A Nook Miles Ticket Rant

[TortimerCrossing]

To be honest, I recently auctioned off Raymond and he sold for 950 NMT.

I do TT, but at the time I only had 30,000 nook miles. Thats only 15 tickets, so truly I don't know how people even accumulate so many (I stated this in my thread). I never imagined I would get that many for him, but what can I do get the person to pay me less when others have bid as well? I took the opportunity because now I know I have plenty of NMT to search for my remaining dreamies, and even purchase things on the forum. I do plan on having a NMT giveaway at some point though.

 

[Mello]

Tickets were a terrible idea and I hate them.

 

[Shyria]

Tbf, managing people trying to sell turnips is a lot of work, especially if people leave on their own and don't wait for boot. That means for every 8 people, you're sitting through 16 cutscenes. I think they deserve some compensation for their time. I was annoyed just being a visitor.

Yes, that's fair, but then how about regulating the flow of people? Don't accept that many people if it's a bother to you...

Plus once again, in my opinion it's the "build up" that's a problem. If you ask for me to drop one ticket to come sell my turnips, fair enough. If you ask for several, or the best bidders... That's when it starts to become silly.
But then again, everybody is free to play with the people that play the way they agree with, and don't trade with others...

I just think it's important to keep in mind that going too crazy in this could discourage people from taking part in it, and so you have less trade opportunities.

 

[Xara]

You're gonna hate to know he just went for 2,500 NMTs last night, lol.

bro i- 0-0 literally think i went through the 5 stages of grief reading that

 

[jiojiop]

Yes, that's fair, but then how about regulating the flow of people? Don't accept that many people if it's a bother to you...

Plus once again, in my opinion it's the "build up" that's a problem. If you ask for me to drop one ticket to come sell my turnips, fair enough. If you ask for several, or the best bidders... That's when it starts to become silly.
But then again, everybody is free to play with the people that play the way they agree with, and don't trade with others...

I just think it's important to keep in mind that going too crazy in this could discourage people from taking part in it, and so you have less trade opportunities.

I think many people feel obligated to try to get in as many people as who jump at the opportunity because no-one likes disappointing others. Some have a really hard time saying "no" to people.

I will pay 1 NMT to visit other people's islands for diys from their villagers. I think that's fair cuz I would spend 1 NMT to go to a random island. I have no intention of buying villagers - which was ALWAYS a crazy market – so that part of the economy doesn't affect me.

For all the people who have a problem with the NMT economy: be the change you want to see in the forums! Give away your villagers for free. Open up your town for buying/selling for tips only. Start the culture you want to have!

 

[Khaelis]

Tickets were a terrible idea and I hate them.

Their purpose and use in the game is perfectly fine.

But what the community has turned them into? Awful idea indeed. They honestly have no value. They literally send you to a random island with a little bit of resources and a villager if you're able to. That's it. You can't hand them in for Bells or anything.

But do you know what has value? Bells. Yes, they are more difficult to get in large amounts, but do things need to be excessively expensive? No, they don't. Things don't need to be expensive to show huge value. But because of the duplication glitch, Bells no longer hold value to a lot of players because we can't tell what was legitimately obtained or not. So the community looked for the next best thing, and that was sadly Tickets, because people found value in them somehow.

It really sucks. Why do I have to grind out mundane tasks over and over for hours on end just to get villager I may want directly from another person? Why can't I just give you the 3 million Bells I have in my ADB that I got from Turnips??? It makes no sense...


Before TBT forum currency was disabled, I was trying to buy visits to islands to purchase seed bags from their Tom Nooks. I felt my offers were reasonable, and let people haggle with me if desired. My thread was practically ignored by most people, likely because I wasn't offering Tickets!

 

[Jared:3]

I think many people feel obligated to try to get in as many people as who jump at the opportunity because no-one likes disappointing others. Some have a really hard time saying "no" to people.

I will pay 1 NMT to visit other people's islands for diys from their villagers. I think that's fair cuz I would spend 1 NMT to go to a random island. I have no intention of buying villagers - which was ALWAYS a crazy market – so that part of the economy doesn't affect me.

For all the people who have a problem with the NMT economy: be the change you want to see in the forums! Give away your villagers for free. Open up your town for buying/selling for tips only. Start the culture you want to have!

I think you misunderstood my post, while I do agree that some compensation is nice for selling your turnips like a tip or even 1 NMT isn't terrible, I mean just some people want like 3 or 4 NMT for a simple trip to sell turnips which is a bit outrageous considering how much NMT are valuable and almost essential for finding a villager you want in your town. Also to tell people to giveaway a villager that is popular isn't going to happen anytime soon, many are going to sell their villagers to make a profit that is how this works here on TBT...

 

[Shyria]

I will pay 1 NMT to visit other people's islands for diys from their villagers. I think that's fair cuz I would spend 1 NMT to go to a random island.

