concert
3 sets of roommates unlocks...something. And donating to the hospital...
The two main things that unlock other features in HHP are houses and time. Extra room for facilities are unlocked in other ways, like roommates, donations and your title. Just covering this in slightly more detail in the spoiler below:
For houses, the last time the # of houses you've made unlocks something is at 33. You'll unlock the final set of soundscapes from Wardell at this point. Obviously you'll have unlocked a whole bunch of things before this (DJ KK, the facilities) as well.
For time, once you've played HHP for 12+ days and have unlocked all the soundscapes, you'll get the Room Sketch app, which is the final time-locked feature available. Things like receiving pillars/counters, variations of pillars/counters, flowers and bugs end up being time-locked as well.
For rooms, you'll be able to unlock an extra room in 3 different facilities. As you noted, you unlock the hospital expansion (patient ward iirc) by donating. You unlock the restaurant expansion (private dining room) by having 3 roommate pairs. And you unlock the cafe expansion (art gallery) by having the "Superstar Designer" title.
For time, once you've played HHP for 12+ days and have unlocked all the soundscapes, you'll get the Room Sketch app, which is the final time-locked feature available. Things like receiving pillars/counters, variations of pillars/counters, flowers and bugs end up being time-locked as well.
For rooms, you'll be able to unlock an extra room in 3 different facilities. As you noted, you unlock the hospital expansion (patient ward iirc) by donating. You unlock the restaurant expansion (private dining room) by having 3 roommate pairs. And you unlock the cafe expansion (art gallery) by having the "Superstar Designer" title.
QueenOpossum
Trash Queen
Thank you for the super detailed reply!!! Really helpful, I dont know why the articles dont have this info, it seems important.
Airysuit
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So i have a question about the 'finish' of hhp
Will kk now forever be on the beach???
Don't get me wrong I kinda like the dance, but it is TOTALLY not my vibe nor my favourite way of spending holidays or work for that matter... So I kinda hope he only will be there on specific times or something and not creating to much ugly decorations and noise all the time.
Don't get me wrong I kinda like the dance, but it is TOTALLY not my vibe nor my favourite way of spending holidays or work for that matter... So I kinda hope he only will be there on specific times or something and not creating to much ugly decorations and noise all the time.
Help!I try to add K.K. song into house on hhp but when i select on music tool give me only a selection of track of k.k. and not all track that i'have unlock into the game.There is some task to do to use all k.k song into your house and facilities?
IndiaHawker
Senior Member
Stupid question but Iām still pretty early on in HHP! But surely not every villager can have a home as you run out of space unless thereās something Iām missing?
No. DJ KK will only appear biweekly (once every 2 weeks). He goes for 30 hours once he starts, beginning on Sunday at 6 PM and finishes at Tuesday at 12 AM. He'll disappear the next day after the ending, with his next appearance being 2 weeks after you first unlocked the ending.
Not all songs are unlocked for use in HHP at the start. As you keep doing vacation homes for your villagers, you'll unlock more and more KK songs to use for their homes and any facilities.
No, you have an infinite amount of space so it is perfectly doable. I've more or less done it, with 403/407 attainable villagers w/o amiibos gotten. I think it's bugged out on the final 4 for me, though.
Do custom designs overlap in HHP like they do on your island?
what I mean is, if I used the glow in the dark sticker on a client's home (as windows), and then I saved a different custom design in its spot later after I'm finished w/ the house, will the design change in the house as well?
what I mean is, if I used the glow in the dark sticker on a client's home (as windows), and then I saved a different custom design in its spot later after I'm finished w/ the house, will the design change in the house as well?
New update (v2.0.4) has been released. It took a few minutes to download for me, which was unexpected. Curious to see the release notes for this one now.
Edit: Release notes:
Big fan of those ~mystery fixes~.
Edit: Release notes:
Big fan of those ~mystery fixes~.
