i dono i posted my old reads. now we got the **** posters or the no poster and the band wagoners. honestly, i tried talking about this before. bnut i feel like crying again so goodnight
@ink, ash is my #1 vote still and im going to hold true until im genuinely convinced otherwise but we all know you have little to offer tonight, you've done nothing but **** post, and when things get heated your #1s are, ATE, and running away bc you get too heated. welcome to the scum read team babe.
i think jacob is scummy too, but i'm more so against his play style and how he's acted in past games which leads me to believe he is scum. i also think theres a good chance inkling might be scum because all she's done so far and de-rail the thread as soon as people actually started coming out of the works and making accusations. a distraction is what she is. it's what she always is. a boring distraction. @ panda, just piss her off and let her scum slip herself. anything else is a waste of time.
I can see why people want to lynch Ashtot now, oh I am so close to jumping on that vote but I am going to think about it before I switch votes. I can see why they are so scum read though
just kidding.
in all seriousness, and this is just me genuinely helping you so you don't seem as flippy floppy- try waiting until everyone (or mostly everyone) posts during the phase we're on (day 1, 2, 3 etc). a lot can happen with someone coming online and posting.
my vote so far is for ashtot. but I'll wait a bit longer cause of ^ what I said up there.
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NO MY SHEEPS dont work. those ?? are suppose to be little sheeps.
just kidding.
in all seriousness, and this is just me genuinely helping you so you don't seem as flippy floppy- try waiting until everyone (or mostly everyone) posts during the phase we're on (day 1, 2, 3 etc). a lot can happen with someone coming online and posting.
my vote so far is for ashtot. but I'll wait a bit longer cause of ^ what I said up there.
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NO MY SHEEPS dont work. those ?? are suppose to be little sheeps.
I am just saying I can see why, I said even I am not switching my vote. I don't see how I am flip floppy when trying to figure out which scum read to vote for and voicing my opinion on it
I am just saying I can see why, I said even I am not switching my vote. I don't see how I am flip floppy when trying to figure out which scum read to vote for and voicing my opinion on it
ayee, whoa. I didn't call you flip floppy. I was just saying if you were conflicted on changing your vote because it might look bad, then that would help for the future.
ayee, whoa. I didn't call you flip floppy. I was just saying if you were conflicted on changing your vote because it might look bad, then that would help for the future.
you said this yesterday, or the day before that.
live us your thoughts. even just a list in colors like i did a few pages back helps. you don't need to post a huge ass scum read, just contribute. even a little.
It is actually sad the way that most of you are playing. I am not even exaggerating when I say that the majority of you look scum as ****, and the rest of you are either standing by acting helpless or echoing the thoughts of other?s that have spoken out.
D1 was a very telling day, and I find it strange how barely any of you have reflected back on it. Town was an absolute ****storm, and mafia definitely had an easy day hiding in it. If it were not for Entropy?s hammer on Crys, we would be in a really bad position now. And the fact that you several of you STILL tried to push on Entropy is just? poor play. Regardless of your alignment- even if you are scum, that is just weak.
NOTE: This is not in order. After I finish with my second post I will list my top three lynch choices. Also some of this is a bit rushed because I don't have much time and also because I literally hate using this laptop. I did not proofread this enough by the way, I already know. That's what happens when you use "Notes" and not a Word doc.
Very likely scum:
Tom
Let me just say that I am more than hesitant to buy his claim. But I will come back to him, because he should not be our lynch for today. I want to look further into his role claim?s unofficial title and see if it aligns with a lyncher role. Overall, I have a gut feeling that he is lying about his claim but I do not want to waste my time analyzing him at this time ONLY because of the storyline of Xenoblade.
Inkling
I am being heavily reminded of Trump mafia where they coast until they are provoked and spend the majority of their time piggybacking off of others reads. They do not have that many posts, so I am going to start from the beginning.
What time Zone are you in? EST
How many games have you played? 2 1/2
How do you react under pressure? depends...some say im emotional but depends on my mood
What role do you want to be? I like any role tbh
What will you be notable for? being scummy, as always
Pronouns. she/her
The answer to number five is extremely off-putting. Was Trump mafia not your first game as scum? Did you not agree that you were being scummy? Of course it was unintentional, but this statement is so counter-intuitive to say if you are town. It?s like you are already defending yourself in a RQS because you already know that you are bound to say something scummy.
