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[Emolga59]

ALRIGHT

TL;DR, my weapon is a role-disable and I kinda siked you guys I think I'm like the 3rd person to do this so I'm sry if you don't like dealing with this often gjhkhgstgd

Time to explain my little "weapon"
So... First off, I said I referred to this as a weapon, although it doesn't kill, why? Because it can indeed be a weapon, depending on how things would've played out. I alluded to someone being able to die to mine, but like I've said before, this is not the case. I up played my ability so something dangerous would've been expected. I also alluded to being a 2-part ability, which it is. I used this to my advantage to perhaps suggest that it would be 2 at different times (I mean, depending on how you read it.) My other part, was to disable a role from squirtle squad for the rest of the game. Going back to day 2, I had actually thought that the protection part was a unlimited-use role, however I had initially knew that the 2nd role part was a one-time use. I had originally thought of keeping it a secret, but decided not to a little later after the events that occurred later in that day. The phrase I had wanted to hear was something like "My ability was stolen" or "I can't use my ability", or just straight up "my role was disabled." By doing so, I'd know who got theirs disabled and who the remaining squirtle squad would be. And no, I didn't steal any star. Unfortunately, I can't disable killing, but the role I ended up disabling is unknown to me. Here's why I think I didn't get the response i wanted:
If a mafia got their role disabled, why would they end up mentioning that because obviously, a townie had disabled them
But, on the contrary they'd use that to try and make themselves look innocent or try to frame a townie. This was the little bit of hope I was holding onto. I already knew that they wouldn't be able to do anything if they were using it tonight. Also, they'd get a notif if their ability was blocked off (cause, why wouldn't they.) I decided to take my chances anyways, and see what would happen. Also, I have no idea who I've visited, which makes Kattea's death quite unfortunate (like I said before, I didn't see Kattea's death coming which I will admit was a little stupid on my part.)

I think that's it but I might be missing a bit. Hope I explained myself well-

The reasoning behind my confused role was because I didn't wanna show myself as logical until now to avoid making myself a target. (That and the fact I genuinely wasn't sure what was happening at first glance for a few of the situations, but managed to get a grip after more events followed)

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Also, I might not be back to respond more so this might be my last message for the day (Or just... for the entire game)

 

[shellbell]

ok, i think i get what emolga is putting down, if i replace "role" with "ability" cause that just confused me lol. my main take away from this is

By doing so, I'd know who got theirs disabled and who the remaining squirtle squad would be.

emolga thinks there's 1 squirtle squad left as well...

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ok, i think i get what emolga is putting down, if i replace "role" with "ability" cause that just confused me lol. my main take away from this is

emolga thinks there's 1 squirtle squad left as well...

ACTUALLY NVM I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING EMOLGA JUST SAID

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i literally pulled an all nighter for this game i couldn't sleep lmao

 

[BungoTheElf]

Imo because I think tessa is maf the thought process for her voting mistreil is

>mistreil just got caught red handed by rosie how else is she gonna back out of this
> might as well vote now so i dont look sus when everyone else does

but we all ended up skeptical and wanted to hear from mistreil and the whole star and boo confusion happened so her quick vote without much explanation stuck out

obviously this is only a guess but I still stand by that I think tess is mafia as well as mistreil now and that there's only one left

I still don't know who to vote for and I'm on break rn with very little time before I get back around past noon so im sorry if i dont get around to voting im still very undecided

 

[shellbell]

honestly i kinda just went in like, disregard player-player interactions, and focused on who was lying about their ability cause obviously the squirtle squad has some killing ability and we know you can't have 2 abilities at the same time.

 

[BungoTheElf]

I may have to go on bathroom break for u guys but idk

 

[Equity]

WHY TESSA AND MISTREIL CAN NOT BOTH BE MAFIA IMO
Firstly, I'm still unconvinced tessa was mafia so this is coming from my mindset of: Mistreil = Mafia & Tessa = Townie
(Also this is not me defending tessa, I understand why she appeared sus but this is just my opinion, she was a town LEAN for me but not a solid townie)

I 100% believe Mistreil was mafia due to my ability - so WHY would Tessa vote Mistreil if she (tessa) was also mafia.