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McRibbie
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It's been 4 months since 2.0 came out, and I haven't written up my thoughts on it since then. What's been happening? (I've been busy, it's a long thread to do)
- Once again, I'm just going to reiterate my "GOD, THIS WAS TOO SOON" position on it being the last update, especially given it's got a lot of good stuff in it, but I'm still wanting more from NH, both in terms of features and furniture... but on the other hand, I can't especially think of any more features that belong in NH, aside from "add more dialogue", āadd more furnitureā and āadd more villager requestsā
- Thereās also the horrible feeling Iām getting that theyāre packing it in this early because of all the āthis is terrible, worst AC game everā feedback (and getting to work on another AC game instead of continuing to develop something people have nothing but ire for) To be fair, this gameās been in development for just under 5 years as of it endingā¦ but thereās still ultimately lots they could do. It feels like a bit of a cop out, if thatās what theyāre doing. Admittedly, theyāve got a good base for doing so: thereās a load of pre-existing HD assets now, so thereās going to be a stronger base gameā¦ but I think itāll still use the update system because HD game development takes much longer than SD game development, (and Nintendoās been using it to avoid the drought of games that plagued the Wii U, for better or for worseā¦ and for sports games for no reason I can think of) but probably not to the extent that NH does.
- They did the Isabelle announcement thing. Expected, but still disappointed. At least you can sometimes still hear the original announcements on Sunday afternoon?
- The Roost! Initially disappointed that the coffee serving minigame's gone, but like April Fool's, it's hardly a minigame, more "you can basically always win this if you look the answers up", so I'm not completely unhappy about it. What I AM happy about is that the best part of the minigame (the prizes) are now items you get from befriending Brewster, which fits this version of The Roost (a place to get to know people) VERY well imo. Also a big fan of the water in Roost-themed glasses you get if you don't have enough money, which is hilarious
- As I hoped was going to happen, EVERYONE (who's got an amiibo card) IS HERE! In The Roost, not on your island. Which is understandable, they would have gone "hey, look at all the new visitors on your island!" if they were properly coming backā¦ but itās also a bummer that theyāve not found functionality for even some of them (aside from the stuff Iāll talk about later) Escorting Katie to the airport, dancing with Dr. Shrunk in the music festival at HHP, cooking for Wendellā¦ all these feel like missed opportunities, imo.
- One last thing about the Roost, as a segue into talking about Kappān: a very big fan of how Brewster's unlockedā¦ although it looks like the NL townās a ghost town now everybodyās on the island? Also love that you get his picture as a way of going āhey, all NPCs have pics now!ā and identifying him, the way it also serves as an introduction to gyroids, and his gyroid polo shirt (yet another really nice item of clothing we canāt wear ourselves, tho)
- Kapp'n's songs are good, but there's not enough of them in rotation considering it's something you do every day. That's two Animal Crossing games in a row where you're going to hear something about cucumbers annoyingly regularly, dammit!
- As for the islands themselves, I like them! However, Iāve got one contradictory complaint: on one hand, theyāre now essentially time travelling without time travelling, taking away any point of waiting until the next time the season rolls around to get any of the new seasonal DIYs added. On the otherā¦ thereās no September island, so I canāt salmon fish year-round and get the salmon recipes.
- One last separate gripe: The tropical vine island also looks like summer, but its creature spawns seem to be the same as whatever time of year your island is instead of being summer?
- Harv's Island. Hmmm. On the one hand, I'm glad to see that the NPCs aren't completely bound to it, and will still take the time to visit your island. On the other hand, that's somehow worse than them permanently moving there because it's a bad compromise. I don't feel as if they're travelling around the various islands peddling their wares anymore, now they're just entirely within your island's orbit; and there's no real benefit to having them on there in terms of convenience because their stock doesn't change daily, which begs the question: why are they there exactly?
- On the plus side of things regarding Harv's co-op, I'm a really big fan of Katrina's cleansing items (dharmas are back, and they're not weirdly pink anymore!), Redd's raffle (I've got a couple of gripes with it, like "why aren't the food items from the fireworks raffle in there?" and "we've got new soda cans, but why aren't the ones villagers drink there?" but otherwise, NH is still the one to beat for handheld items), and the fact that Kicks and Saharah have new stock added as well (there are handheld bags now too, although again, thereās still stuff villagers hold that we canāt)
- As Iāve also said elsewhere, yup, Harriet also becomes redundant after you unlock all her hairstylesā¦ AND Reece is basically just there to go āisnāt Cyrusās customisation amazing?ā every time you do anything with him. Couldnāt she have done selling online or something?
