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This sounds so fake. You could have unvoted and then voted him back if you want. You had so much time to think about it. Not buying it.

I know that now, and I realise how big my mistake was, so I don't expect anyone to buy it. If i were someone else I'd be scumreading myself 100% right now, but honestly it wasn't intentional at all
 
It's night and since the doctor is dead mafia will have a wonderful time deciding who to kill. My current suspicions are on Hiyori, Curry and Fleshybro (from most sus to least sus) :>

I'll probably make a case or not by the end of night depending on what I can find.
 
hiyori said:
@curry - don't know what binding of Isaac mafia is, Korean War was canceled really fast, and I think I died N1 somewhere. Don't rly remember tho. the way seroja said it made it seem like I was some sort of mafia overlord so I said I wasn't that experienced, which i don't think I am that good.
And I'm sure nightmares isn't scum because in double cop I was mafia and I went through her posts A LOT so I could twist things to make her seem scummy. that's how I'm sure.

my post there actually wasn't forced at all, I think this might be the second time you've misinterpreted what I said, like I remember in one game you thought I was really mad when I wasn't lol.

sure I'll tell you why I'm scumleaning you, although I only (clearly) remember playing you in one game? I've got til the end of night to do so but rn I have to walk my cousins dog and hang out w her since she got back from work.
-Binding of Isaac was meant to say Tarot, I got the games mixed up, my bad. You died N1 in Trump but that doesn't mean you didn't play. You were a very active member of the conversation until you died in Trump. We've played together in both Trump and AoT.

-So? Because Nightmares sounds the same that immediately means she's town? I hate this whole idea people use of "I'm sounding like/not sounding like x game I was in, therefore I am y role." Both people who have used that excuse against me when I brought up a case against them turned out to be mafia. :) Alexi in AoT and Panda in Trump. They both told me I had no base and the point that they were sounding just like they played in x game where they were town. This is one of the biggest reasons I scum read people is when they use excuses like that.

-How can I misinterpret you saying that? lol It's pretty easy to see and it sounds way forced, like fake concern. The post you're referring to where I misunderstood you was in AoT, when you claimed VT in white text and Tardis pointed it out and then you called him out for it. I didn't misinterpret you, I made a guess on how claiming VT could possibly help you so early in the game should you get sus'd down the line. My post and your post in order:
ClamEatsCurry said:
I was looking on page 8 for it (40 posts a page) because I thought it all happened last night so that's my fault (it's on 9). To respond to that specifically though:
Tbh I think doing it in white text was the scummiest thing to people. I think there would've been a different reaction (one where people weren't so sus of you) if you had done it outright. But the way you did it in white text and got angry with Tardis for pointing it out seems weird when you wanted the claim to help you. If you wanted to claim so that it would help you in the long run, why white text it? I don't see why if you're claiming VT and you want it to help you why you'd hide it behind white text. Had Tardis not pointed it out and it stayed quiet, say you got sus'd day 3, would you refer to it and be like "I claimed here on day 1 in white text." That would probably hurt you more than it does right now if so. There's other ways to soft claim than saying your role in white text if you were going for a soft claim.
Shiida said:
i didnt get angry with tardis. if i look mad to u im probably not. i dont really get mad over stuff like this, my posts just sound expressive/over the top sometimes.
i white texted it so not too many people would notice it and hoped no one would point it out.
and no, the way it might help me is definitely not that. thats not what i was thinking at all. it was mainly for going back to the way people responded to me later on. sorry i didnt see ur post.
I may have misunderstood tone, but the whole thing wasn't a misunderstanding.

I shall await your response on how you're calling me scum when you did the same thing in AoT and guess what? I was town who started a lynch on one of the two final mafia.

