Mafia CHATBOT MAFIA...Chapter 5: The Glitch... ENDGAME?

Aight so there is a specific game link in question that I was referencing a lot during D1: https://www.belltreeforums.com/threads/american-politics-mafia-game-over-town-wins.444302/

In that game a third party becomes town by winning a vote. Not the same thing as is happening here but I thought it was a good analogy

At the start I was hoping to collaborate with Dan regardless of alignment, so I laid down a few quotes specifically referencing Ness in this game bc it was a good analogy that I wanted him to pick up that I was confident no one else would. I thought he was mafia at the time but was still open to collaboration.
Dan can I convince you to vote for me instead of Betsy? Think of Ness in Trundles political mafia thing
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Sorting people, ignoring Raven

Dolby
Kiko
Tessa
Betsy
Frosty
Dan

Yeah I’m still where I’m at last night
Dan trust, I hope you remember the game that I referenced earlier, but it appears that you don't, which is sad. Actually I'm not 100% sure you were in it tbh but eh, that situation had by far the strongest parallel

During the night phase I was hoping to send signals back and forth that we were willing to collaborate on a future day, and the item did play a part in it. Unfortunately I can't talk about the item however the item did lead to us coming to an understanding of collaboration, which is why we both came into the thread townreading each other. He also understood that he could buy my loyalty with item votes
i will do some reading tomorrow but yes I am willing to work with dolby and that includes the item vote

this is correct
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reading the thread i’m pretty sure the mafia is between betsy kiko and frosty. but from everyone’s thoughts/confidence of power rules/item usage, it doesn’t seem like frosty has that much knowledge on it. similar to tessa d1, im not getting any sense at frosty having tmi. i think they’re just town tbh

i read the political mafia game and don’t think it’s dolby. i’m also leaning towards the item vote bc of it

my elim vote is between kiko and betsy. i think they had the most sketch EoDs. I reallyyyyy don’t like kiko’s constant prodding of role powers, when at many points i feel it unnecessary. And with Betsy, while i think i understand what’s she’s currently implying as to why she needs the item, it doesn’t really match up with the behavior of d1 imo. i also kind it just really weird how the two just swapped votes on each other. idk what to make of that yet but I just think the maf is between them
In the above he confirms the countersignal I made, and a signal that I made earlier indicating that I was bribable with item votes

like, i understand that you TR kiko rn betsy. but there’s no mechanical way of proving they’re town? i’m confused on the goal of the coordinated move
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for the item does it matter who gets it
Dan signalling to me to ask if I'm bribable

I am but a simple beggar seeking this fine village's items, he is the true villain here!

Sorry Dan but I gotta look out for number one and the way the votes are coming down, honestly I feel that we could have gotten one of kiko or frosty to vote the other but it just seems really unlikely but this is just the safest play for me.
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@BetsySundrop I am attempting to expose the true villain here, might I pine thy for a vote for item and a vote off of myself.

As for why I stopped advocating for an item on myself like an hour ago, yeah that would've just been a super bad look
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Betsy there is no reason why we can't win together, might we collaborate now and end this game
 
Aight so there is a specific game link in question that I was referencing a lot during D1: https://www.belltreeforums.com/threads/american-politics-mafia-game-over-town-wins.444302/

In that game a third party becomes town by winning a vote. Not the same thing as is happening here but I thought it was a good analogy

At the start I was hoping to collaborate with Dan regardless of alignment, so I laid down a few quotes specifically referencing Ness in this game bc it was a good analogy that I wanted him to pick up that I was confident no one else would. I thought he was mafia at the time but was still open to collaboration.



During the night phase I was hoping to send signals back and forth that we were willing to collaborate on a future day, and the item did play a part in it. Unfortunately I can't talk about the item however the item did lead to us coming to an understanding of collaboration, which is why we both came into the thread townreading each other. He also understood that he could buy my loyalty with item votes



In the above he confirms the countersignal I made, and a signal that I made earlier indicating that I was bribable with item votes


Dan signalling to me to ask if I'm bribable

I am but a simple beggar seeking this fine village's items, he is the true villain here!