- Group stretching is quite fun, and itās got multiple rewards this time as opposed to the aerobics radio in GC, even if it did take me until this month to get them. But, at the same time, I find it kind of weird how it worksā¦ it just feels like when you go to do it, youāre forcibly dragging half the populace of your island to do it by having it available to do all the time, rather than it happening organically in the GC game. Itās nice itās finally back (especially as NL had the opportunity to but didnāt) but at the same time, itās hampered by the same kind of overconvenience that NH is dragged down by.
- Ordinances: generally indifferent to the fact theyāre only about an hour longer each way because opening at 7amās still good for me, really annoyed that itās not started killing off my flowers.
- Cooking has become my go-to activity when I need some energy, because I can pretend Iām having a meal in game. Whipping up some bread gratin and cookies, or pizza margarita and cherry tart, helps me out immensely.
- Kinda see the appeal of the white picket fence now? The green oneās also pretty nice, too.
- Overall, Iām pretty pleased with the new Nook Miles items, especially the windpump style windmill, the two gazebos, the round streetlight and the pergolaā¦ but thereās still a few PWPs Iām missing, like the tower (missed opportunity to give it to Gulliver!), the zen bell, the streetlight thatās just a lamp mounted on a pole, the modern clock and the statue fountain.
- K.K. Robot Synth is one of the worst names theyāve given a K.K. song, and I find it weird that K.K.ās singing in it because it just sounds like normal K.K. singing rather than a robot. Also not a huge fan of K.K. Hop being called that instead of K.K. Hip Hop, because calling it K.K. Hop just makes me think of a 1950s dance (but I like THAT song). In general, my favourite K.K. songs from 2.0 are that, K.K. Break, K.K. Polka, K.K. Bashment (the eShop song that never was), and Chillwave. The others I could take or leave, really. The lack of the hazure song airchecks is a bit of a bummer, but I can wait another few years?
- On a related note, still looking for that damn music box DIY.
- I think one of the main things Iāve enjoyed with 2.0 is gyroid collecting (although some proved more elusive than othersā¦ looking at you, squeakoid). Putting them on my basement wall has really livened the place up. I do think that giving them all the same size makes a lot of them look similar facially, and I miss a couple of the older ones like the dekkoid and the dingloid, but Iām glad to see a couple of them are actually kinda creepyā¦ because theyāre ultimately sentient clay funeral statues, if they were entirely cute itād take the edge off of them.
- In terms of new furniture: thereās some new stuff, some of which I donāt know how Iāve lived without! Thereās some old stuff, some of which Iāve really missed! It inevitably looks gorgeous (for the most part, anyway)! Itās somehow the most furniture weāve had in a mainline AC game according to Nookipediaā¦ and yet I can name at least 100 things Iām personally missing from older games (not just in the generic āI very clearly just mean New Leafā way, stuff from the original and the Japanese versions of the original too, although a couple of things from DnM+ are now in the Nook Shopping seasonal category, like the osechi, which I like a lot).
- Iām also a bit disappointed in the fact that while thereās new clothing, wallpaper and flooring, there isnāt as much of those as there is furniture. Thereās a higher hit rate of things I like there as a result, but dammit, Iād like some more of those too! I donāt like a lot of what Pocket Camp offers in terms of items, but itās got lots of nice wallpapers and Iād love to see them in an actual AC game.
- OK, whoever decided villagers should now play High Card, Low Card with you when they pop overā¦ I bloody love you! The forsythia was an omen, because now all villagers get their Bruce Forsyth on whenever they visit you. Thereās also some really nice dialogue there (I especially love lazy villagers talking about the designer who does toy furniture, Sandra Klaez, because it made me look up her name to see if she was real), and Iām also a big fan of villagers giving you their favourite K.K. song when you visit them for the first time.
- However, Iāve got two complaints: a) when they randomly visit you they only ever seem to give me my islandās sister fruit, and b) thereās no āhey, you wanna come around at X timeā, just instantly teleporting to their home.