I understand your perspective @Rosetti. In response to your quote, however, I still believe Tessa had some sus elements to her.

I 100% believe Mistreil was mafia due to my ability - so WHY would Tessa vote Mistreil if she (tessa) was also mafia.

(Please excuse my potentially crude words!)
Why? Based on her inactivity pattern (looking back at her previous mafia game), she could have had the following logic: "I'm too busy with life and Mistreil's busted anyway. Rather than defending her, I'll just vote her off. Let the other Squirtle Squad member deal with it."

I'd like to mention something I noticed in the previous mafia game she partook in: Ace and Tessa were both mafias, and despite having taken her side later in the game, he did agree to sus Tessa at the beginning of the game (seems fair, as it would make him more town-lean, safe choice). Reference 1 (player sussing Tessa), Reference 2 (Ace agreeing with the sus), Reference 3 (Ace agreeing to join with majority vote, i.e., voting against Tessa).

HOWEVER, it doesn't seem logic that she'd vote against her own (if she's Squirtle Squad) without trying to defend her. It would go against her winning condition (as Squirtle Squad member). I don't exclude the possibility of her being townie, but I'm not convinced that she's more town-lean than Squirtle Squad-lean.

My question still holds: how does the benefits of her ability and her potentially being a townie outweigh the costs her inactivity? Please enlighten me, as I just do not see any benefit. Why sign up for a game if you weren't going to be active in the first place (please do not take this personally Tessa! I understand that mafia games can be fun, so you might have said, why not!)? If she's truly a townie, seems more like a losing game as she could easily be the last townie standing given her inactivity (Squirtle Squad eliminating her last). Looking at her inactivity pattern, she wouldn't bring much to the table. Could we have reloed on her to defend townies well enough?

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I don't know @Rosetti... I understand your reasoning, but it also seems like you've been trying to direct our votes towards a target of your choice (looking at Mistreil's, kikotoot's, thetessagrace's, your (@Rosetti's) and now Emolga59's situations). I haven't thoroughly analyzed your posts because we're starting to run out of time, but it seems like you've been countering others' claims and pushing for your opinion to go through. If you're a townie, it seems like you're trying to "carry" the team with your reasoning while excluding others' opinions. Please do not hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong though (Also, please don't take this personally, I don't have anything against you, but just a bit sus right now...)! I'll wait until you've explained why @Emolga59 is a prime suspect!

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Also, regarding @Emolga59's situation, I was waiting for him to defend himself, but the post just seems to be him explaining his ability? Not much defending there, so I don't know what to think about that...

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ALRIGHT
TL;DR

In case you're still able to response @Emolga59, I've snipped the part directed at you (@shellbell's post)!

emolga is like, the most sus for me rn. they were ? for me the whole time. looking back (and looking at my personal notes) i had emolga as someone who is diligent, understands a lot of the rules of mafia, very thoughtful and insightful. so him chosing to “protect” lynn over kattea or rosie because he “didn’t think of it” and “didn’t see that from shawo” is a little dubious. the whole “lynn didn’t get a notification” makes it so there’s no way to verify the protection ability claim either. kattea is dead too so can't use that ability to check emolga's "visit". on top of everything, emolga has evaded letting us know what the “weapon”* is (kiko knows but i have no clue) *looking at this now isn’t it a little weird that emolga can do 2 completely different things? @Emolga59 = most likely false

Would you like to reply to this?

 

[rosetti]

Regarding Rosetti, I don’t know if your vote change makes you more sus or less sus. On the one hand, it can look like this was your plan all along (voting for yourself, then change your vote), but this seems unlikely, as @shellbell posted her analysis at the same time as you. So, both of you may have had the same thought unless she was influenced by your vote (you casted your vote before explaining). On the other hand, you may just be a townie. I’ll wait to see what your explanation is before jumping to conclusions!

