An analysis of New Horizons' furniture

[John Wick]

The only thing that is right about your post is that models are counted, and I don't know why that would be a bad thing- they are useful for decorating, adding unique touches to your island/home and can be fun. You may not like them, but that doesn't mean they don't count or something.

All of the other things you said are wrong and were already stated on my post, but I'll answer again:

Don't forget that NH items are an absurd amount of clothing, like the ridiculous amount of socks
No, I'm not counting clothing here. I'm not posting my totals I've already done, but I can say that even when NL had tops that were the same thing but with short/long sleeves, NH already has more clothes than amiibo'd NL by 48. And this is unique amount of clothes, not color variations. And if by "ridiculous amount of socks" you mean 21 more, then I guess that's a new definition for ridiculous number.

and also color variations of the items we do get
No, color variations are not counted on my post for NH. NL has indeed some color variations inflating its total amount, like the cone and Lucky cat examples previously provided. If we do count color variations, I'm pretty sure NH will more than double/triple? the furniture total; as 677 of its furniture has possible variations with some of them having more than 4.

NL had so many more unique items, and a lot of those could be customized and didn't count as an entire 'extra item' the way NH tries to trick you into thinking you're getting..
NH is not "tricking" you into anything, the amount posted are unique items. If anything, NL did more of this "tricking" with a small amount of items being just color variations or different sizes with no change, like:

Dharma Set | MoriDB - Animal Crossing New Leaf Item Database

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Lucky Cat Set | MoriDB - Animal Crossing New Leaf Item Database

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So yeah, there is no "tricking" involved, I posted the numbers as they are. However, if you do indeed think I have made a mistake, please let me know.

Like I said before, it's ok to prefer the old furniture. But please don't go around spreading misinformation.

I did not say it as fact, or I wouldn't have said 'probably'.
You didn't see that during your analysis of my post?

Don't forget that NH items are an absurd amount of clothing, like the ridiculous amount of socks and garbage that nobody would ever wear, and also bug and fish models, that is probably half the item count, and also color variations of the limited amount of actual items we do get.

Anyway, I know exactly what is in NL, as I have all the RV amiibo cards (series 5), and all the figures including Zelda, Splatoon, and Monster Hunter, and the items that each of them give.

Plus Sanrio, and that doesn't include the massive amount of actual furniture and sets, including the many plants.

NL has a fantastic amount of unique items, and NH pales in comparison.

There are about 200 items I could list off the top of my head that I sorely miss.

Anyway, still waiting, but losing hope they will return.

I don't spread 'misinformation' at all.
I, as well as probably thousands of other long time players, know exactly what is missing, and that was my point.
I also said 'probably' when referring to what might be counted.

I wasn't getting into quantum mathematics over it, and didn't need my post dissected and scrutinized.

I was merely stating what is missing is more than just a handful of items.

(Also, I don't count models as useful furniture, apart from a select few, but that's JMO.)

 

[Reginald Fairfield]

They did include odd things in NH like the astro dress, chocolate bar themed walls and rugs and a sloppy rug that would go with the older sets.

 

[J087]

Nintendo is hinting on keeping Acnh updated for 3 years, and hinted that next Easter event will still be interesting for all players. This might suggest new Easter furniture will be introduced. If true, the old sets we had in New Leaf might still make a comeback.

Overall, things are great and we don't have reason to complain. It might not be perfect to your liking, but the current game already offers more features than we could ever hope for.

 

[RollingAntony]

I did not say it as fact, or I wouldn't have said 'probably'.
You didn't see that during your analysis of my post?



Anyway, I know exactly what is in NL, as I have all the RV amiibo cards (series 5), and all the figures including Zelda, Splatoon, and Monster Hunter, and the items that each of them give.

Plus Sanrio, and that doesn't include the massive amount of actual furniture and sets, including the many plants.

NL has a fantastic amount of unique items, and NH pales in comparison.

There are about 200 items I could list off the top of my head that I sorely miss.

Anyway, still waiting, but losing hope they will return.