- Finally, BLACK FRIDAY IS BACK BABEY
- I think I had a period of playing HHP over NH itself, but Iāve since switched backā¦ but I think that was the case with the original HHD, too?
- I do think incorporating it into the main game itself was a good idea, especially as NH is so design-heavy (although I think it rubbishes the idea that NH is ābasically HHDā), but thereās enough differences to the original that I canāt quite decide which one of themās the better ādesign houses for villagersā game.
- I DO think that while thereās less facilities overall compared to the original (less fake shops, and no office and hotel), theyāve actually got a purpose this time around on account of HHP being linked to the main game and being able to actually buy stuff, and donāt just feel like houses decked out to feel like facilitiesā¦ but they kinda do, sometimes? Think it could have also have done with a department store, but at the same time, itād make Wardellās store kind of redundant so Iām OK with it not being there.
- Talking of Wardellās store, god, thatās more overpowered than I thought it would be, but I love it. The ability to unlock a catalogue of stuff that youāve unlocked is a very easy way of getting new furnitureā¦ but not rugs for some reason? Probably why I spent a lot of time with HHP after its launch, just going āI need this for my house, whoās got this?ā The fact that you can actually use the stuff designed for outdoor stuff outdoors now, as well as new furniture not being locked behind amiibo this time, is a big plus.
- Thereās also a Poki exchange thing, which fluctuatesā¦ which is the right level of annoying for AC, imo.
- Once again tho, I feel NH being the first proper HD game in the series and not having a considerable backlog of furniture to do it like the original HHD makes HHP suffer as much as main NH doesā¦ in particular it means that some of the requests are a bit samey sometimes.
- Iām also disappointed in the lack of new curtain options or being able to change window styles, interior doors
- Love the fact that Joan and Nat have little cameos doing things in HHP! Joan, pls keep healthy tho, I wanna see you in the next AC gameā¦ but thanks for the turnips!
- Talking of cameos, DJ KK is back! Not entirely sure how often he comes, but liking that he now feels like an event (and more specifically, like how heās treated similarly to the main gameās climactic K.K. concert) rather than just being K.K.ās other evening gig (but I wonder what heās doing on the other days?), and liking that heās got merch. My one criticism is dude, youāre only playing house nowā¦ whereās your NES remixes?
- Iām also a very big fan of the fact that you can get NPC pics from them for doing their HHP houses! Itās better than just getting them for having their amiibo (this is a very good thing about the posters), but not as good as the red turnip trade imo.
- However, by the looks of things, thereās less lore stuff from the NPCs than there was in HHD, which sucks. Worldbuild for me, dammit!
- As for the stuff that carries over into the main gameā¦ like the pillars, counters and partition walls (especially because they make the awkward 6x10 rooms in your house much better now), especially love the lighting even if it is a bit fiddly to get right because of the reflectionsā¦ but not being able to order Nook to change the size of your rooms sucks a little, because I could fit so much more furniture into the damn things if they were bigger. On the other hand, the 8x8 rooms are a little bit awkward to style on Harvās island, so in some ways itās a relief that we canāt go up to 10x10 in our own houses.
- Iāve said my piece on how Iām feeling mixed feelings about being able to redo villager houses, but one additional grumble I have with it is that theyāll use the bottom right-hand corner for crafting and cookingā¦ regardless of if thereās already something there.
- However, as people have mentioned, the fact that your islanders seem to be cloned on HHP island is weird, and ruins the immersion the same way moving them back in via amiibo does.
- Overall, Iām pretty happy with HHPā¦ but I come and go from it, because designing houses for villagers ultimately isnāt as fun as mainline AC.
- Overall, Iām feeling mixed on NH, as I feel in many ways itās the culmination of a lot of issues thatāve affected the series of a while now, whilst also being a genuinely beautiful game that also gets a lot of what appeals to me about AC right. I canāt hate it, and I feel it gets a bashing for even the most minor things, so Iām determined to find something in there to go āhey, this is goodā. But I canāt love it either, canāt hold it up as the most perfect game in the series, because in my eyes they havenāt made it yet.
