After the next update, do you think New Horizons will ever have more or the same amount of content New Leaf had?

[Brianstorm]

I really miss all the sets and lots of content New Leaf had.

I liked what I've seen of the update 2.0 but I still feel it won't match New Leaf at its peak (Welcome Amiibo)

 

[Fey]

Hmm…maybe I’m just not familiar enough with New Leaf, but from what I can see the amount of content after this update will already be fairly even. Some things are missing, others are added…it probably balances out for the most part.

 

[Dunquixote]

No clue. We’ll see when the update comes. I rather not think about it and just enjoy whatever we do get since I think thinking about that will make me think more of what else I want and as a result make me dissatisfied with what we’re getting even though this is a big update and with supposedly a lot of what we wanted (reglardless if the item was recycled and remade like the sloppy bed looks like, which I hope won’t be the case). Even though I’m excited and happy with what I saw, I still am trying to stay away from assuming or expecting anything specific since it will just lead to disappointment (like seeing the sloppy bed redone kinda had, but hopefully it will grow on me).

 

[Khaelis]

A game doesn't need to be packed to overflowing with content to be good. HHP appears to be adding quite a hefty amount of items, and 2.0 appears to be adding quite a bit as well.

It may not have a lot of items when compared to the previous title, but does that make the game bad? Not at all.

 

[Matt0106]

I think it's going to balance out! I was never one for the mini games in New Leaf; I think the only thing that would make this game truly perfect to me are the missing Nintendo Amiibo characters. I'm holding out hope that those will return in a small update in the future, but with this new update and DLC, NH is looking to fair quite well! I mean, the fact that we get permanent shops for Saharah and Redd is already a game-changer for me.

 

[Marshmallows]

I don't know, I feel like New Horizons after the update will have much more content than New Leaf. I think the only big areas that may be lacking is complete furniture sets and the minigames on Tortimer's Island.

But based on the whole, given the fact that we can terraform, place outdoor items, and now decorate homes for villagers... I think it more than makes up for it. I'm disappointed I saw nothing of the sweets and princess furniture, and think they could have added many more sets to the game, but I can live without them.

One way to look at it is this isn't New Leaf 2.0. Some things were sacrificed and emphasis put on other things.

 

[Rosch]

Hmmm... it's hard to judge yet because we still don't have the master list of everything that is included with the update.

But anyway, the Happy Home Paradise can be a standalone game yet it's been integrated to be part of the main game (at a price). I think despite the lack of multiplayer features, NH also have terraforming, DIYs, and a lot more features that offers creative freedom to the player. Without any bias and nostalgia, I think NH have already surpassed NL with the 2.0 update.

 

[nightglow]

I think it evens out if you buy the DLC. NH and NL are different enough I feel, to where it is a little hard to compare. So far, personally I'm enjoying NL more than I did NH.

 

[RollingAntony]

After? As of now, the game has arguably the same amount of content than New Leaf- it's just that both games are different games and both have different kind of content. New Horizons won't have online minigames and amiibo Festival minigames. New Leaf didn't have any kind of island design features and hobbies for the residents. And so on.

Numbers-wise, NH was only trailing behind NL on the unique furniture category, fruits, possible neighbors villagers, special NPC and understandably, a category like gyroids. It may also be possibly behind on total number of building upgrades/character unlocks and home upgrades/customization options. After the update, it'll probably only be behind on the special NPC category. All other categories of collectibles such as wallpaper, clothing, fossils, art, etc, and things like flowers are already on NH's favor.

 

[Brianstorm]

Well, I know both games are different but in NL we had more than double of the furniture sets, online minigames and much more.

Even Pocket Camp has more furniture sets than NH, that's a bit frustrating.

 

[Violet Witch]

Well, I know both games are different but in NL we had more than double of the furniture sets, online minigames and much more.

Even Pocket Camp has more furniture sets than NH, that's a bit frustrating.

That doesn't automatically mean ACNH won't have as much furniture compared to NL. You have to remember the AC Direct only showed us a fraction of what's coming in the 2.0 update and HHP, the voice over in the direct even said that they weren't going to show us everything. Personally I find it's best not to compare Animal Crossing games and just look forward to what's coming in two weeks time, otherwise you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[Raz]

You know, back when ACNH was released, comparisons between it and NL regarding the amount of items were all the rage. But now I think this is mostly pointless. I get why people compare them (humans love comparisons and pattern recognition more than most things), but I'm at a point where I prefere to treat them individually. ACNH is its own beast, and comparing it to previous iterations (or even comparing any game in the series with another one) is a futile exercise, imo.