Uh, I guess I didn't see it that way. That's a very fair point! I guess when you're not visiting for actual trading with the other player then it makes sense.
Although it would be nice to resort to other things (fruits, diy, whatever floats your boat) first. But yes, in that sense, I entirely agree with your last statement!

 

[SheepMareep]

Their purpose and use in the game is perfectly fine.

But what the community has turned them into? Awful idea indeed. They honestly have no value. They literally send you to a random island with a little bit of resources and a villager if you're able to. That's it. You can't hand them in for Bells or anything.

But do you know what has value? Bells. Yes, they are more difficult to get in large amounts, but do things need to be excessively expensive? No, they don't. Things don't need to be expensive to show huge value. But because of the duplication glitch, Bells no longer hold value to a lot of players because we can't tell what was legitimately obtained or not. So the community looked for the next best thing, and that was sadly Tickets, because people found value in them somehow.

It really sucks. Why do I have to grind out mundane tasks over and over for hours on end just to get villager I may want directly from another person? Why can't I just give you the 3 million Bells I have in my ADB that I got from Turnips??? It makes no sense...

It's ridiculous. I see so many people complaining that their islands sucked for the day and I.... What are you going there for???
The islands are meant for you to be able to get extra resources not to cycle through villagers until you find the ONE basic cat villager out of... what... 300+ options?????

And the villager trading is HORRIFYING this time around. I remember thinking 1mil for a popular villager was ridiculous but.... if people are paying 950 tickets for one villager and the current online economic value of the tickets is.... 200-300k EACH.... that's... horrifying.

The only value the game has ever put on them is the initial tent payment of 49,800 bells being transferred to 5,000 miles. Like... if a ticket is 2k miles and 5k is barely worth 50k why does anyone think the nmt value is over 20k lmao. The conversion is literally 1k miles=10k bells. if not just a bit lower.

 

[Khaelis]

For all the people who have a problem with the NMT economy: be the change you want to see in the forums! Give away your villagers for free. Open up your town for buying/selling for tips only. Start the culture you want to have!

While I do agree with this statement, there's a huge problem with it:

Once this community starts doing something, it's pretty much impossible to get them to change it. Remember when New Leaf was new, and people were selling villagers, items, etc for IGB? Once TBT gained more value, its all people wanted. I've offered many Bells for villagers, which I found to be completely reasonable, but they still wanted unreasonable amounts of TBT, and not Bells. Why? Because Bells lost value over time. But TBT had value.

I don't see this changing for New Horizons, even though I genuinely feel Tickets have no value.

 

[JKDOS]

Let's be honest, at the price NMTs sell for, you're better off earning miles and selling NMTs than playing the Stalk Market, and tipping NMT which are worth a quarter million bells.

 

[Khaelis]

It's ridiculous. I see so many people complaining that their islands sucked for the day and I.... What are you going there for???
The islands are meant for you to be able to get extra resources not to cycle through villagers until you find the ONE basic cat villager out of... what... 300+ options?????

And the villager trading is HORRIFYING this time around. I remember thinking 1mil for a popular villager was ridiculous but.... if people are paying 950 tickets for one villager and the current online economic value of the tickets is.... 200-300k EACH.... that's... horrifying.

The only value the game has ever put on them is the initial tent payment of 49,800 bells being transferred to 5,000 miles. Like... if a ticket is 2k miles and 5k is barely worth 50k why does anyone think the nmt value is over 20k lmao. The conversion is literally 1k miles=10k bells. if not just a bit lower.

Exactly, Bells are easy to obtain with some work, but still a bit harder to get in large amounts compared to New Leaf. People here literally placed a huge Bells value on Tickets, and to be honest, I think they only did so to inflate how much Bells are actually worth... which will kill the economy VERY quickly.

Like.. why Nook Tickets?? Why not Bell Vouchers? That would have been a good in-the-middle ground... wait, they stack, right? I don't remember. Going off topic a bit here..

 

[BokuNoRhythm]

I think many people feel obligated to try to get in as many people as who jump at the opportunity because no-one likes disappointing others. Some have a really hard time saying "no" to people.

I will pay 1 NMT to visit other people's islands for diys from their villagers. I think that's fair cuz I would spend 1 NMT to go to a random island. I have no intention of buying villagers - which was ALWAYS a crazy market – so that part of the economy doesn't affect me.

For all the people who have a problem with the NMT economy: be the change you want to see in the forums! Give away your villagers for free. Open up your town for buying/selling for tips only. Start the culture you want to have!

Ive given away Fauna, Skye and Audie although no one wanted Audie so she left naturally. Have also given away many items on gamefaqs, i havent sold one thing yet

 

[jiojiop]

I think you misunderstood my post, while I do agree that some compensation is nice for selling your turnips like a tip or even 1 NMT isn't terrible, I mean just some people want like 3 or 4 NMT for a simple trip to sell turnips which is a bit outrageous considering how much NMT are valuable and almost essential for finding a villager you want in your town. Also to tell people to giveaway a villager that is popular isn't going to happen anytime soon, many are going to sell their villagers to make a profit that is how this works here on TBT...