- So what do I love about the game? I love the visuals of the surroundings. I love the idea of Animal Crosssing once again being in an isolated community in the middle of nowhere, that people visit instead of setting up permanent shop. I love Redd selling balloons, pinwheels and fans during the fireworks shows again. I love the fact that the dialogue can get darkly comedic at times. I love the idea that villagers donāt just wander around, they do things and actually LIVE. I love the subtle worldbuilding on some of the items to suggest a wider world we never see. I love that they brought back villagers visibly celebrating Turkey Day, and I love how each major festival gets actual decorations and how the items given for it arenāt just āfestival themed generic furniture setā anymore. I love the sheer variety of event items from around the world, including ones from my own country and ones that havenāt been celebrated in AC for years. I love the fact that villagers wonāt permanently change into pattern outfits, and now wear a wide variety of clothes. I love that thereās also backstory-related reasons for people setting up shop on your island rather than just āhey, you spent X money or did this X times, now theyāre hereā, I love the fact that thereās now more types of accessories and cuts of clothing, and I love the fact that when done right, you can enhance the world of Animal Crossing with the decorations.
- At the same time, I hate that the game is further bending backwards to let you avoid the game for months on end, getting rid of any punishment for doing so, and awards me so much control over the villagers that itās slightly unnerving how eager they are to submit to my every whim, even as someone whoās hacked and endlessly reset older games to do these things. I hate the fact I can barely do tasks for villagers anymore, instead leaving them gifts like some kind of sacrifice in the hope theyāll give me a picture. I hate the fact that weāve gone from āshops sell too little quantities of thingsā to āshops sell infinite quantities of things, meaning they too are easy to avoidā I hate the fact that whenever I go into a random dream to get some inspiration, Iām always going to get an over elaborate mess that substitutes its own world for the world of Animal Crossing, instead of enhancing the world itās already set in, and I now hate it even more than I did during the NL era. I hate the fact that none of these things feel tangible and like actual things instead of things plonked down to imply a world. I hate how thereās barely anything to do on the actual day of a festival now, even compared to NL (where the Harvest Festival and Toy Day ones have no repeat value whatsoever). I hate how people have gotten so mad at this game they seemed to be camping out on the official social media pages for Animal Crossing, ready to once again go ādead game + ratioā or āNH BAD!!!!ā, and drove the director off of Twitter, that theyāll make petty digs at it in reviews of other AC games. I hate the fact itās made me get really mad about excessive criticism of the thing (seriously, itās made me into a right jerk sometimes, I do apologise. I got banned from here for 2 days at the worst of it, for crying out loud) because people are getting THAT mad about it, to the point of erasing anything good about it, and once again, I hate the fact that one of the defining pieces of media of the COVID-19 pandemic, and the second-best selling title of the Switch, is over this early.
- (Still, better that than āweāre charging half the price of the game to add double the amount of content to it, so itās gonna end up looking cheap in an inconsistent way, yet weāve remade the music to the same standard as the base gameā that Mario Kart 8 Deluxe is doing)
- Itās also making enjoying NL much more difficult for me, as people seem to memory hole lots of its flaws or contemporary criticisms (lots of which, for better or for worse, have been addressed in NH, to the point where I can blame some of the things I hate about it on these criticisms), or making out that NH does it worse always (even if itās subjectively or objectively better) to make it out as the perfect AC experience (rather than a very good game, but.), to the point where I seem to be finding new things to nitpick at it for whenever I play the damn thing.
- Coming back to something I said at the start, the gap between NH and the next game is not going to be as long as the gap between base NL and NH. Thereās unlikely to be another spinoff considering how badly the other, non HHD one did, (and Animal Crossing amiibo already exist so thereās no reason to try it again either), and the Switch isnāt bombing like the Wii U, which means itās likely that theyāve already started something to do with it.
- For all our sakes, I hope that oneās better received and theyāve learnt the right lessons from NH, because if they donāt, thereās going to be a ton of angry people going āAAAAā againā¦ but I feel as if somebodyās going to get angry about the next game irregardless, whatever they do.
- In conclusion, NH not good or bad. NH very enjoyable but also very frustrating and a wall as far as certain parts of AC go and the cause of me writing a lot of rambling bullet points
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