I feel like ACNH has it's own identity, and that's certainly not "I wanna be NL, but bigger". And I have this point of view where I think games should be analyzed by what they are, by their own merits. And in that regard, even though I have many criticisms about the game (mostly about how it's development and commercial approach were handled), I feel like it's a very good game. I haven't got back to NL other than playing it for like an hour last year. Even ACGC, I played it for like two days since NH came out, and that's it.

The new update (+dlc) will give the game a breath of fresh air, but will also be the end of its lifecycle. We'll play it for some time, some more than others, until we inevitably drop it once more, be it for other games unrelated to AC or to play it's successor. Until then, I think we should enjoy it for what it is and judge it by its own merits.

 

[Shipper-Girl-27]

Idk I really didn’t played New Leaf as much as I’m playing New Horizons. Honestly I think we’re totally even in the items department. However, everyone has their own opinions and I’m just going to leave it at that.

 

[Orius]

Probably not. "This is the last major free update," after all. Maybe a paid DLC, but I don't think so.

 

[ForgottenT]

New Leaf didn't have any kind of island design feature

New Leaf were the first game to introduce it, with public works projects.

 

[Feraligator]

New Leaf were the first game to introduce it, with public works projects.

Animal Forest e+ actually had outdoor furniture similar to New Leaf:

So AFe+ was the first game to introduce outdoor decorating to an extent.

I feel like after the update NH will be above NL in content but for different things. The game has a huge emphasis on decorating and I feel it lacks in dialogue and villager relationships and multiplayer gameplay from NL (plus its ridiculous loading times when travelling to islands).
But the customisation is packed full of stuff to the point where I feel like it has more content than NL overall (at least from what I've seen in the 2.0 trailer; I don't know if all furniture sets will return). I guess NH is really just a different approach to Animal Crossing.

 

[RollingAntony]

New Leaf were the first game to introduce it, with public works projects.

I was referring to what we usually call "Terraforming"- the Island Designer app. That means waterscaping, cliff construction, path placing and ability for cleanup.

Decorating outside/placing furniture outside is a different thing. iirc, the feature kind of existed way back on one of the million versions of the first Animal Crossing game. Of course NH was the first game to basically delete all the limitations previous games had.

edit: Feraligator beat me with more precise information about the outdoor furniture!

 

[satine]

As of now, the game has arguably the same amount of content than New Leaf- it's just that both games are different games and both have different kind of content . . .

. . . Numbers-wise, NH was only trailing behind NL on the unique furniture category, fruits, possible neighbors villagers, special NPC and understandably, a category like gyroids. It may also be possibly behind on total number of building upgrades/character unlocks and home upgrades/customization options.

Actually, to be honest I don't think that it has the same amount of content as NL / previous titles precisely because of the things you listed below with furniture/special NPCs/upgrades/unlocks and other "progression" aspects of the game. The original purpose of the game was a sort of socialization-centered, slice-of-life progression. NH did indeed add a handful of things. Namely terraforming, which is certainly unique and meaty as far as features go and has led to many beautiful usages, though it might not be everyone's cup of tea and seems to lend us the power to micromanage each and every detail of our island which was never really the point of previous games. Crafting too, and being able to villager "hunt" of course, placing things outside.

But many older players still feel like the game is severely lacking because it seemed to REPLACE all of the unique facets of the game that they particularly enjoyed, rather than enhancing them. The game would've felt not only equal to past titles but extraordinarily ahead of them if it had had these features IN ADDITION TO all of the unique and staple NPCs (the pelicans for instance, the police dogs, Tortimer/Kappn/Brewster/etc), the older distinct features like gyroids and et cetera, the robust socialization aspect (socialization is certainly a BIG problem in ACNH, seeing that the villager dialogue isn't too diversified and the personalities have been extremely watered down) and the unlocks. Sure, there's a few "unlocks" still in the game, but they aren't very hard to overcome. Progression-based gameplay seems to be cut short in the game. We don't even have the ability to upsize the outer rooms of our home.

The vital and detrimental mistake that Nintendo made that rightfully left a bad taste in so many people's mouths is they thought that these new features could REPLACE the unique staple features/characters/functions that made so many of those people fall in love with the AC franchise to begin with. They are fine features, Minecraft and Sims-esque or not, but they should've enhanced the game experience rather than serving as a replacement.

The update will hopefully bring it up to speed as far as the older and widely beloved features go. Unfortunately many things still seem to have been left behind or rejected from the title. For many older players and for those who are moreso fans of the original aspects of AC rather than the new design/customization aspects, this is a bit of a disappointment and in my opinion a very understandable one.

 

[Romaki]

It's still missing a big chunk of multiplayer options, mainly just the freaking games where are they pls

 

[Lullaboid]

I think so overall, but maybe not comparable furniture still. I wish New Horizons had anywhere near the amount of furniture that New Leaf or Pocket Camp does...