Sorry Dan but I gotta look out for number one and the way the votes are coming down, honestly I feel that we could have gotten one of kiko or frosty to vote the other but it just seems really unlikely but this is just the safest play for me.

Do you honestly think that signaling was missed?

Here's the ultimate summation fmp.

I am town.
Kiko is town.
Frosty is town.

Dan is a dirty wolf.
You are a dirty tp.

If you and dan die, town wins.

It seems pretty simple to me.
 
I think that it's also worth noting that Dan is pretty much the only one who hasn't claimed (Frosty did something that may as well have been a claim tbh) he said that he made a soft to a town role in thread but if he has I haven't seen it
 
@Dolby
If townies win after voting Dan out, how is this post playing to your win condition?
I did suspect that there was a third party, either dan being something like a tanner or you being something related to needing x amount of items, but thought that was too farfetched ngl.
but yeah my question stands, can you justify giving yourself up in this manor as playing to your win condition?
 
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Do you honestly think that signaling was missed?

Here's the ultimate summation fmp.

I am town.
Kiko is town.
Frosty is town.

Dan is a dirty wolf.
You are a dirty tp.

If you and dan die, town wins.

It seems pretty simple to me.
yeah but if he dies, we win together

look you can get Dan first, because he actually has the ability to kill

and if the game continues you can just me off

but the game isn't going to actually continue because it's going to at the end of today if he gets voted off
 
I think that it's also worth noting that Dan is pretty much the only one who hasn't claimed (Frosty did something that may as well have been a claim tbh) he said that he made a soft to a town role in thread but if he has I haven't seen it

You think these were missed? Seeing frosty's allusion was the xtra icing on the cake to reveal. If frosty knew kiko and I were town, we could escape the quagmire of dirty wolf and tp mud we were all drowning in.
 
@Dolby
If townies win after voting Dan out, how is this post playing to your win condition?
I did suspect that there was a third party, either dan being something like a tanner or you being something related to needing x amount of items, but thought that was too farfetched ngl.
but yeah my question stands, can you justify giving yourself up in this manor as playing to your win condition?
I can justify this as playing to my win condition I feel
 
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PLEASE LIKE THIS POST SO I KNOW YOU ACKNOWLEDGED THIS.
YOU'RE SCARING ME BIANCA
 
You think these were missed? Seeing frosty's allusion was the xtra icing on the cake to reveal. If frosty knew kiko and I were town, we could escape the quagmire of dirty wolf and tp mud we were all drowning in.
betsy

look

I can win with you

there is no reason to vote me out before Dan

If Dan gets voted out first, game ends, we all walk away with a w
 
so dolby is just a wolf lying. a third party literally makes no sense
I think a 5v1v1 makes more sense than a 6v1 with this much town power, but I know you have to look out for number 1 as well
 
@kikotoot
@FrostyAlmonds

This is super important.

You know what this dolby post makes me think? I mean, if he's being honest about third party.🙄

Third party often has a win condition that is separate from maf and/or town. If they win, they don't win for town. They win for themselves.

7 player game-

5 town
1 maf
1 third party

The only way to win as town is to win with town.

There is no way there would be 2 maf in a game with only 5 town and a tp.

Therefore...I believe dolby has confirmed frosty's townieness.

My towncore - kiko, myself, frosty.

Sorry like I said I'm not fully here atm (I will try to reply to any thing you quote/ping me, but I'm making dinner akbdka)

I feel like I'm missing a lot. But wow, I'm just like, this has developed into something crazy. I would believe this yeah, there is no way it's two maf and a third party? And if Dan and Dolby have been playing each other this whole time it's just??? I really did fall for that item thing yeesh, guys I really suck at this game. I'm sorry I have been sabotaging us. all from the start.
 
I think that it's also worth noting that Dan is pretty much the only one who hasn't claimed (Frosty did something that may as well have been a claim tbh) he said that he made a soft to a town role in thread but if he has I haven't seen it
once i claim my role is meaningless
 
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