(This is my timezone so it'll obvs be different for everyone else)
I posted my vote at 12:03
Myself & Shell posted in this thread at 12:09

I think Shell was probably typing up her post as I was voting & typing up mine - I don't think we have influenced each other at all, just active at the same time (I have also not explained my sus for Emolga AT ALL so there's not rly any influence there anyway for shell to go off of apart from a vote which I'm guessing she did not see (6 min difference)



MY JUICY FAT SUS LIST YUMM HOPE U ENJOY:

ROSETTI: sorry to disappoint u all that there's no big elaborate mafia plan goin on in my noggin rn (yes, I am disappointed too - playing as mafia is way more fun and to pull off that scenario u guys are talking about would indeed be very satisfying and cool, but alas I am still having a good time rn as a wee townie LOL)

SHELLBELL: homie used that recharge thingy, I got the pm and literally used the ability/it benefitted me aka this is solid proof to me she's a townie - rly not much else to say LMAO

EQUITY: sis was v specific with that death star ability (detailed enough for me to see this as townie credibility), has consistently considered all sides and I think she's confident with her own analysis & opinions due to analysing the situations as much as she does. I cant 100% clear her like I can confidently with Shell, but to me everything adds up as townie behaviours so far

KIKOTOOT: in the politest way possible, Kiko's behaviours and opinions have been all over the place LMAO - this makes Kiko more difficult to read as I'm not sure which of their opinions are solid or just thoughts/whims (example, I pointed out their flip flopping a couple of posts ago) - HOWEVER, despite the consistent chaotic behaviour, they are truly going into depth with their analysis - similarly to equity. Considering every possible option is beneficial thinking, the stuff with Shell recharging them N3 & using their ability N1 has been consistent, since I trust Shell completely this situation gives Kiko more credibility as this scenario of abilities and recharging has been consistent.

EMOLGA59: HERE'S THE JUICYNESS UR WANTING: THIS ALSO OVERLAPS A BIT WITH MY REASONS FOR SUSING LYNN SO THIS MIGHT BE A LIL COMBINED BECAUSE I SEE THEM AS WORKING TOGETHER..
A lot of this is focusing on day 3 and partially how the voting went down - although they both ended up voting Mistreil in the end, they were the LAST to do so/very much towards the end - I see this as them analysing the situation to see if there was any chance of saving their fellow squirtle squad member. I also see this scenario because Lynn put in a vote for Tessa early on (third to vote that day - the first & second votes being me and tessa voting Mistreil) - to me this was her testing the waters of the push against tessa (a lot of speculation occurred that day around tessa, so it somewhat worked in creating suspicion around her). After people were leaning more towards voting Mistreil (Me, Tessa, Shell and Kat) - Lynn then also changed her vote to Mistreil, Emolga followed and also voted Mistreil (that list is in chronological order btw). I think they both voted for their fellow maf member in the end to avoid suspicion/followed the town crowd

Consistently, emolga and lynn have been on the same page throughout this game - they have not questioned each other at all, to me I can imagine them having a maf chat together outside of the thread, their opinions have been somewhat the same (if I remember right lmao), their behaviours have also been similar - remaining fairly neutral - not presenting 'new ideas'/just building off of what there already is within town talk - both not being very revealing about their abilities until today

A POSSIBLE LIE:

Mine item is mario-themed (not my actual ability tho, that's mafia themed I think)

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Also I'm almost done with my readsss (be proud of me pls, it's a new learning experience LOL)

I think mafia were under the impression items would be mario themed (it's baby park yes it would make sense), hense Mistreil claiming to have a 'star' (like the one in mario) - this is not the case imo (I don't believe I've said before but my item is a 'spirit diary') - overall emolga has been inconsistent with their ability, I think they're kinda making stuff up as they go along. I also think saying their item was mario themed was to give Mistreil more credibility.