Then we have the worst and most obvious coast I?ve ever seen through the majority of Day 1:
First reads of the game, and they posted this 4 hours before the lynch deadline. Inspiring, really. This is of course after Tom posted several times pushing for Entropy.
tbh this sounds like a desperate last plea. You only have 3 votes on you atm and I think everybody would be willing to listen to what you have to say. Its not like everybody here takes everything tom says as gold. I just think its the reactions he's gotten out of you which is making you seem scummy.
How else should we go about finding scum, if not tunneling somebody who's acting very sus?
{Quote from Entropy goes here}
The bolded part is enough for me to justify a lynching on entropy. I already voted for her. Its just all incredibly scummy and so not in line with how usually serious she is with the game. She typically is extremely serious about scum hunting and I've never read these type of filler/lame excuses coming from her.
The strike-out is stuff that I'm not involved with and I have to go back and do a lot of reading to know whats going on.
Sorry guys its been a crazy week. I promise to try and make some quality posts even if they're infrequent.
How can any statement Entropy said be a desperate last plea when there were only three votes on them? Entropy posted actual cases and actual reads - where Tom did not. Yet you sheeped him anyway. It seemed like absolutely EVERYONE overlooked Entropy?s reads. How can you say that everyone was willing to listen? And you are going to need to quote what EXACTLY it was that Entropy said that made you suspicious of them.
Then here is Entropy?s quote that goes in the brackets which Inkling was referring to:
the lynching an inactive thing was mostly just annoyance at how inactive everyone is, and also because i'd love to policy lynch llamas
ok so if ur argument against me is bc i'm not following my scum meta- why are u using ur scum meta as a defense for urself? just stop contradicting urself and i'll be ok :^) i still can't grasp how you can logically think that i'm scum without logically thinking that others are scum because they also aren't taking the game seriously. yes, i understand, i've been joking around this game. but i also promised reads and they're more in depth than basically everybody elses with the exception of sine?s.
It is entirely valid that Tom was contradicting himself several times. What exactly was filler or a lame excuse in this post? What reactions EXACTLY were scummy? Both the first quote and second that Inkling posted are basically looking at Entropy through Tom?s tunneled perspective and ignoring other factors of what was going on. In what universe would town ever sheep this hard?
If Entropy was acting ?so sus? like you said, it should be quite easy for you to explain yourself. I am quite excited to hear it, really.
The second to last line- are you ****ing joking? So you openly admit to not even reading and not having an entirely clear picture of what?s going on and then voting Entropy? Remind me to file that sentence in my ?Things Town Would Never Do? folder.
And then, get ready folks, we have the greatest reaction to a D1 scum lynch of Mafia all time.
That is ridiculous. Something fishy is going on here. Or stupid. I'm making dinner but I will definitely investigate this further along with the Cory thing when I have time later on.
The latter is a reply to Ares, but how on Earth is Ares voting Crys suspicious now? If anything it clears him, what is stupid about it? Of course, those investigation results were never to be revealed. Also, Inkling has mentioned Cory more than absolutely anyone else in the game (I am leaving some quotes out) and I really find their interactions awkward and forced. Inkling, please give your opinion on Cory.
Okay everybody, I am so glad I didn't post this before night ended, but I almost did, and the thread was locked! But this was what I was about to post before night ended:
I swear I was convinced they (trundle+entropy) were mafia bc of that single quote from Crys!!!!!!!!!!!
And I wasn't even following Tom's tunneling too much bc I fell behind and my mom is visiting me and life etc etc.
Anyways, my point is that maf must have exploited this situation.
Did anybody else think Trundle was sus at any point?
Why would it matter? You sheeped a lynch on a PR, even if by some miracle you are town - Do you GENUINELY believe that mafia is actually gonna target you?
ya i changed my mind. u r right. Are you sus of anybody? Sry if I missed it im going back now but would still like to be linked bc this thread moves fast
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i donno tho, i feel like we need to lynch tom. is it too obvious? I don't think so bc enttropy and him had some serious stuff going back and forth
First line: ?Yeah you?re right, we shouldn?t lynch Tom. Hey who are you sus of so I know who to start suspecting too? Sry for not reading like anything haha this thread moves fast!" (Uh, yeah, except that it doesn?t)
Second line: ?I mean, Tom is an easy lynch guys!! Or should I push someone else? I don?t think so because then I?d actually have to pretend to scum hunt for myself!?
