Mafia CHATBOT MAFIA...Chapter 5: The Glitch... ENDGAME?

[FrostyAlmonds]

Wait no, also want to ask this from now before I forget or it get's lost. If I'm understanding right, Kiko, why didn't you insist on keeping the vote on Betsy over yourself? She's the one you would want to have immunity between the two of you no?

Sorry I'm skim reading atm, I'll be here closer to 7pm. ><

 

[Dolby]

I mean Betsy, if we just vote you the item (and Kiko joins in) you survive the rest of the game unless mafia survive today, and their kills fails tonight (the second part of which is very likely).

And even if you dont get the item I think it's possible that there are other ways for you to survive tonight

 

[BetsySundrop]

Or kiko is a liar and Betsy dies but then we know it's Kiko

You serious? Betsy is gonna die and kiko is town. When betsy dies, kiko will still be town! Mayor has conditions. If you gave me the item before my reveal, I might live. But now, no way...I'll be dead tonight.

I protected Kikotoot

From what?

 

[Dolby]

You serious? Betsy is gonna die and kiko is town. When betsy dies, kiko will still be town! Mayor has conditions. If you gave me the item before my reveal, I might live. But now, no way...I'll be dead tonight.


From what?

death

aight im ngl I didn't pick up on the part that you died regardless of what was happening

 

[BetsySundrop]

@kikotoot

Will you have immunity if you have the item?

You need to take the item tonight.

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No. I don't get immunity after my reveal. Which is why i tried so hard to get it before....

I mean Betsy, if we just vote you the item (and Kiko joins in) you survive the rest of the game unless mafia survive today, and their kills fails tonight (the second part of which is very likely).

And even if you dont get the item I think it's possible that there are other ways for you to survive tonight

 

[Damniel]

dolby, were you aware of the potential for this scenario?

 

[Dolby]

dolby, were you aware of the potential for this scenario?

nope

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I thought that Betsy was alluding to being a JOAT

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Dan where's your head at in regard to Kiko's claim

It's probably just Frosty by default I feel? would probably make sense cause otherwise there's just extremely excessive protective abilities

to be clear I was not told I was given immunity with the item

 

[Damniel]

nope

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I thought that Betsy was alluding to being a JOAT

JOAT with a confirmed cop and vig?

 

[Dolby]

JOAT with a confirmed cop and vig?

yeah, which is a big reason why I didnt trust her

 

[Damniel]

nope

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I thought that Betsy was alluding to being a JOAT

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Dan where's your head at in regard to Kiko's claim

It's probably just Frosty by default I feel? would probably make sense cause otherwise there's just extremely excessive protective abilities

to be clear I was not told I was given immunity with the item

i thought kiko was alluding to being a roleblocker. i did not know that a heal/item vote role existed

there’s really no way of verifying kiko’s claim anyway besides betsy believing them. ig for now we take it at face value

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but kiko’s role claim is so unique and out there i don’t really think it’s made up. it would be a wild tinfoil if it was

 

[BetsySundrop]

re: me/Dan theory

Look I'm gonna be blunt, I think if Raven didn't exist the wagons would have been me/Dan yesterday, me pushing Dan the way that I did as maf/maf especially at the times with no alternatives having been presented besides Raven who could have come back easily is just a losing proposition and not something that I do.

Not that I wouldn't push a teammate as mafia, I would, but I would never on day one push a teammate in that manner. Has to much of a possibility to lead to them going out on d1

Psh...I would. It's the perfect distancing technique.

 

[Damniel]

i don’t get why kiko had to claim their role alongside betsy

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@BetsySundrop can you elaborate your play between you and kiko? i still don’t entirely get it. are they able to save you?

 

[Dolby]

kiko says at varying points in the game

1. he wants to prevent a vote split in the item vote
2. was super into me specifically getting the power
3. has a few d1 posts that I think make MORE sense knowing that whoever he votes for if they win the item will get protection (225 is one, because he wants to stack items and PRs like I did on me)
4. Shows some willingness to vote for the other person with power votes in 230, and then also says he's willing to give Tessa the item if other people are down. Also this does match with how he felt about the item going to himself

Was really just thinking back to baby park where townies were setup to really benefit from being able to coordinate and plan powers around one-another, I do get your stance though ye. My thinking is: winning the power paints enough a target on his back already, so, if anything, we're only controlling the mafia's first kill (and if he doesn't die, then we think abt that tomorrow).

Actually, @Biancasbotique, if you win an item vote, can you use it same-night?

can totally see this tbh

my main problem with this is that he didn't vote Frosty but eh he might have been lining up for a last second vote switch if neccessary

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i don’t get why kiko had to claim their role alongside betsy

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@BetsySundrop can you elaborate your play between you and kiko? i still don’t entirely get it. are they able to save you?

betsy apparently dies the night after they reveal as mayor

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Dan where are you thinking your vote ends up rn?

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Psh...I would. It's the perfect distancing technique.

eh I'm pretty sure that if Raven came back Dan would've gone out and I'd be hte counterwagon

 

[BetsySundrop]

i don’t get why kiko had to claim their role alongside betsy

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@BetsySundrop can you elaborate your play between you and kiko? i still don’t entirely get it. are they able to save you?

Well, basically, we figured out that the most likely scenario was that dolby was a dirty wolf and you were his most likely partner.

We both decided to take the leap and trust our vibes on each other instead of trusting y'all's strong sus reads on us.

Looks like it's worked out well so far.

 

[Damniel]

like, i understand that you TR kiko rn betsy. but there’s no mechanical way of proving they’re town? i’m confused on the goal of the coordinated move

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Dan where are you thinking your vote ends up rn?

for the item does it matter who gets it

 

[Dolby]

I wouldn't call Kiko believable tbh. Especially given he wasn't lining up to vote Frosty

But I can see it possible with some microreactions. mainly with his goal to prevent a vote split at the start of d1

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er, confirmed instead of believable

 

[BetsySundrop]

like, i understand that you TR kiko rn betsy. but there’s no mechanical way of proving they’re town? i’m confused on the goal of the coordinated move

Psh...kiko proved town if you read this day's posts closely.

Dolby has proven himself a dirty, dirty wolf (ha ha tessa, you can laugh if I'm wrong, but it's gotta be dolby...). I hope kiko joins me in voting to elim dolby, because he did suggest it, after all...

 

[Dolby]

Psh...kiko proved town if you read this day's posts closely.

Dolby has proven himself a dirty, dirty wolf (ha ha tessa, you can laugh if I'm wrong, but it's gotta be dolby...). I hope kiko joins me in voting to elim dolby, because he did suggest it, after all...

why's it me and not Dan

 

[BetsySundrop]

I wouldn't call Kiko believable tbh. Especially given he wasn't lining up to vote Frosty

But I can see it possible with some microreactions. mainly with his goal to prevent a vote split at the start of d1

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er, confirmed instead of believable

Wow, this is so interesting. We have a massive town advantage, and here we have two of the three unconfirmed town trying to push doubt and poke holes rather than strategize what to do with the advantage.

It's not a good look....

 

[Dolby]

like, i understand that you TR kiko rn betsy. but there’s no mechanical way of proving they’re town? i’m confused on the goal of the coordinated move

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for the item does it matter who gets it

eh I'd still like it tbh but I don't think that going for it is worth it rn