I don't spread 'misinformation' at all.
I, as well as probably thousands of other long time players, know exactly what is missing, and that was my point.
I also said 'probably' when referring to what might be counted.

I wasn't getting into quantum mathematics over it, and didn't need my post dissected and scrutinized.

I was merely stating what is missing is more than just a handful of items.

(Also, I don't count models as useful furniture, apart from a select few, but that's JMO.)

Ok, first of all, leave the mockery/digs at the door; I answered to your post respectfully.

I didn't miss the "probably", you literally talked about NH having clothes and color variations as part of its furniture amount ("it's tricking people!"), which is wrong and was explained on the very first post of the thread about what is being counted and what not. Especially when one of the "tricks" you mentioned was done on NL and yet you pointed it as a NH flaw. That is spreading misinformation.

Like... did you even read or understand the thread? I'm not saying there is no missing furniture, I literally showed the numbers and sure, NL has more items- no one is denying that. But NH still has 1,000+ furniture items present. Comparisons can be fun, they don't have to be a contest of "one game has garbage no one would use".

It would be cool and complimentary to this thread to have more examples of the differences between both games, to showcase the wild variety the franchise offers- if you have the knowledge you're welcome to share that and we can create an even richer environment. For example, NH has a chessboard while NL offers the the six chess pieces- both are furniture centered around chess but both have their distinct uses!

 

[0019293893]

Legitimately one of the most informative threads I’ve read in a while. I never thought about them changing some things so it’s more friendly for both indoors and outdoors, or the “equivalency”.

please do more small essays on things in this franchise

 

[John Wick]

Ok, first of all, leave the mockery/digs at the door; I answered to your post respectfully.

I didn't miss the "probably", you literally talked about NH having clothes and color variations as part of its furniture amount ("it's tricking people!"), which is wrong and was explained on the very first post of the thread about what is being counted and what not. Especially when one of the "tricks" you mentioned was done on NL and yet you pointed it as a NH flaw. That is spreading misinformation.

Like... did you even read or understand the thread? I'm not saying there is no missing furniture, I literally showed the numbers and sure, NL has more items- no one is denying that. But NH still has 1,000+ furniture items present. Comparisons can be fun, they don't have to be a contest of "one game has garbage no one would use".

It would be cool and complimentary to this thread to have more examples of the differences between both games, to showcase the wild variety the franchise offers- if you have the knowledge you're welcome to share that and we can create an even richer environment. For example, NH has a chessboard while NL offers the the six chess pieces- both are furniture centered around chess but both have their distinct uses!

Excuse me, but I felt you were being very rude and hostile to me.

You quoted me, and in bold text proceeded to point out how I am wrong about everything I posted.

When my post was JUST an opinion, hence the word 'probably', and not stating anything as fact.

I'm an adult.
I don't come here to be talked down to, or have my posts dissected, or to debate.
I wasn't rude to you.

Do me the same courtesy.

It seems people who don't incessantly gush over this game are attacked for it.

Over & out.

 

[Bilaz]

Oh right I forgot about the models, it’s true that 168 ‘model’ items are really kind of same-y looking? :/ which is a bit of a shame
there are also 34 items which are just wreaths but I guess they’re a bit more versatile

 

[Rosch]

On the topic of models, I do miss miniature dinosaur fossils. Also I miss the music boxes. Additionally, the gemstone variations of furniture being absent is a little disappointing.

I honestly wish Re-Tail would return. Crafting and customization is a huge thing in this game, yet we don't have these.

 

[Bugs]

Thank you for taking the time to put together all this information! I didn't really think about how the new furniture is actually equivalent to the older furniture with a new look. I must agree that the new spooky set looks a lot better than the old one and is more versatile.

I miss some of the wackier and more intricate designs of new leafs furniture but new horizons is definitely getting there!

I hope Nintendo keeps adding more interesting furniture as we keep going forward

 

[John Wick]

On the topic of models, I do miss miniature dinosaur fossils. Also I miss the music boxes. Additionally, the gemstone variations of furniture being absent is a little disappointing.

I honestly wish Re-Tail would return.

Me too!