CONCLUSION: I cannot believe I missed how scummy you?ve been since gamestart. Not once has Inkling provided their own reasoning, or made a read or statement about someone that someone else had not already said. Inkling sheeped Tom in the final hours of Day so that they wouldn?t be examined on it too much and continue to try to sheep anything anyone says.
Something to note
Tardis has been going after inactives like Llamas and Nightmares, with the exception of Panda if I recall correctly.
This could potentially mean they want to pick off people who aren't here to defend themselves. Tardis is looking more suspicious to me, but an actual read will come in time as they post more. Most likely Day 2 though, whoever dies tonight will probably have a factor in who is what.
We should probably start making notes on who has been arguing against who day 1, as theres been a lot of 1 on 1 talk (ex. Cory vs Xine, Entropy vs Dolby)
While I agree with the first part, the second part completely rubs me the wrong way. Lynching an inactive D1 is almost always a bad idea but why are you withholding your reads like that? If you have a read on someone then you have to actually PUSH them, otherwise you aren?t going to get any information out of your suspicion on them.
This is your first actual suspicion of Ares, so why are you all of a sudden okay with a lynch on Ares? I understand his answer to the RQS was strange- but are you ****ing serious is that really a reason to lynch someone about? And then we have the fence-sitting about Entropy. You don?t give any opinion, either for or against it, that way if you switch your vote you won?t look suspicious because you can justify it by saying ?will keep my mislynch options open!!"
Understandable, but take into account you've seen me as scum one time.
That game I didn't post for days on end, I am trying to get something out of this game. There isn't much solid evidence I can contribute on a 1 day stance; I read:
Tardis Ares
and have given some reason as to why. I don't want to make a huge read because I don't know their alignments and I am not confident with people's roles until at least 1 person dies. That reveals a potential killer - which we have no lead on.
I am not really suspicious of what you are saying here I just simply want to state that confidence in your reads is vital, even if you are wrong. I am reminded of your play style in Tarot mafia when you were scum, because I remember clearly telling you this when you tried to start a case on Toads but then backed off by saying ?Oh I don?t know about this but here?s my opinions?.
You should know that no lynch is NOT an option on Day 1, I remember you saying something along these lines in Tarot as well.
I feel like this post led to the ****storm franticness that was Day 1. I mean, looking at the voting thread is literally comical. There needs to be some type of order, Jacob, you should know this. Town should narrow down the lynch choices between a couple different people and then go from there. Otherwise you are splitting towns votes onto several different people and potentially letting mafia hammer their pick. Entropy could have easily been hammered had Crys not unvoted.
And what exactly are you doing, if you?re not hiding behind the Ares bandwagon and not even pushing for your person that you said you originally suspected the most??? That last line is BEYOND contradicting, because you would not even give an opinion about who you would shoot and you are not even pushing for someone that you believe is scum.
If Ashtot is scum, Entropy and Tom are both town
If Tom is scum, Ashtot is scum and Entropy is town
If Entropy is scum, Tom and Ashtot are town
I am pretty confident tom is town tho
my only issue is that Tom has been half and half supporting Ashtot's thoughts, so whichever flips scum first will effect the other's role in my opinion. but Tom's meta is matching his town very nicely and I doubt both Tom and Ash would be this loud together Night 1
I swear to god it is more often scum than town that uses the ?Either X or Y is scum. If one is town the other is scum, so it depends on which flips what.? It?s basically intelligent version of fillering, because you are not actually supporting what you are saying besides the fact that you think two people are suspicious without having to actually give reasoning or cases why you think this is true.
Also, there was absolutely NO reason to townread Tom at that point. I have no idea where you came to this conclusion, and if it?s simply because he doesn?t match what you consider his scum meta without taking anything else he previously said in the thread into account then you are basically admitting to cherry picking.
No, but I'm being generous. You are acting extremely scummy.
