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Finally, some reads. (Hopefully more coherent than my last ones.)
EnderWiggin
You posts, much like Dad's, scare the crap out of me because they're so calm & generally well thought-out and organized. I can never tell if you're scum or not.
Anyways, attempting to see past that: Nothing since D1 that you've posted has thrown up flags for me. The whole You/Endless/Slammint thing made me suspicious for a bit, but since you've explained your reasoning for that and Slammint flipped red, I think it's more evidence that you're town than anything else. Other than that, eh. Don't really have a whole lot to say about you (at least that I can think of right now).
SarasaKat
From what I can see, you've been asking tons and tons of questions, making it look like you're helpful town trying to gather evidence, but offering little information in return. On top of that, a fair few of your posts are only defending yourself or imparting mafia wisdom/rules. But you have a few good read posts & one in particular where you mention that the mafia team is probably an experienced played coupled with a new player. While I agree with you that this is likely, I also don't want to take this as word and ignore my suspicions on the newer people or mislynch a bunch of town and I feel like you're trying to establish it as law when that's not the case. If you manage to lynch both Ender & I, mafia will likely win as it'll be two new members v.s. you (that assuming there's no other KP - if there is mafia will likely win even sooner). Basically volunteering yourself to be lynched also threw up major red flags for me - trying to be a martyr to make yourself look town just makes you look scummier in my opinion.
Also, the thing with Trojan. Maybe it's just because I never really saw the scumminess in them in the first place, but the sheer amount you pushed on them with the 'practically confirmed mafian' stuff is another red flag to me.
Went back & looked at meme mafia more closely and the resemblance isn't as strong as I thought it was, so that point's not really relevant.
Honestly, the final straw was your last post about me - knowing you outside of mafia, it kind of threw me for a loop that you'd say something like that. The only way it makes sense in my brain is if you're getting salty over something (i.e. mafia getting lynched). But obviously that point is pretty biased.
Overall, I realize my points aren't the strongest, but in the end, you're the person I'm most suspicious of so I'm voting for you.
Trojan
Strong town-read since no one's CC'd (counter-claimed) them for the vigilante role. Also, looking back at their posts, they line up quite nicely - asked how to use a role before the PM to Rune asking how to submit kills (which, while weird, wouldn't make sense if they were mafia - wouldn't they just ask their scum pal(s)?) and suspected Kat & Slammint D1.
Panda1376
Town-read. I'm actually really impressed with them so far. They've been posting frequently and while their ideas aren't always fully explained and a bit all over the map, they're fairly solid and they've been asking good questions.
Call me Daniel
Honestly can't get a good read on them, mostly because they've given nothing but gut feels. First of all, you couldn't explain why you thought Kat was scum, it was just a feeling. You didn't vote for Kat D1 based on this, which is a good sign, but you also didn't vote at all, which screams avoidance. Appreciated your opinion post - a bit weak and again, based more on feelings than on evidence, but I liked the effort nonetheless. Then you went on to answer Kat's questions in the same way. "They don't seem like the kind of person to do _____.... they seem like they have experience..." What I really want to see from you is updated reads with evidence to back up your gut feels.
Another word of advice - saying stuff like this:
Bloobloop
Has only posted twice, both times in response to my question about lynching Kat that didn't give a whole lot of information. Interestingly enough, though, they voted for Kat again today without any explanation. Null, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if they're a mafian who has no clue what to do now that they've lost their partner, so they're lying low and following the bandwagon.
Edit before posting: Welp, then they posted this:
Not sure how I feel about whether or not there is a third party. On the one hand, it's alluded to in the OP and it would balance out the town-sidedness a bit, on the other hand, if there is an SK or something of the like, unless a kill was doubled-up last night, they didn't send in their kill.
Hopefully that also answers any questions I was asked yesterday - If not, just ask again and I?ll answer.
EnderWiggin
You posts, much like Dad's, scare the crap out of me because they're so calm & generally well thought-out and organized. I can never tell if you're scum or not.