THEIR SUS LIST: POST #298

ONLY scum read tessa (trying to push this narrative)
Remained 'NULL' on mistreil - continuing to test the waters of potentially saving her
TOWN read Lynn, despite lynn not being very active at this point

Looking back, I believe kiko was the first to push tessa on if she's potentially scum (to me this was just kiko considering all the options), it seems this was an opportunity for maf to jump on this and try and run with it (LIKE PEOPLE STILL SAYING NOW THEY BELEIVE BOTH TESSA AND MISTREIL WERE MAFIA... LMAO NO I DON'T BELEIVE THIS AS STATED EARLIER)

Also emolgas whole ability thing.. going from its a weapon, but it's also a protection? but it disables an ability use? So if you 'protected' Lynn last night then this would disable her ability (unless I'm misinterpreting and you would actually disable the persons ability that would be used on lynn BUT WHO would target lynn at this point apart from mafia) - Emolga could actually be telling the truth about their ability BUT they're mafia - maybe he wanted to stop anyone reading Lynn as they might find out that she's mafia whilst successfully taking out Tessa.

BUNGOTHEELF: A lot of reasoning is linked to emolgas stuff so I won't repeat any of that

After hearing about the double death, both emolga and lynn didn't really question it (apart from lynn & the gun thing) - probably because they already knew this was the night plan (I just find their reactions weird) (I'M ALSO JUST SEEING EMOLGAS LATEST POST RN - he has had no reaction/anything to say on the gun situation STILL)
Looking back at Mistreils sus list, she also cleared Lynn as definitely town alongside Kat and Shell in her post #315 - also trying to clear/protect lynn

THE ENTIRE GUN THING.. I think Lynn is telling the truth about killing tessa, but acting as a maf member not a townie, the pattern of abilities/items in this game is that they're a little 'complex' and not straight forward (I'm mainly comparing this to Equity's ability, she can kill but only under a certain condition), also the fact the item is just.. 'a gun' - feels like a lie to me, so far the items have had a little bit more 'spruceness' to them/shawos creativity. I think this was an easy ability/item to simply lie about in the manner she has



LOOKING AT MAFS CHOICES:

I think they were scared of Tessa's ability, it could have undone a lot of work if they tried to push a narrative with town to vote someone innocent - choosing to kill Kat AND Tessa may be because they both believed me in the Mistreil situation, which they did not like and chose to get rid of people that trusted me. This means the level of suspicion around me remains more so (if they tried for a push to vote me out)

(ok i think that's everything I hope I havent missed stuff/I will catch up with posts if stuff has gone done whilst I wrote this)

 

[Equity]

ACTUALLY NVM I DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING EMOLGA JUST SAID

From what I understood, @Emolga59's has a 2-part ability:

1. "weapon" --> more like "shield" ability (can protect someone from any ability/"kill"?)

   I had actually thought that the protection part was a unlimited-use role [emphasis are my own], however I had initially knew that the 2nd role part was a one-time use. [emphasis are my own]

2. "Disabling skills ability"

   My other part, was to disable a role from squirtle squad for the rest of the game.

   Unfortunately, I can't disable killing [emphasis are my own], but the role I ended up disabling is unknown to me.

This begs the question... Who did you use it on then @Emolga59? It seems like some players are currently sussing you, so I'm not sure when would be a good time!

 

[Equity]

By comparing @shellbell's and @Rosetti's analyses, I also understand their suspicions. I was also sus of @Emolga59 for protecting @BungoTheElf rather than Kattea (out of everyone else, why @BungoTheElf?). I get that he may have been concerned that @BungoTheElf wouldn't be able to use her weapon, but on the other hand, Kattea's ability is really useful for townies (she didn't need recharges; she could have used it last night, but "died", so townies are now clueless about what information she may have gotten).

I don't know how I feel about this.