Well I honestly haven't been seeing that. Almost every listing I've seen of turnip prices ask for 1 NMT or just tips. And the person I sold to the week before with prices in 500s didn't ask for anything and was happy with flower bags, bamboo shoots, and cataloguing.

Also for NL there was a megathread where people gave away their villagers to the person next in the wait line on the list in a spreadsheet. It was great!

 

[FieryFetus]

The huge inflation in the market with these tickets is horrendous; of course I've been paying with tickets for what I want as well but that is because I had no choice but to adapt to the economy thats happening. Heck, I only want my dreamies / friend's dreamies and nothing else but its pretty frustrating to get outbidded 5x what you've offered even if the villager you're targetting for is EASILY obtained via amiibo! I could understand the new villagers being expensive as they are much harder to get but I don't understand how absurdly high Raymond can go for.

 

[Khaelis]

Honestly with how unreasonable of a price tag these tickets have been given, and how people are wanting more and more unreasonable amounts of them for services, items and villagers... I genuinely think trading in Nook Miles Tickets should be temporarily banned. Let the community try other methods, like Bell Vouchers, or just... you know.. regular IGB. Then again, if this did happen, it probably wouldn't stop 'black market' trading via PMs.

I don't think NMTs are a healthy method of trading for this game.

The huge inflation in the market with these tickets is horrendous; of course I've been paying with tickets for what I want as well but that is because I had no choice but to adapt to the economy thats happening. Heck, I only want my dreamies / friend's dreamies and nothing else but its pretty frustrating to get outbidded 5x what you've offered even if the villager you're targetting for is EASILY obtained via amiibo! I could understand the new villagers being expensive as they are much harder to get but I don't understand how absurdly high Raymond can go for.

Tell me about it. I want Skye eventually, and I definitely don't want to waste 24 hours grinding out like 50 NMTs for her. I could have potentially gotten her myself with these tickets, for crying out loud... trading with these tickets is so flawed.

 

[thelonewanderer]

I'm only charging 10 - 20 NMT for the amiibo villagers I'm cycling so I can maybe save up to buy Raymond or Judy.
It's truly ridiculous having NMT prices in the upper 100's.

And yet I get bash by others on here for not giving duper any leeway because it affect people like yourself. It doesn't affect me since I don't bother buying or trading for villagers. I'm more of a DIY person for everything when it come to AC. I gave away Marshal in NL 3 times for free. I decline someone on here wanting to help me out by giving me 1 million bells since I started NL a year after everyone else.

But yeah I hope you get Raymond or Judy. I don't know why Raymond is that popular (same with Marshal) other than he a cat with glasses. Judy on the other hand is one of my dreamy. Her eyes are like window to my soul.

 

[jiojiop]

While I do agree with this statement, there's a huge problem with it:

Once this community starts doing something, it's pretty much impossible to get them to change it. Remember when New Leaf was new, and people were selling villagers, items, etc for IGB? Once TBT gained more value, its all people wanted. I've offered many Bells for villagers, which I found to be completely reasonable, but they still wanted unreasonable amounts of TBT, and not Bells.

You'll have no luck changing others, making other people take what you want them to. But people can implement the change themselves when they are offering something. If enough people do this, it creates trends that other people want to follow, or feel so much gratitude and goodwill that they copy it.

 

[FieryFetus]

I'm only charging 10 - 20 NMT for the amiibo villagers I'm cycling so I can maybe save up to buy Raymond or Judy.
It's truly ridiculous having NMT prices in the upper 100's.

I'm totally grateful for what you do by the way; its such a fair price for villagers that can be easily obtained. I hope you get Raymond or Judy soon!

 

[N e s s]

To be honest, I recently auctioned off Raymond and he sold for 950 NMT.

I do TT, but at the time I only had 30,000 nook miles. Thats only 15 tickets, so truly I don't know how people even accumulate so many (I stated this in my thread). I never imagined I would get that many for him, but what can I do get the person to pay me less when others have bid as well? I took the opportunity because now I know I have plenty of NMT to search for my remaining dreamies, and even purchase things on the forum. I do plan on having a NMT giveaway at some point though.

Jesus christ, 950 Tickets??

People have evidently abused the duplication glitch while it was still active and it really shows in a lot of the Nook's Cranny threads. It's like... how can you expect me to buy anything in auctions when there are people like above offering nearly 1000 tickets? It's lunacy! I feel like there needs to be some kind of rule made by the mods on a cap for the tickets because no sane human could have grinded or sold enough things to get 1000 tickets this early in the game's life.