Mafia American Politics Mafia - Game Over - Town Wins!

[Biancasbotique]

Okay, that just made me townlean Ness more. I don't think Ness can come up with Jagmeet Singh...unless he was given a safeclaim

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Okay, that just made me townlean Ness more. I don't think Ness can come up with Jagmeet Singh...unless he was given a safeclaim

Legit going to cry if that was a safe claim

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Oh wait nvm I realized what you were talking about. Yeah he could totally come up with Jagmeet Singh, I'm going to cry if that whole role was a safe claim.

 

[cornimer]

I?m so tired and literally falling asleep as I write this but y?all can?t say I didn?t contribute now.

"Byngo, Locket, Vanessa, and maybe AmazonEvan"


The bodyguard aspect of the presidency is probably worth it for mafia, I'm guess that kinda confirms the inclusion of a vig role and maybe even a second shooting (I kinda suspect hostile third) which maf would be safe from

Weird that he focused on these people when we hadn?t even posted yet and yada yada but:

What is your time zone?: est
Who do/did you want to be king?(not yourself): Crys lol
How would you go about campaigning for king?: i'll probably just not I've never not mislynched
Who would you lynch if king?: Trundle he's the first player on the player list
Describe your play style: I try to sound smart LOL but I'm not

When asked who he would king in kingmaker he didn?t even answer seriously. Granted, RQS are generally different tone than someone asking you a question, but I still think this is worth nothing.

Also, his response for choosing these people is decent:

I didn't chose really the president candidates based off their towniness, the fact that you haven't posted anything and I consider you a good president choice shouldn't really be concerning.

Whoever is president will probably be under extreme play spotlight. So the readability of the player is much more important to me than their towniness, we can always lynch the president

So I think we can drop this.

I found this slightly concerning when it was posted and still find it concerning now:

If it were up to me based on the extensive posters it would be Punchy. Pretty sure he's town.

This was only 76 posts into the game. I don?t know how he could already be so certain Punchy was town. I know when I was scum in RHOM, I was quick to townread people because?.well, I already knew who was town.

Now, posts concerning Dolby/Punchy after the ordeal:

A little confusing but if I read this correctly, Dolby says they're actually masons, while Punchy explains "My winton is for me to get Dolby elected. Dolby's wincon is for him to get me elected. We share a quick topic, one of us need to get elected to win"
There's not really any doubt they can talk outside the thread, and D0 is probably the only possible window for Dolby to create a successful lie to keep both him and punchy from not being elected. I really don't see any actual reason for trusting Dolby over anyone else, and I'd be kinda shocked if they aren't just a third-party team

Why would you even reveal anything at all in that case, it just sounds like you messed up and you're both trying to fix it

I take it as it's written, he claimed that if Dolby got elected, he would win. Vise-versa. In mafia's most basic form, town wins when mafia (Or hostile roles in all cases) are eliminated. So why Punchy would claim any other role besides one that follows Town's win condition is beyond me, and at the very least not pro-town

(Punchy had already stated at this point that he lied because he didn?t know if it were good or bad to claim mason. Knowing Punchy?s playstyle, I believed this right away so that?s why I am so concerned by people who kept questioning why he would lie)

If you were masons you would be trying to get mafia killed, any OTHER possibility of winning means you are a third party

Did you give Punchy the OK to reveal your role?

At least he seems to be progressing in his questioning and not stuck on the same idea.

Ness claiming blue makes complete sense to me, I was honestly gonna suggest someone claim blue so we can vote them into presidency, fact check their liability based on night actions, and not have to worry about them getting night-killed and basically ensure they stay alive (Assuming there isn't any other weird roles that can kill a president).
But I realized how poor of a choice outting blue could be in terms of helping scum pick out roles, so when I saw Ness allude to someone ELSE being blue in the game, encouraging everyone to read back, I got a little annoyed. Mafia would feel a little more extrinsically motivated to actually look for the clues Ness could see as compared to town who probably wouldn't try as hard. I feel a lot better knowing that he was actually referring to himself rather than anyone else, but I don't know if not revealing anything beyond him being blue is convincing enough for me to vote him in, as scummy as that sounds. That being said, his motivation for outting is probably in similar taste as to how I wanted the presidency to be decided, so he is my top choice at this moment.

His claim made much more sense to me than Punchy's, so I don't know how concerned I am with Punchy's thoughts on Ness's claim.

Still hung up on Punchy?s claim here but I like that he was ok with Ness. I feel like scum would be the ones trying to throw some doubt onto Ness because why would they want a blue in power?

