2020 Democratic Primary Election
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PunchyTheCat
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I definitely think Beto O'Rourke would be a good addition to this poll (and who I would vote for if I was old enough)
He's not running. I only included candidates who announced their campaigns.
nintendofan85
Good grief.
Truthfully, I really don't know yet. I voted for Cory Booker in the poll because he seems like a good choice IMO, but despite the fact that there are already so many candidates, more could begin running in the future.
I really want Beto O'Rourke to run, but as the OP said, he hasn't announced any sort of campaign yet.
I really want Beto O'Rourke to run, but as the OP said, he hasn't announced any sort of campaign yet.
this first person to run on a platform of "indict and prosecute all requisite people of the past 50 years that have been involved in the government for war crimes" will gain my full support
Reginald Fairfield
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I'm still not convinced socialism is a good thing.
EpicGamer12
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How 'social' do USA's social programs need to be before they're considered socialist policies? Many programs already exist that could be considered socialist. When it comes down to what is important, I think poor and underprivileged families not being able to get medical service they need is up there. Most hard leaning conservatives agree that socialized medicine as it stands is a good thing (including Trump).
Lmao Scandinavia, New Zealand, and Denmark are doing great. But conservatives will always be like "b-but Venezuela", without considering the fallacies of failing to distinguish say Cuba or Venuzuela with a Democratic Socialist model. Even most Latin American countries have universal healthcare systems. And when you see people working 40-50 hrs a week and barely making ends meet in the US, theres clearly an issue. When college is downright unaffordable without taking out loans that will burden you for 10-20 years and stop graduayes from actually starting businesses, buying houses, investing, and moving up the social ladder theres a problem. When oil, pharmaceutical, and telecommunications companies offer fat campaign donations to politicians who do their bidding and buy our elections theres a problem. Net neutrality is no longer here, global warming is still a joke to the US, and we have a massive opioid epidemic thanks to capitalism from said industries. The industries profit immensely off buying politicians and making Americans rely on them so heavily.
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And people will ask "how will we pay for it", we have the largest military in the world and account for over 50 percent of all military spending, but people never question that because US is apparently the chosen one who must intervene in every little conflict across the world under the banner of "terrorism bad, dictatorship...bad". Meanwhile we fund Saudi Arabia who funds terrorism and funded the famine and blockade in Yemen. Yet we care so much about the humanitarian crisis in Syria, but not Yemen because that would anger Daddy Saudi Arabia! These wars are waged in the best interest of the contracting companies, not in the interest of the populace.
We have all these wars because Boeing and other military industrial complex giants donate to warhawk politicians who will push their agenda so that they will make more profits.
This is only the tip of the iceberg but yeah, socialism is definitely a good thing.
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Antonio
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Oh, well idk anything about socialism but bernie is ****ing sexy so ya know, he has my vote and all.
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Imbri
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I haven't made a decision yet, but I voted for Amy Klobuchar in the poll. Elizabeth Warren is my senator, but I think she can do more good there.
Sanders isn't a Democrat, so he shouldn't be on the list. If he wants to run, let him do it as an Independent.
Sanders isn't a Democrat, so he shouldn't be on the list. If he wants to run, let him do it as an Independent.
I haven't made a decision yet. I want to see how their campaigns play out. I want to take time to google each of them and see what they've voted on in the past.
I decided to vote for "Snoflake libtardz lol" in your poll. The name made me laugh so I couldn't help myself. ?\_(ツ)_/?
I decided to vote for "Snoflake libtardz lol" in your poll. The name made me laugh so I couldn't help myself. ?\_(ツ)_/?
For me personally, as someone who has taken a neutral approach on party lines and political ideologies (I would call myself a Libertarian), I honestly think the ideologies these candidates follow have flaws that I think can have long term damage to the U.S. if they are implemented (like Socialism and uncontrolled illegal immigration/lack of border security) and I also think these candidates are corrupt to some degree like Elizabeth Warren, for example, who has fraudulently claimed Native American heritage for professional gain when she didn't have such heritage (I think for that reason alone, I think she should be disqualified if the Democrats hope to win the White House in 2020 because who knows what else she has done that we don't know about yet). I'm not saying Trump is perfect either (even though I voted for him because I chose what I believed to be the best of the 2 evils at the time [Hillary had way too much questionable things in her history {along with her husband who would have been back in the White House again if she had won} including what I believe is treason like Uranium One and inaction during the Benghazi attacks]), I think all ideological sides of the government are wrong to some degree and what the United States really needs is more moderate leaders and the return of common sense. We need to be taking care of our people first if we hope to be a nation generations from now. Heck, I would vote Democrat if I felt the candidate was moderate and within reason. I definitely would recommend everyone who is voting Democrat to be very careful who you are voting for because there are a lot of people attempting to run that are not qualified for the office of POTUS in my opinion.
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Oh youre one of those. Do parties really matter that much to you? He's running for the Democratic primary, he caucuses with the democrats. Therefore hes on the list.
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Warren has literally been fighting corruption for years...she introduced consumer protection laws and has fought against Wall Street and big donors and lobbyists who buy politicians.
I cant lie though. The whole "im 1/267th cherokee!" is a turnoff. It seems like shes been misinformed of her family history if anything, but yeah shes white. Not the worst candidate but far from the best.
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Even though she definitely champions such causes, sometimes people fight the very thing they partake in to cover their tracks so no one suspects them which is why us voters must be vigilant of being informed (which is quite clever when you think about, but it definitely is immoral indisputably). If being uninformed is the reason, that would be more than her own fault (her own family would be guilty as well) which could plead her innocence and makes the situation quite tragic politically, but I wouldn't be surprised of the contrary either which could say a lot about someone years later. Whether innocent or guilty, I do think this should still disqualify her because she did something immoral intentionally or unintentionally at the time of said actions. Due to this state of affairs, she has brought her trustworthiness to question with the public which is something you do not need when you are the POTUS.
Even though Warren is not my primary focus of the following statement/viewpoint of mine, I really do think you can learn a lot about someone just by how they handle power. People who treat their power with good intentions bring freedom & prosperity for the mass populous while people who do the contrary bring tyranny and poverty to the people. This why we must all be very careful who we allow into power and not allow ourselves to be deceived. Even though I didn't agree with Obama on certain things, he did say one thing that is very true in the context of my contribution of this thread: "Elections have consequences."
I'll be just shy of eighteen come the 2020 elections as I'm turning sixteen this May, but if I could, Bernie would definitely have my vote. My boyfriend is pretty convinced that's who he's going to vote for as long as his campaign is good. It'll be a close call with whoever wins, but I'm really hoping Trump doesn't get any more time in office, even though there's a good chance he will /: His recent lies and how his supporters believe absolutely anything he says has been driving me insane.
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Would you prefer him to run independently and almost certainly split the vote enough to guarantee a Trump victory? I understand the thought process behind it, but wishing for him to run independently instead seems to be asking for a more unpreferable outcome.
lmao, and here I was honestly expecting justin had to intervene in some drama
not point out the blatantly obvious
not point out the blatantly obvious
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
I think you are being a bit selective with your judgment here. Warren lied about one thing, and you think she should be disqualified? All presidents and nominees have lied - most of them about topics way more serious than their heritage. Warren misled people about something that has literally no effect on their day to day lives. Trump lies commonly - and often about thing that actually matter. He makes your entire country look like a joke.
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