Liamslash said:
I already said that I was having a bad day so please stop using the hunter vote as anything, even a note.
I feel like you have no point, because I'm new and I feel strongly about not voting NL and trying to do my best for town isn't scummy. Here I am really helping town and trying to do things to my hardest to win, and you think I'm scum. If you have the same opinion as some of the stuff I'm saying, I'm sure on that. I town read Seroja because her reads were similar to what I was thinking and saying, obviously that's going to be a town read.
Look, I'm sorry you had a bad day, I really am and if you'd like to talk about it in private, I'm here for you. That said, just because you had a bad day doesn't mean you won't be held accountable for your actions. It is perfectly legitimate to bring up your vote on Hunter, and if the need arises, I will do so again. Anything you do or say in a court of mafia can and will be used against you, just keep that in mind.

Sorry but I don't have "no point" just because you are new. I was still learning in my second game (and honestly, I still am learning), but that didn't just give me a shield because I was new. I find voting for NL scummy, but voting a lynch doesn't just make you town. It's a good sign but just because you're advocating a lynch doesn't mean it's great and you're clear. Mafia can lead a mislynch, just like how I'm certain one of the voters for Tardis are scum. Votes are very important information, hence why your Hunter vote was mentioned. You say you feel very strongly against voting no lynch but here
Liamslash said:
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING THEN
Might as well vote a no lynch even though I'm against it.
While it is true that you never actually voted no lynch, if you felt as strongly as you seem to imply, you wouldn't have even given this idea a consideration. Notice that the difference between you and I is that I've said from the beginning that no lynch is not an option and never strayed away from the idea. You say you don't want to bandwagon but this quote implies you're willing to jump on a bandwagon possibly if your vote is a losing battle.

Mafia has to try and "help town" too so that they blend in with them to not be suspicious. You trying so hard to seem pro-town is what is suspicious. You seem to want to agree with everyone but when someone doubts you you start to rethink yourself. If you have an opinion, stick to it. Don't try and please everyone just because you don't want to make people mad. Arguments and cases are what the entirety of mafia is based off of.



My reads got all thrown around with Tardis getting lynched as the actual Doc. Tardis was hell bent on getting Tom lynched in Xenoblade, I wish I had fully townread him so I could've drilled that more. There is scum between hiyori, Discord, and FleshyBro. I think Liam is the other.
 
Look, I'm sorry you had a bad day, I really am and if you'd like to talk about it in private, I'm here for you. That said, just because you had a bad day doesn't mean you won't be held accountable for your actions. It is perfectly legitimate to bring up your vote on Hunter, and if the need arises, I will do so again. Anything you do or say in a court of mafia can and will be used against you, just keep that in mind.

Sorry but I don't have "no point" just because you are new. I was still learning in my second game (and honestly, I still am learning), but that didn't just give me a shield because I was new. I find voting for NL scummy, but voting a lynch doesn't just make you town. It's a good sign but just because you're advocating a lynch doesn't mean it's great and you're clear. Mafia can lead a mislynch, just like how I'm certain one of the voters for Tardis are scum. Votes are very important information, hence why your Hunter vote was mentioned. You say you feel very strongly against voting no lynch but here

While it is true that you never actually voted no lynch, if you felt as strongly as you seem to imply, you wouldn't have even given this idea a consideration. Notice that the difference between you and I is that I've said from the beginning that no lynch is not an option and never strayed away from the idea. You say you don't want to bandwagon but this quote implies you're willing to jump on a bandwagon possibly if your vote is a losing battle.

Mafia has to try and "help town" too so that they blend in with them to not be suspicious. You trying so hard to seem pro-town is what is suspicious. You seem to want to agree with everyone but when someone doubts you you start to rethink yourself. If you have an opinion, stick to it. Don't try and please everyone just because you don't want to make people mad. Arguments and cases are what the entirety of mafia is based off of.
I feel like that hunter thing isn't right because I wasn't acting myself but it doesn't matter.. I was saying that as "It's the same thing" with that NL, not that they should vote NL. I think you misunderstood it. I never doubted myself, not once. Look at my reads, I was one of the first to form opinions and I'm agreeing with people with the same opinion.
Yes, I am being as town as I can because I want to help town as much as I can, and it hurts me in a way to see that I try and help town as much as I can but come off as scummy.
 