I loved the dinosaurs, and K.K. through the clam music box was magic! ^_^

 

[meggiewes]

Oh right I forgot about the models, it’s true that 168 ‘model’ items are really kind of same-y looking? :/ which is a bit of a shame
there are also 34 items which are just wreaths but I guess they’re a bit more versatile

Are you talking about the fish and butterfly models? They look like the species they are and the fish are smaller than the bugs. I guess that's how they could be considered samey. But each model is distinctly the bug or fish they are (the scorpion is clearly a scorpion and the sea bass is clearly the sea bass). I don't consider them samey looking.

I do wish we could hang the fish models up on plaques on the wall though.

 

[Bilaz]

Are you talking about the fish and butterfly models? They look like the species they are and the fish are smaller than the bugs. I guess that's how they could be considered samey. But each model is distinctly the bug or fish they are (the scorpion is clearly a scorpion and the sea bass is clearly the sea bass). I don't consider them samey looking.

I do wish we could hang the fish models up on plaques on the wall though.

Well no that’s true but what I meant with same-y is that they’re all... just that, a model of a fish or a bug. Unless you wanted to fill a room with fish or bug models (mind you that’s a cool idea but not for everyone), you’d only really get use out of displaying one or two favourites. It’s still, if we look at the numbers game, 168 individual items that in the base game of new leaf were sofas, tables, chairs, beds, etc. which is definitely a lot more versatile (the fossil models in new leaf were only around 30)

 

[StarlitGlitch]

A key difference though between NL and NH is that NH has a much stronger emphasis on customization and so many times more space to work with. Because of this, the lack of variety in furniture is more apparent than if the gameplay was more similar to NL where they could've gotten away with less variation. So I agree that it doesn't make sense to compare it to NL as if they're on equal footing.
It still feels like for a game that is pushing decoration so hard there should've been more options. It's not abysmal by any means but it has hurt my enjoyment of the game. I still haven't finished decorating my island because I feel limited by what's available and am waiting for a big update.

Also personally I was a fan of the region-locked items because of how rewarding it felt when you finally got your hands on them. Their rarity made me enjoy having them that much more. One thing I do like about NH is the addition of more expensive (non-Gracie) furniture pieces.

 

[Purities]

This is such an interesting analysis! I definitely think that because of the lack off food items and plants, that, for me, it feels like NH was lack lustre in furniture, when in hind-sight it's not. A lot of my creations in NL and HHD thrived off of items like plants and food items to place as clutter, and with that missing everything I made felt pretty barren lol. NH has definitely made me have to change my decorating style, for better or worse is up to individual opinion. I was so against decorating my house almost in protest of hating the lack of furniture and after reading this an hour or so ago, decided to give it a try. And low and behold its beautiful! Not finished yet but I'll def share pics somewhere on TBT when it's done

Thanks so much for this. The analytics put into perspective how much this around one-year-old game has accomplished in such a short time. The graphics definitely make it harder for developers but visually is so beautiful and will be worth the wait with new furniture DLC in the future

 

[Your Local Wild Child]

This thread reminded me of the dumb idea to cut out fossil models when they literally just started making models for the other two wings...I coulda used an army of Megalocerus models.

While I do agree that the selection is most certainly not skinny, at the same time there is an apparent bias towards a couple set of styles. I personally LOVE the changes to a lot of the items to look more outdoorsy and natural and I find a good amount of the craftable items to be perfect for my island. HOWEVER, that is because I’ve always been more partial towards nature aesthetics and am naturally drawn towards them. One BIG problem I see is that there really isn’t all too much basic modern or futuristic houseware items. It’s playing pretty far into the more natural feel of the island. While I don’t have a problem with that (as stated above), at the same time I understand why some people who prefer more urban aesthetics are upset with the selection they’re forced to use. The way I see it, if they had done the flipside (make a game about building up a cutesy metropolis and reduce the amount of natural and rustic furniture), I’d similarly be upset with the furniture selection.

Furthermore, looking back at previous games, there’s still quite a few rustic/natural furniture pieces and PWPs that I am sorely missing. Do you know how far the regal, rococo and chess sets go in making castle builds? Not to mention that geyser looks so awesome and I’d love it on Evwirt...

