What makes Animal Crossing villagers different from humans?

You are making too many unnecessary assumptions of what we will agree upon that I can't address them all in one sitting. But I welcome and appreciate your engagement in this interactive reasoning process; thank you. I'd like to keep this at one objection at a time in order to avoid frustration and branching conversations.
I'm slightly confused at what you're getting at here. All I was doing was simply answering the question in the title and stating why I think that Animal Crossing villagers are completely different to humans. I was making a (hopefully) worthy post of being in the thread. :)

Hope you understand.
 
"Humans are real and AC villagers are not." How do you distinguish that?

It is rather easy to distinguish.
We know Animal Crossing villagers aren't real since they aren't living. Whilst they are programmed to do things that we do, like eating, walking, shopping, sleeping, etc, they are just pixels. This doesn't mean they weren't based off of living things. Take Stitches, for example. He has the shape of a bear, but he isn't an actual bear. Bears are living things, who, like humans have the essential organs needed to provide life.
Animal crossing villagers do not have those organs, however their creators do.
They are nothing but combinations of 1's and 0's projected onto a screen to create a game programmed with human qualities and everyday skills
 
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It is rather easy to distinguish.
We know Animal Crossing villagers aren't real since they aren't living. Whilst they are programmed to do things that we do, like eating, walking, shopping, sleeping, etc, they are just pixels. This doesn't mean they weren't based off of living things. Take Stitches, for example. He has the shape of a bear, but he isn't an actual bear. Bears are living things, who, like humans have the essential organs needed to provide life.
Animal crossing villagers do not have those organs, however their creators do.
They are nothing but combinations of 1's and 0's projected onto a screen to create a game programmed with human qualities and everyday skills

"We know Animal Crossing villagers aren't real since they aren't living."

But do you know that humans are living?

"Take Stitches, for example. He has the shape of a bear, but he isn't an actual bear. Bears are living things, who, like humans have the essential organs needed to provide life."

Bears also have the shape of bears. Please clearly explain what distinguishes an actual bear from Stitches.
I can't tell what organs are essential for life because you haven't defined life for me.

"They are nothing but combinations of 1's and 0's projected onto a screen to create a game programmed with human qualities and everyday skills"

But humans are nothing but combinations of different chemicals which light reflects off of and bounces onto our eyes to create the images of humans with human qualities and everyday skills. Is the fact that humans are made of chemicals what make them "alive?" I assume there would need to be more criteria for "living" than being made of chemicals since my chair and desk fit that criteria and we don't usually think of those things as though they are alive.

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Well, I think it's a very interesting concept, but, when you create a 3D model, add textures, animations, and then program it with dialogue you've wrote yourself, there's not much room for anything truly alive. Villagers are programmed to seem as real as possible, and, this conversation proves that the programmers are doing a good job.

Actually, I think they do not intuitively seem real or alive. However, I have a compulsion to be prudently skeptical of the intuitive seemingness of things. So, I am investigating whether or not the intuitive seemingness matches the logical seemingness, as I often do with things. So far, I think the only logically discernible difference is what the AC villagers are made of. And even then, are the AC villagers actually made of 1s, 0s and pixels? Or are they actually made of what the 1s, 0s and pixels are trying to show me they are made of? Like, maybe they are not as they appear on the screen: Bill as seen in the game is just Bill's avatar, know what I mean? Maybe he has actual brown feathers and a yellow beak, but can only communicate with me on a 3DS system which limits the degree to which he can express himself, just like how I am similar to my avatar, but can only communicate with Bill to a limited degree through my 3DS system.
 
Darn, and here I hoped this was a discussion about the differences and connections between animal characters and human characters in Animal Crossing. That would be really neat. I've always wondered what's up with that, why are you (and your friends) the only humans? Where do the rest of the humans live? Are you the only ones?

This kinda "intellectual" debate just feels like thinking unnecessarily deep about things that aren't really going to get you anywhere or solve any problems, even on a small scale...
 