No, but because entropy isn't scum I have a really hard time seeing how both Tom and Ashtot could be town. Keep in mind that was before I learned Tom was 3rd party so those 3 theories were basically nulled.
Also I don't get where you got the "I dropped suspicion on Tardis" from because I still think he is scum. Explain to me why I shouldn't think he's scum? Did I miss something?
It is fine that you think Tardis is scum, but if you genuinely believe that then why are you not pushing them? Or making a case on them for D2?s lynch? Or if you feel like there is not enough to go on, why aren?t you asking them questions so that you can use it in a case? Because from my point of view, you don?t want to post case now because you do not want to appear scummy in case it is not a solid case or in case you are wrong. But in your words, ?If you are town you have nothing to hide?.
Also thank you.
CONCLUSION: I do not understand the motivation behind a lot of Jacob?s posts and I also am just not comfortable with his general behavior: I do not get why he?s acting in ways that he knows are not in town?s favor. Holding off posting cases during D1, mentioning that voting ?No Lynch? is an option,
Ashtot
I am trying to figure out if you are actually horribly obvious scum or if you are just horrible in general.
I do not want to repeat what Entropy had already said about you so I will be brief but,
It's your typical nonchalant speaking as if what you're saying is fact and it's purpose is finding scum so you're most likely green with a slight chance of third party.
Correct me if there is some invisible post that is hidden to everyone where Entropy made a contradiction, but I thought you stated previously that you weren?t trolling this game
Also, learn how to post direct image links, scrub.
Continues to straw-man.
This is the most AMAZING line I have ever seen. Like it is truly incredible how ****ty it is, regardless of your alignment you are playing beyond bad.
Part of playing Mafia is backing up your accusations, otherwise you're wasting everyone's time (unless you're me who can know who is scum because he's a wizard).
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You know Mafia is not science right? You reacted to what I said. It's simply confirmed my suspicions of you. It's okay if you don't understand, it just means you've been beaten.
Well tbh I was just completely bs'ing everything I said earlier to see what she would do, hehe.
She was just bad Town in the end.
I definitely thought she was red, but I was wrong. I'm not amazing at reads like DOLBY WHO PROBABLY IS SCUM CONSIDERING TWO BLUES DIED.
At this point, Tom shouldn't be lynched because he is an asset to Town, plus he's been of the most benefit to Town this whole game, even though he's third party, which is pretty sad.
"Well tbh I just wanted to side with Tom so if Entropy did not die I could set up a D2 lynch for her, hehe.?
How can someone lynch scum D1 and you can draw the conclusion that they are bad town is absolutely dumbfounding. Like it is painfully obvious how blatantly scum you are acting, it reminds me of Heyden last game. Could scum ACTUALLY be so bad? I mean, either way your play is poor, but what I mean is, you are scummy to the point where I cannot fathom the idea that scum would play so terribly.
Creating discussion, having similar reads as me, and generally behaving pro-Town. I mean I just personally agree with the stuff he says so I'm biased. If I'm going to be honest, he hasn't done that much, it's just that others have done so little. There are some people on here at least creating discussion but they're mostly just crazy.
Yes thank you Ashtot, bless your soul. You need to tell people to add to the discussion as much as you are. You need to tell people how much that they are not doing, and hopefully they follow your example of you doing so much towards scum hunting. Praise.
I don't have a power complex and I don't even think I'm good. I'm literally terrible at Mafia and I'm not hiding behind Tom. Idk what you expect. I can still point out People's flaws if I suck.
At least you admitted to it. I genuinely cannot wrap my head around why someone would act like these even if they ARE scum, so I looked into one of his games when he was town- ?Game of Thrones? Mafia.
Here is a compilation of his posts that seem all too familiar.
ive played a crap ton of this and you havent even read back on my games before you started playing, most people in this game know this of course, but you noobs are on your high horse thinking you are geniuses and know how people work when in reality you have no clue
N e s s, your posts are somewhat lengthy without actually saying anything important. It seems like you're trying to appear productive and insightful without actually doing anything. You also raised quotes which are obvious sarcasm or are just irrelevant.
Do you have a reason behind this?
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Also Kit, I'd love for you to explain (with actual reasoning) why you think Tom is scum.