I’m still holding out hopes that a Nooks Cranny update will bring a whole slew of new items to the table. No doubt they will be changed (for better or for worse is a matter of opinion), but we will likely have more neutral items to work with.

TL DR: yes, there’s a lot of items, and I like the direction they took. No, not everyone wants to make a natural/rustic island (no one should be forced to have one either). No, not everything I want is in. I am 95% sure they’ll add more neutral furniture into the game. Deer child is sad no deer fossil models are in the game.

 

[Manah]

I think one of the key factors that get overlooked is access to your options - in NL, everything was available in your own copy of the game, while NH requires both money (for the online subscription) and other venues outside of the game (to arrange trades) to get a lot of options. Maybe the diner series is the perfect fit for my kitchen, but I need it in yellow instead of blue - and now I need to have a paid service and invest time, possibly a lot, to find people who happen to have all the pieces in the color I want. In NL I'd order the default series and have them changed, and just waiting half an hour per item is nowhere near as time-consuming as coordinating trades with people with their own schedule (a thing you really only HAD to do with regional exclusives in NL).

And then there's the variety - thanks to the crafting system and the limited resource types there is a lot of wood. Yeah, the numbers are impressive, but then it's a regular wooden series, wooden blocks, logs, wood with some iron around it, and it really gets samey compared to distinctly diferrent furniture like, say, comparing the rococo, royal, astro wtc. series from NL. NL may be more creative with the event items but overall it feels like less because the day-to-day items don't match up.

Numbers are well and good, but they don't really reflect the actual experience of playing the game.

 

[Snek]

I really enjoyed reading your analysis. I knew when crafting was introduced that we would have less furniture options. However, I believe that NH actually has more customisation options for furniture than in NL. NL was focused on the interiors so the designers needed lots of indoor themes. Despite that I did notice that I missed furniture they replaced. However, I disagree that we have "replacements". For example, from NL, I do miss the creepy sets, especially the statue, skeleton, and coffin. I would much rather have the creepy skeleton, a full skeleton, rather than only a skull. Also, for me personally, I am dumbfounded why there aren't more food options. Food furniture was popular in NL. For Turkey Day, they had the models right in front of us! But...we got more dinnerware instead. More table settings. Please devs NO MORE table settings!!!! The only thing close was the crock pot but I really wanted the pumpkin pie... I shouldn't really complain too much though. It hasn't even been a whole year yet. Those that played NL (like me), and possibly PC, are rather "spoiled" to a certain extent from having lots of furniture variety. We should just wait until the devs come out with more furniture.

 

[Bilaz]

Also personally I was a fan of the region-locked items because of how rewarding it felt when you finally got your hands on them. Their rarity made me enjoy having them that much more. One thing I do like about NH is the addition of more expensive (non-Gracie) furniture pieces.

Forgive me if I’m assuming, but your profile states you’re from Japan. I’m assuming you never had to play a PAL copy of the game? Regional items might have been fun for American and Japanese games, with a huge amount of items each that could be swapped with each other. But in all the games Europe got absolutely nothing (2 items at most). I’ve sooo often seen everyone online talking about a holiday with a cool little item and I’d log on and... nothing :/
This is why me and a lot of Europeans are glad they’re no longer region locked because we never had anything to swap

 

[bebebese]

Seconding the EU/PAL sentiment. I think you had to have your 3DS region set to Spain/France/Germany to even get the new year's items because I never saw them in the time I played NL. I'm glad region locking is gone this time around, even if it makes getting the items feel less special.

 

[Bilaz]

Seconding the EU/PAL sentiment. I think you had to have your 3DS region set to Spain/France/Germany to even get the new year's items because I never saw them in the time I played NL. I'm glad region locking is gone this time around, even if it makes getting the items feel less special.

Indeed! You are correct
The English language, Spanish and French items were not even PAL exclusives, they were available for America, Canadian French and Latin American Spanish games too. You could get the berliner by changing the language to German for the day, and we had the stocking on 5 december. That was pretty much it for exclusive furniture items