@Dolby continued, And in terms of not being able to check Ness's role based of the first night's action, we can always try again the second night. If he fails to prove himself by that time, we lynch him. There is also the possibility of someone else counter claiming. Ness claiming blue is so extremely risky as mafia, and holds such minuscule benefits in comparison

Good point about how to check if Ness is scum and why it is ok to elect him, obviously he could have made this as either alignment but idk I like this post

The rest of his posts are about bodyguard mechanics and such I don?t feel a need to post them.

Tbh I expected to find him a lot more sus when I started this ISO. Still some areas for concern but I don?t think he is the most suspicious by any means.

 

[N e s s]

Okay, that just made me townlean Ness more. I don't think Ness can come up with Jagmeet Singh...unless he was given a safeclaim

I don't think thats a good reason to town lean me.

 

[Byngo]

If you are town, you know what I am talking about why I know there are third parties in this game. Obviously if you are clueless about it, you didn't received a wincon saying something about it

im actually tempted to tl bianca for this simply because i don?t see scum her thinking of this

 

[Biancasbotique]

I don't think thats a good reason to town lean me.

True thats why I said it could be a safeclaim. But unless ur Canadian, you wouldn't really come up with such , even if you are just making it up. Maybe USA politicians but Canadian politicians?

 

[Heyden]

And yet I agree to all of your scumreads other than Vanessa. Bianca please just stop being a useless piece of trash and HELP US. make some reads please. What's your stance on Waffles and why?

I literally spat my food out reading this lmfao

 

[cornimer]

Okay, that just made me townlean Ness more. I don't think Ness can come up with Jagmeet Singh...unless he was given a safeclaim

Like Ness said this is not the best reason to townlean him but it seems like a town Bianca frame of mind

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Legit Toads is being suspicious af he's been lurking all night and so has Rune.

 

[cornimer]

True thats why I said it could be a safeclaim. But unless ur Canadian, you wouldn't really come up with such , even if you are just making it up. Maybe USA politicians but Canadian politicians?

I mean true it is American politics, why would Ness choose a Canadian politician if he were lying

 

[Biancasbotique]

I mean true it is American politics, why would Ness choose a Canadian politician if he were lying

safeclaim by Trundle if he was lying.

But I'd like to believe he was really given the role name and flavor coming from Trundle

 

[N e s s]

True thats why I said it could be a safeclaim. But unless ur Canadian, you wouldn't really come up with such , even if you are just making it up. Maybe USA politicians but Canadian politicians?

again i don't think thats a good reason, but i can see town mindframe with you saying this

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also please stop using flavor question alignments, it leads to nowhere.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Ugh I really should do an ISO on toads asap. Hmm. I think that Bianca is less scummy now. Byngo, who do you sus and why?

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again i don't think thats a good reason, but i can see town mindframe with you saying this

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also please stop using flavor question alignments, it leads to nowhere.

The reason I asked btw is bc I thought she was tp Jester

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Ness, can you quote me your most recent reads?

 

[Byngo]

a Canadian politician for obvious reasons has nothing to do with American politics so flavor wise, starting out with no role makes sense

alsp my rolename is someone that has nothing to do with politics, so i think bashing reads off flavor probably isn’t a great idea anyways (it usually never is)

 

[PunchyTheCat]

a Canadian politician for obvious reasons has nothing to do with American politics so flavor wise, starting out with no role makes sense

alsp my rolename is someone that has nothing to do with politics, so i think bashing reads off flavor probably isn’t a great idea anyways (it usually never is)

What? R u Oprah or something?

 

[Heyden]

Bianca/Punchy are obviously town but can both of you guys seriously like settle down and stop acting like idiots, you don't have to post every little thing that comes through your head. Punchy just bc you're basically clear it doesn't mean you can act like an ******* and provoke everyone. Also Bianca, you know best not to claim, even role names, when it's clearly a non-serious situation jfc. It's honestly common sense to most people but w/e.

Anyway, I'm sort of on the edge about the godfathers being scum bc they've all been pretty pro-town so far, if I have to pick though it's between glow/dad. My other susses are Jacob/Vanessa/Toads and maybe someone hidden like Hikari/Evan but it's mostly just sheeping on others at this point.

Also reading through, I'm confident that Ness is NOT mafia, but still possibly some form of TP? Unlikely, but just worth noting.

 

[Byngo]

What? R u Oprah or something?

no comment

 

[Biancasbotique]

Ness put the name out there so obviously we need to see if there is credibility in what he just said. If I am hosting this American Mafia,
I wouldn't put Jagmeet Singh in it because obviously I only am aware of USA politics. But it lends somewhat credibility because this is hosted by Trundle , who is Canadian. Now If I hosted this and Ness Said Jagmet Singh, then obviously Ness is making it up because , I am sorry, I really don't follow Canadian politics. I only know Trudeau and thats it. Shoot me.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Heyden I'm trying to help townnn

 

[Biancasbotique]

and when did Punchy and Dolby become cleared?