I feel like that hunter thing isn't right because I wasn't acting myself but it doesn't matter.. I was saying that as "It's the same thing" with that NL, not that they should vote NL. I think you misunderstood it. I never doubted myself, not once. Look at my reads, I was one of the first to form opinions and I'm agreeing with people with the same opinion.
Yes, I am being as town as I can because I want to help town as much as I can, and it hurts me in a way to see that I try and help town as much as I can but come off as scummy.

It's okay, Kirby was lynched for looking scummy but he's the doc. If you're really town, mafia will look for any reason to make you look scummy and push a lynch on you. Make sure to defend yourself properly if that happens.
 
After the grand mistake of lynching the doctor (sorry again for that, honestly I don't know what I was thinking..) I've changed my thoughts on quite a few players. Seroja and Nightmares are really the only ones I see as definitely town at the moment. I'll be out for most of the day but I'll write up when I get back.
 
After the grand mistake of lynching the doctor (sorry again for that, honestly I don't know what I was thinking..) I've changed my thoughts on quite a few players. Seroja and Nightmares are really the only ones I see as definitely town at the moment. I'll be out for most of the day but I'll write up when I get back.

This screams "I'm scum, lynch these two when I'm dead". I have no idea what.
 
I mean that you want us to lynch one of them when you flip. Trying to make them look scummy.

Wait how is Fleshy saying we're town, making us come across as scummy

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FleshyBro: Gahh well...At first I felt quite confident that they were town; they were posting a lot of detailed and helpful posts, and I agreed with what they were saying for the most part. They were sus of Tardis, and talked about his lynch on me, like I did). Thing is, not so sure after Tardis claimed, and Fleshy kept their vote on him. I had to go to bed like right when Tardis claimed, so I can understand a bit more from my point of view, but I know Fleshy was up to like 2:30am (GMT) or something, giving them a lot more time to consider Tardis' claim and stuff. But still, I felt sus of Tardis even after I woke up, so I'd feel bad acting like a bit of a hypocrite, and saying they're scummy because of this mislynch. I'll have a look at their posts a bit more...

- - - Post Merge - - -

OOPS NO DIDN'T MEAN TO POST THAT
I HADN'T CHECKED IT YET RIP
 
@curry yeah in tarot I was banned on tbt. not sure why me counting only actual full games is an issue anyway.

i think nightmares is town, that's my read on her. she's one of my confident reads and i see nothing wrong about feeling certain about it. obviously I'm still not shutting out other opinions, but I still feel that she is town.

if you think it sounded fake, I can't do anything about that. im just saying you're probably not the most reliable for correctly interpreting my tone...as shown in those quotes. the rest of which doesn't actually relate.

yeah I actually already did mention that I scumread you in one game when you were town. so I'm aware and I'll be careful. don't worry 😉
 
This screams "I'm scum, lynch these two when I'm dead". I have no idea what.

Um I fail to see the logic in this sentence?

I mean that you want us to lynch one of them when you flip. Trying to make them look scummy.

??? If he flips scum, wouldn't it be great that he gave his scum partner away? I don't get it...
 
and I didn't notice this in your post, but alexi and the other person were using that excuse to read you as /scum/ and not town (from my understanding). which is not what I'm doing. that sounds like twisting things to make me look scummy haha.
 
Wait how is Fleshy saying we're town, making us come across as scummy

- - - Post Merge - - -

FleshyBro: Gahh well...At first I felt quite confident that they were town; they were posting a lot of detailed and helpful posts, and I agreed with what they were saying for the most part. They were sus of Tardis, and talked about his lynch on me, like I did). Thing is, not so sure after Tardis claimed, and Fleshy kept their vote on him. I had to go to bed like right when Tardis claimed, so I can understand a bit more from my point of view, but I know Fleshy was up to like 2:30am (GMT) or something, giving them a lot more time to consider Tardis' claim and stuff. But still, I felt sus of Tardis even after I woke up, so I'd feel bad acting like a bit of a hypocrite, and saying they're scummy because of this mislynch. I'll have a look at their posts a bit more...

- - - Post Merge - - -

OOPS NO DIDN'T MEAN TO POST THAT
I HADN'T CHECKED IT YET RIP

So you were awake and you could change your vote but you didn't?
 
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