To be fair, I told you why I think you're scum and Endless backed me up later as well. I'm not stupid. Yes, I've been really bored with the last dozen games because they've been small, filled with noobs, and some have been poorly run, but I'm actually decent at this. You're right that I shouldn't be cleared, by I have given Town tells this far into the game in a few places. The only thing scummy about my behaviour so far hasn't been shown, but I do support inactive lynches.
Also m3ow, your latest posts have shown that since you've been caught, you're backpedaling, attempting to sound like you've cooled off and want to help Town, while discretely trying to shift attention from yourself to me (once again). There is no reason to believe that I'm scum other than "Ashtot might be scum", and I've contributed more than you at this point. All of your arguments are basically dead at this point, and you're going to need to do something of worth in order to live.
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Of course it is also possible that you just really suck at being Town (that would be unfortunate).
Also I'm not sure where all the stupid votes are coming from. Kit is a decent candidate but I'm leaning a bit more towards them being stupid Town than scum, but I guess we'll see. The only lynches I'm okay with at this point are Kit, m3ow, and Dolby (because as some people found out last game, he's a huge threat).
This is half and half- but what I did take note of is the bit about Dolby.
CONCLUSION: Yeah you?re bad no matter what alignment you are and the only thing holding me back is that your terrible play seems to be consistent from other games.
Mother of all Llamas
Why?do you even play?. I have only been here for a couple games and you already frustrate the hell out of me.
I am going to vote Area based on his scummy behaviour. I have read back and his posts just stick out to me. His RQS he seemed very over confident and I feel like it was more forced. Also to backup would be his backlash on Crys so quickly... Unless something comes up I'll be placing my vote on him
Sheeping the bandwagon using awkwardly phrased excuses. How was it forced if it was over confident? If something is over-confident then that means they had too much confidence in what they were saying but how would that be forced at the same time? It?s entirely contradicting.
This one is the one where you can I guess make a reach and say that this is something of value. ?I guess I?ll read? I mean. That is entirely the point of the game so I mean, good for you. Avoids the question of choosing to shoot someone.
It's been a bit the same with me in Aron's case, but not completely. Just been a bit busy to read through some posts or post myself, or know what to post.
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in other words: soz for not posting , stil a noob to mafia
I understand that you are new, but you still need to try. Even just asking questions shows that you are putting in effort in and attempting to play the game. It is not like it is expected of you to know exactly what to post, but when you do not post anything of value yet still continue to post the only explanation I can draw is that you know that you need to say something so people do not suspect you but
I voted Ares since he just seemed the most suspicious, and didn't wanna be pressured for my reasoning of voting who I was gonna vote, that is before I read through, which was gonna be Tardis. Ares' inactivity and overconfidence just seemed to stick out to mee from the rest, so anothet vote for Ares
So in a nutshell, you voted him because you did not want to be pressured for voting someone else based on your reasoning. Do you not realize how detrimental this behavior is if you are town?? That?s not even the worst part of this post?.
HOW DID YOU GUYS MISS THIS? Xerolin?s previous post was saying ?hey guys finally just finished reading through, placing my sheep vote on Ares? and then they follow up by saying ?I voted Ares but that was before I read through, I was going to place my vote for Tardis.?
Why are you lying about reading if you?re town? I mean, it is fine if you have not read the thread. But why are you voting if you have not read??
CONCLUSION: I understand that you are new, but I genuinely do not get why you lied about not reading the thread and why you feel the need to filler throughout the thread. It is fine to not know what you are saying but if you are town you need to either give your opinions on people and say why, even if you are not confident in your read.
Taesaek
Cory
*I will come back to these two. Reading the thread and then ISO?ing everyones posts took a LOT longer than I expected it too, but I will post my reads on them both along with an analysis on my null reads as well later tonight.
Null:
I will expand on these reads. But not right now, I am tired of typing on my ****ty laptop.
Dolby
Hayden
Tina
Alexi
Leaning town:
Ask if you would like me to expand on these reads.
@ xine although i agree that xerolin's not contributed at all, i don't want to waste a lynch on her, i'd much rather her get mod killed for a lack of playing than waste a lynch on her when i really think ash is scum.