Anyways, attempting to see past that: Nothing since D1 that you've posted has thrown up flags for me. The whole You/Endless/Slammint thing made me suspicious for a bit, but since you've explained your reasoning for that and Slammint flipped red, I think it's more evidence that you're town than anything else. Other than that, eh. Don't really have a whole lot to say about you (at least that I can think of right now).
SarasaKat
From what I can see, you've been asking tons and tons of questions, making it look like you're helpful town trying to gather evidence, but offering little information in return. On top of that, a fair few of your posts are only defending yourself or imparting mafia wisdom/rules. But you have a few good read posts & one in particular where you mention that the mafia team is probably an experienced played coupled with a new player. While I agree with you that this is likely, I also don't want to take this as word and ignore my suspicions on the newer people or mislynch a bunch of town and I feel like you're trying to establish it as law when that's not the case. If you manage to lynch both Ender & I, mafia will likely win as it'll be two new members v.s. you (that assuming there's no other KP - if there is mafia will likely win even sooner). Basically volunteering yourself to be lynched also threw up major red flags for me - trying to be a martyr to make yourself look town just makes you look scummier in my opinion.
Also, the thing with Trojan. Maybe it's just because I never really saw the scumminess in them in the first place, but the sheer amount you pushed on them with the 'practically confirmed mafian' stuff is another red flag to me.
Went back & looked at meme mafia more closely and the resemblance isn't as strong as I thought it was, so that point's not really relevant.
Honestly, the final straw was your last post about me - knowing you outside of mafia, it kind of threw me for a loop that you'd say something like that.
The only way it makes sense in my brain is if you're getting salty over something (i.e. mafia getting lynched). But obviously that point is pretty biased.Overall, I realize my points aren't the strongest, but in the end, you're the person I'm most suspicious of so I'm voting for you.
Trojan
Strong town-read since no one's CC'd (counter-claimed) them for the vigilante role. Also, looking back at their posts, they line up quite nicely - asked how to use a role before the PM to Rune asking how to submit kills (which, while weird, wouldn't make sense if they were mafia - wouldn't they just ask their scum pal(s)?) and suspected Kat & Slammint D1.
Panda1376
Town-read. I'm actually really impressed with them so far. They've been posting frequently and while their ideas aren't always fully explained and a bit all over the map, they're fairly solid and they've been asking good questions.
Call me Daniel
Honestly can't get a good read on them, mostly because they've given nothing but gut feels. First of all, you couldn't explain why you thought Kat was scum, it was just a feeling. You didn't vote for Kat D1 based on this, which is a good sign, but you also didn't vote at all, which screams avoidance. Appreciated your opinion post - a bit weak and again, based more on feelings than on evidence, but I liked the effort nonetheless. Then you went on to answer Kat's questions in the same way. "They don't seem like the kind of person to do _____.... they seem like they have experience..." What I really want to see from you is updated reads with evidence to back up your gut feels.
Another word of advice - saying stuff like this:
Is generally a huge no-no. I get that it's a joke, but when people don't know your play-style yet, and also take the game seriously, it's easy to misinterpret.woaahhhh I'm not mafia! Or am I
Bloobloop
Has only posted twice, both times in response to my question about lynching Kat that didn't give a whole lot of information. Interestingly enough, though, they voted for Kat again today without any explanation. Null, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if they're a mafian who has no clue what to do now that they've lost their partner, so they're lying low and following the bandwagon.
Edit before posting: Welp, then they posted this:
Um, yeah, that's bad. You want people to think you're town. Having people questioning your role is definitely not a good thing. Now I'm thinking you're a third party or something.Is it bad that I love that no one can tell who I am?
Not sure how I feel about whether or not there is a third party. On the one hand, it's alluded to in the OP and it would balance out the town-sidedness a bit, on the other hand, if there is an SK or something of the like, unless a kill was doubled-up last night, they didn't send in their kill.
Hopefully that also answers any questions I was asked yesterday - If not, just ask again and I?ll answer.