• Emolga59 (townie): It may very well be a slip on his part; Kattea went under the radar. There has been a lot to read after all (e.g., my extremely large texts).
• Emolga59 (Squirtle Squad member): @BungoTheElf and @Emolga59 are working together. As such, protecting BungoTheElf was their plan all along. Assuming Emolga is part of Squirtle Squad and if – like @shellbell mentioned – Emolga is truly diligent and insightful, then yes, saying that he didn't expect Kattea's death is a little "sloppy" on his part. The "not disclosing my ability until the very end" is also sus, who exactly were you waiting for @Emolga59? Other than @Rosetti, every player was active yesterday afternoon/evening (EDT). You could have easily pushed for more information on your target player (like I did with Mistreil before I revealed what my item was). Were you targeting @Rosetti then (I can only think of this option)?
  • Unlike @kikotoot, @shellbell, @Rosetti, Emolga has given some more insightful information very late into the night (analysis on why "dead" players were Squirtle Squad's prime targets). Perhaps that's just his play style and didn't realize that information until then.
  • However, it could have also been Emolga playing the townie (when in fact, Emolga is part of Squirtle Squad) and Emolga is trying to give more in-depth analysis as to why players "died" to seem less sus when some of us has started prying for more details on Emolga. As he didn't have time to come up with an elaborate scheme, he most likely gave away Squirtle Squad's real reasoning behind these "deaths" and was betting on the chance of "gullible townies" not suspecting him (and perhaps idolizing him as an insightful townie "detective")?

I'm still holding on to my assertion of Emolga playing "2 cards" ("just as confused townie" vs. "experienced mafia player"). As such, I do not exclude Emolga from my sus list.

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On a side note, by reading your latest post @Rosetti, I feel bad for my potentially crude words. Please do believe me when I say I'm only trying to fish out more information by attempting to take it up a notch (my tone)! I'm still unsure of who to believe so I have quite a few susses:

• @shellbell:
  • seems pretty safe with how open she's been
• @kikotoot:
  • seems pretty safe with with all the scenarios they've been making; I don't think Squirtle Squad would spend that much time on posts honestly!
• @Rosetti:
  • seems somewhat safe (seems to be telling the truth about Mistreil's read, thereby solidifying Mistreil's alignment as a Squirtle Squad member; I don't think she'd spend so much time on posts if she were Squirtle Squad);
  • seems somewhat sus (trying to skew voting towards a player(s)?)
• @Emolga59:
  • seems somewhat safe (perhaps is laying low because has some sort of larger plan (though that goes in line with the "trying to carry the team" tactic, which is also a bit sus? brings some insightful information to the table, e.g., yesterday "death" trend);
  • seems somewhat sus (has been pretty opaque/vague about his ability; not defending himself, but stated "TL;DR", so may not have had time)
• @BungoTheElf:
  • seems somewhat safe (perhaps genuinely trying to figure things out but have no time because of work);
  • seems somewhat sus (laying low, going with the flow; also I can also see the Emolga/BungoTheElf Squirtle Squad interaction)

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Based on the posts I've read, I'm under the impression that the voting will only be casted by a few people: @Rosetti, @shellbell and me (@Equity). Unfortunately, I believe @kikotoot will be asleep until past noon (EDT); @Emolga59 has other commitments; and @BungoTheElf has other commitments as well (is working).

As such, @shellbell, are you still taking the stance of sussing @Emolga59? I'm still undecided and I'm waiting to see if anyone else will reply before solidifying my vote!

 

[rosetti]

I understand your perspective @Rosetti. In response to your quote, however, I still believe Tessa had some sus elements to her.

(Please excuse my potentially crude words!)
Why? Based on her inactivity pattern (looking back at her previous mafia game), she could have had the following logic: "I'm too busy with life and Mistreil's busted anyway. Rather than defending her, I'll just vote her off. Let the other Squirtle Squad member deal with it."

I'd like to mention something I noticed in the previous mafia game she partook in: Ace and Tessa were both mafias, and despite having taken her side later in the game, he did agree to sus Tessa at the beginning of the game (seems fair, as it would make him more town-lean, safe choice). Reference 1 (player sussing Tessa), Reference 2 (Ace agreeing with the sus), Reference 3 (Ace agreeing to join with majority vote, i.e., voting against Tessa).

HOWEVER, it doesn't seem logic that she'd vote against her own (if she's Squirtle Squad) without trying to defend her. It would go against her winning condition (as Squirtle Squad member). I don't exclude the possibility of her being townie, but I'm not convinced that she's more town-lean than Squirtle Squad-lean.