I've always wondered what's up with that, why are you (and your friends) the only humans? Where do the rest of the humans live? Are you the only ones?
Yeah, you are a human in a town without other humans living there (unless you count alternate accounts), but the other animals accept and take no issue to you becoming mayor. Tortimer was mayor before so there is no 'special' expectation that humans should be the mayor. And the letters from the mayor's mother and father indicate that they are living together, and maybe in a town with other humans. And whatever town they are in and whatever its differences from the town you are in, its distance seems to have been covered with a single train ride.

I suppose someone who has played other AC games would draw upon them to paint a picture of the society glimpsed at in NL.
 
Actually, I think they do not intuitively seem real or alive. However, I have a compulsion to be prudently skeptical of the intuitive seemingness of things. So, I am investigating whether or not the intuitive seemingness matches the logical seemingness, as I often do with things. So far, I think the only logically discernible difference is what the AC villagers are made of. And even then, are the AC villagers actually made of 1s, 0s and pixels? Or are they actually made of what the 1s, 0s and pixels are trying to show me they are made of? Like, maybe they are not as they appear on the screen: Bill as seen in the game is just Bill's avatar, know what I mean? Maybe he has actual brown feathers and a yellow beak, but can only communicate with me on a 3DS system which limits the degree to which he can express himself, just like how I am similar to my avatar, but can only communicate with Bill to a limited degree through my 3DS system.

Well, you make a very good point, but, again, there is no room for something living. Whenever I make a 3D model, there is no capability to live. I'm not trying to define life, but, there is no life in that. Even if they were alive, there would be no way for them to tell us that they are, as they are all just programmed to do and say things.
 
Bears also have the shape of bears. Please clearly explain what distinguishes an actual bear from Stitches.

That would be because they are bears.
A real bear eats real things. Walks upon real things. Lives upon real things that we, living things can feel and touch. Stitches is, like I said, a collection of 1's and 0's that lives in 1's and 0's, eats 1's and 0's, and walks upon 1's and 0's, all things that we cannot touch.

No offence or anything, and while this is the point of your thread, I feel as if you're trying too hard to sound 'philisophical' and smart..
I agree with Rose Star, too. It's fun, nonetheless, I suppose ?
 
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Yeah, you are a human in a town without other humans living there (unless you count alternate accounts), but the other animals accept and take no issue to you becoming mayor. Tortimer was mayor before so there is no 'special' expectation that humans should be the mayor. And the letters from the mayor's mother and father indicate that they are living together, and maybe in a town with other humans. And whatever town they are in and whatever its differences from the town you are in, its distance seems to have been covered with a single train ride.

I suppose someone who has played other AC games would draw upon them to paint a picture of the society glimpsed at in NL.
Heh, now that I think about it, NL might be like Adventure Time where there are a lot of anthropomorphic animals, and they see humans as just another animal and their equal.
 
Heh, now that I think about it, NL might be like Adventure Time where there are a lot of anthropomorphic animals, and they see humans as just another animal and their equal.

Lol why are you comparing NL to AT?:p AC came first.You should be comparing AT to AC.Wait a minute,what am I saying that makes no difference...xD
 
Lol why are you comparing NL to AT?:p AC came first.You should be comparing AT to AC.Wait a minute,what am I saying that makes no difference...xD
It came to mind when thinking about NL. Also, I have not played the other AC games, so they would not come to mind as a reference.
 
Well, this thread got a bit more popular than I thought, and it's hard to keep up with all the new posts. So I'll leave this thread open and let you guys talk about it, but I'm going to take this thread off my subscription list. I would be delighted if you decided to argue with me in a private conversation, though; they're much easier to follow.
 
Heh, now that I think about it, NL might be like Adventure Time where there are a lot of anthropomorphic animals, and they see humans as just another animal and their equal.

Humans are animals and you guys need to watch more Digimon. I mean, seriously, this whole "They're just pixels" mentality is exactly what caused Digimon (and every other fictional form of AI) to rebel against humans. I know, it's not the same thing because ACNL is just a game, but AI does exist and consider the possibility that AC character might one day take on the form of AI. Then what? Are they still just pixels, even if they can interact with us and respond with emotion of their own free will? Even if they are, do they not deserve our respect and kindness?
 
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