My question still holds: how does the benefits of her ability and her potentially being a townie outweigh the costs her inactivity? Please enlighten me, as I just do not see any benefit. Why sign up for a game if you weren't going to be active in the first place (please do not take this personally Tessa! I understand that mafia games can be fun, so you might have said, why not!)? If she's truly a townie, seems more like a losing game as she could easily be the last townie standing given her inactivity (Squirtle Squad eliminating her last). Looking at her inactivity pattern, she wouldn't bring much to the table. Could we have reloed on her to defend townies well enough?

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I don't know @Rosetti... I understand your reasoning, but it also seems like you've been trying to direct our votes towards a target of your choice (looking at Mistreil's, kikotoot's, thetessagrace's, your (@Rosetti's) and now Emolga59's situations). I haven't thoroughly analyzed your posts because we're starting to run out of time, but it seems like you've been countering others' claims and pushing for your opinion to go through. If you're a townie, it seems like you're trying to "carry" the team with your reasoning while excluding others' opinions. Please do not hesitate to correct me if I'm wrong though (Also, please don't take this personally, I don't have anything against you, but just a bit sus right now...)! I'll wait until you've explained why @Emolga59 is a prime suspect!

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Also, regarding @Emolga59's situation, I was waiting for him to defend himself, but the post just seems to be him explaining his ability? Not much defending there, so I don't know what to think about that...

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In case you're still able to response @Emolga59, I've snipped the part directed at you (@shellbell's post)!

Would you like to reply to this?

IDK HOW TO CUT UP QUOTES AAAA SO I will highlight & colour coordinate LMAOO

- I agree, as I said I totally understand why ppl found her sus, it just didn't influence or change my personal opinion - I'm not trying to invalidate anyones thoughts or opinions on this, more just expressing my personal feelings and mindset on it

- I'm speaking from the perspective of not seeing her past behaviour/other maf games, in that scenario did Ace sus and vote Tessa immediately? Or was it after being involved with some discussion with town? The repeating behaviour patterns are defo interesting, it's not something that I let influence my opinion (imo it's not fair for me to without going into that old mafia game and reading about it myself/ I would like to analyse that situation ur talking about myself) - I haven't gone in and read that mafia game mainly because I can't be bothered truthfully LMAO - but I have creds for u for going in and doing this and respect ur opinion, I think this is a case of we can both have differing opinions on this and that's ok

- I think she got the impression this was going to be a chill low commitment noob game (I also did initially which is why I signed up), ig to an extent I have sympathised with this assumption I've made (LOL) and honestly may have made my conclusions a little biased based on this, looking back, as I was also super busy with school things and completely understood how she felt as I was in the same position

- I don't blame u for still being a lil sus of me I totally get it lmao, I guess I'm just confident with my thoughts, I'm also in the position/mindset of "well nobody else rly believes me about my ability/there's still a lot of suspicion and unsureness surrounding me, so I may as well just let everything I think out because I kinda feel like I'm on my own rn LMAO (((which is fine I'm just trying to explain))) )" - I'm not trying to exclude others opinions, so far I just haven't personally been influenced by others, mainly because my ability stuff is solid/concrete for me

 

[Equity]

This is just a thought, but we may be able to determine who's part of Squirtle Squad or not based on each player's character? For instance, Kilza was Baby Mario whereas IonicKarma incarnated Baby Luigi. These don't seem to be Squirtle Squad roles.

Once we find out Mistreil's, Kattea's and thetessagrace's identity, this theory may hold (assuming shawo would give a "villain(ess)-like" role to Squirtle Squad members)? I think @BungoTheElf alluded to this by sussing Tessa! Say, one of them had a "villain(ess)-like" role, perhaps we could ascertain that they were part of Squirtle Squad?

 

[rosetti]

LOOKING AT MAFS CHOICES:

I think they were scared of Tessa's ability, it could have undone a lot of work if they tried to push a narrative with town to vote someone innocent - choosing to kill Kat AND Tessa may be because they both believed me in the Mistreil situation, which they did not like and chose to get rid of people that trusted me. This means the level of suspicion around me remains more so (if they tried for a push to vote me out)

AAA I FORGOT TO MENTION (and didn't want to edit my post)

I think mafia have also chosen to keep kiko alive due to the current suspicion surrounding them as well (similar to me)

 

[BungoTheElf]

I'm sus now????

all i can say is that all emolga siding with me and backing me up is on him LOL

Literally I thought tessa was sus so I shot her. Yes it was just with a gun, there is nothing more too it- I'm sorry if it seems weird compared to the other stuff but it's plain and simple.

Also rosie I never saw you comment on tessa's death post and my ideas around it, if you did I missed it but I thought it was pretty telling on her character and alignment this game. You just seem to really be relying on tessa being town for me and emolga to be scum together when I just don't see it (her being town) like you are really confident she was town????

I've been catching up on reading and making this post and I think I might get in trouble if I stay in the bathroom any longer. I hope you guys can do the right thing. I not be voting, even if u cant trust emolga I hope u guys can trust me LOL I don't know what I did to be further on rosie's sus list than anyone else

 

[shellbell]

@Equity i'm just waiting for hopefully kikotoot to show up and weigh in, but i'm not NOT sus of emolga and it seems the three of us (me, you, rosie) ALL have a common sus person: emolga

i still don't know how im going to vote yet. i think emolga's being super evasive

This is just a thought, but we may be able to determine who's part of Squirtle Squad or not based on each player's character? For instance, Kilza was Baby Mario whereas IonicKarma incarnated Baby Luigi. These don't seem to be Squirtle Squad roles.

Once we find out Mistreil's, Kattea's and thetessagrace's identity, this theory may hold (assuming shawo would give a "villain(ess)-like" role to Squirtle Squad members)? I think @BungoTheElf alluded to this by sussing Tessa! Say, one of them had a "villain(ess)-like" role, perhaps we could ascertain that they were part of Squirtle Squad?

I agree with that a LOT.

i'm leaning slightly more towards emolga actually now that i've thought about it. i feel like everything he's saying is meant to be a distraction and not the truth, cuz a lot of stuff either dont add up or is not clear.

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well i guess lynn doesn't trust emolga either lol so that's 4 against emolga

 

[Equity]

but I have creds for u for going in and doing this and respect ur opinion, I think this is a case of we can both have differing opinions on this and that's ok

Quickly to say that I respect your opinion as well (should have said it earlier in my posts, so I apologize about that)!

I think she got the impression this was going to be a chill low commitment noob game (I also did initially which is why I signed up),

I thought so too, rip me! I completely understand this perspective though (being busy, thinking it was a baby game) but what still strikes me is the character she hinted she was roleplaying... If she was roleplaying a "villain(ness)-like" character, can we still assume she's townie? This is just a thought, but no one can obviously answer this question with certainty until we find out last night "dead" players' characters! We'd be able to further this theory later on (assuming I stay alive).

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@Equity i'm just waiting for hopefully kikotoot to show up and weigh in, but i'm not NOT sus of emolga and it seems the three of us (me, you, rosie) ALL have a common sus person: emolga

i still don't know how im going to vote yet. i think emolga's being super evasive

[shellbell quoting me: sus character theory]

I agree with that a LOT.

i'm leaning slightly more towards emolga actually now that i've thought about it. i feel like everything he's saying is meant to be a distraction and not the truth, cuz a lot of stuff either dont add up or is not clear.

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well i guess lynn doesn't trust emolga either lol so that's 4 against emolga

I'm hoping for that too, but @kikotoot didn't wake up in time last time to vote, so I'm starting to give up on that hope!

So either Lynn = townie & going with the flow? OR Lynn = Squirtle Squad & throwing Emolga under the bus, sees no hope of Emolga redemption + no time because working?

Emolga hasn't been saying anything in his defense, so I'm leaning towards Emolga too... @shellbell, if you could point out a few things that don't add up in @Emolga59's claims, it would be much appreciated!

 

[shellbell]

emolga said he probably wouldn't be back to post anymore today, i don't want to call sus on him having a life lol

i will look for some things that did not add up but not sure if i'll have the time before night

i think whether lynn is squirtle squad or not it's a safe bet to eliminate emolga so i think i will vote emolga

 

[rosetti]

I'm sus now????

all i can say is that all emolga siding with me and backing me up is on him LOL

Literally I thought tessa was sus so I shot her. Yes it was just with a gun, there is nothing more too it- I'm sorry if it seems weird compared to the other stuff but it's plain and simple.

Also rosie I never saw you comment on tessa's death post and my ideas around it, if you did I missed it but I thought it was pretty telling on her character and alignment this game. You just seem to really be relying on tessa being town for me and emolga to be scum together when I just don't see it (her being town) like you are really confident she was town????

I've been catching up on reading and making this post and I think I might get in trouble if I stay in the bathroom any longer. I hope you guys can do the right thing. I not be voting, even if u cant trust emolga I hope u guys can trust me LOL I don't know what I did to be further on rosie's sus list than anyone else

I did read it and unfortunately it didn't really change my opinion at all I'm sorry, to me it was a bit of a stretch as Tessa's reactions to posts could allude to literally anything (she heart reacted Kat's death post saying 'mafia feel that threatened by us') - this could mean she agrees with kat in the sense she's a townie and is seeing it from that perspective, or if she was mafia she's '''''confirming''''' mafia think that - again, it's too much of a stretch to add any credibility imo especially compared against my thoughts on Tessa and Mistreil not both being mafia/squirtle squad members

 

[Equity]

emolga said he probably wouldn't be back to post anymore today, i don't want to call sus on him having a life lol

i will look for some things that did not add up but not sure if i'll have the time before night

i think whether lynn is squirtle squad or not it's a safe bet to eliminate emolga so i think i will vote emolga

This was just a thought about Lynn, but I do agree that Emolga may be the safest bet right now!

 

[kikotoot]

Surprise! I actually set a timer (not an alarm, as for some reason my phone alarms don't work), to wake me up after a few hours so I could see what went down this morn

I don't have too too much to add but wanted to say, 10/10 on those posts rosie^ the Emolga/Bungo situation evaluation is v agreeable/sensicle (and tbh they were one of the duos I also considered possibly being left in the game, as I also feel like there are 2 mafia left, but I never put it together the same way you did). Your whole thing is a very mafia-esque analysis, while mine so far have kinda just been considering scenarios. I don't mean mafia-esque like from the perspective of a squirtle, more just like, in the context of the game, Mafia.

Emolga has kinda been on my sussy list since v early on in the game, so I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up being one of the, or the remaining squirtle.

I tried picturing the different ways tonight's elimination could go, and I'm not too sure if any one of us is a more favorable target in terms of maintaining townie strength, as lots of things are contingent on more than just this night. If the next two nights happen in our favour, though (some townies might have to game a little), we might get lucky.

My vote for today would be no elim, cuz a wrong elim would lose us the game, and I haven't seen too too much downside in waiting for tomorrow, assuming we're all ability-ed out.

I might add more to this if there's time (it took me from 11:30 to now to come up with this short thing), but that's my current stance on things. I don't think rosie is completely out of the picture, but I think Emolga and Lynn being a duo is consistent with the events of this game as well.

 

[rosetti]

This is just a thought, but we may be able to determine who's part of Squirtle Squad or not based on each player's character? For instance, Kilza was Baby Mario whereas IonicKarma incarnated Baby Luigi. These don't seem to be Squirtle Squad roles.

Once we find out Mistreil's, Kattea's and thetessagrace's identity, this theory may hold (assuming shawo would give a "villain(ess)-like" role to Squirtle Squad members)? I think @BungoTheElf alluded to this by sussing Tessa! Say, one of them had a "villain(ess)-like" role, perhaps we could ascertain that they were part of Squirtle Squad?

a lil late but I think this actually has credibility/ a type of confirmation, that being townies are mario characters
this will be super useful when tessa & kats roles are revealed and can hopefully confirm if they were mafia or not!