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Ferguson: Your Thoughts.

Do you believe that Officer Darren Wilson is guilty?

  • Yes

    Votes: 103 64.4%
  • No

    Votes: 31 19.4%
  • I do not know

    Votes: 32 20.0%

  • Total voters
    160
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so why is this even a thread besides to inform people there's not really discussion more like debate when there is plenty of reasons the officer should be charged with murder

but whatever
-SH

Tone back the sass. People agree with the officer, people agree with the suspect. It's a two way thing and just how it is. Above was my opinion. Not fact. Opinion does not a fact make, and that's why we have a thread.
 
No snipping required. It's a good post.

Honestly I'm more concerned with the case itself being something I don't feel I can judge with lack of eyewitness. Not the protests. The protests are probably the real tragedy out of all of this. It's both sides in these un-peaceful protests that's causing a lot of problems, but it does come down to people believing they have to martyr at some points or cause destruction and death worse than the incident between the officer and the suspect to make a point.

It's just gotten entirely out of hand, and that's a damn shame.

There are and have been peaceful protests for 4 months on. With all due respect there were the blood and crips protecting local business..blood and crips for god sakes. Not to mention the community (protestors included) cleaning up. Looting is wrong I 100% agree but when you've been peaceful protesting while being tear gassed, pushed round, and jailed, and then after all that the man who has gotten a million dollars out of this, walks away with NO jail time. You bet your oranges theres going to be hysteria and chaos for one night. One night of chaos overshadows 4 months of protesting peacefully? Teargassing citizens??? Please tell me how that is fair.

Also eyewitness? There were a few who said his hands were up and that Darren did not report to the convient store for a robbery at all.

Yes you may not be able to judge due to lack of knowledge but the information is out there and so are all the eyewitness accounts.
 
No snipping required. It's a good post.

Honestly I'm more concerned with the case itself being something I don't feel I can judge with lack of eyewitness. Not the protests. The protests are probably the real tragedy out of all of this. It's both sides in these un-peaceful protests that's causing a lot of problems, but it does come down to people believing they have to martyr at some points or cause destruction and death worse than the incident between the officer and the suspect to make a point.

It's just gotten entirely out of hand, and that's a damn shame.

I completely agree on this. Killing is horrible, but these riots were even worse. Especially for the reason being.
 
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There are and have been peaceful protests for 4 months on. With all due respect there were the blood and crips protecting local business..blood and crips for god sakes. Not to mention the community (protestors included) cleaning up. Looting is wrong I 100% agree but when you've been peaceful protesting while being tear gassed, pushed round, and jailed, and then after all that the man who has gotten a million dollars out of this, walks away with NO jail time. You bet your oranges theres going to be hysteria and chaos for one night. One night of chaos overshadows 4 months of protesting peacefully? Teargassing citizens??? Please tell me how that is fair.

Also eyewitness? There were a few who said his hands were up and that Darren did not report to the convient store for a robbery at all.

Yes you may not be able to judge due to lack of knowledge but the information is out there and so are all the eyewitness accounts.

Keep in mind it's not only the protesters causing problems. There are people outside the protesters that were causing damages and issues during that four month period. It all comes back to being blamed on the protesters because they were the ones out facing down the police at the time, regardless of it being peaceful or not.

Alright, since there were eyewitness accounts of it then it is more accountable. I wasn't aware of that fact (and I'm not in a state where I can dig through sources right now or I would be.) I'm still not comfortable saying what did or did not happen.

Also:
I completely agree on this. Killing is horrible, but these riots were even worse. Especially for the reason being. This is the worst thing that happened in America in the 21st century.

No it's not.
 
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Tone back the sass. People agree with the officer, people agree with the suspect. It's a two way thing and just how it is. Above was my opinion. Not fact. Opinion does not a fact make, and that's why we have a thread.

I can't help it I'm a sassy diva

I know it's a two way thing different people can have different opinions but honestly if the victim was unarmed and not being threatening at all and the officer could escape if he could he shouldn't have shoot him at all and 6 times at the head it sounded like he wanted to kill him and make up an excuse
 
The whole issue that people are protesting is not whether or not Darren Wilson should be found guilty of something, but whether or not he should at least stand trial for what he did. Whether Michael Brown's death at the hands of a cop should be given due process. It should be noted that the grand jury failing to indict hardly ever happens. (x) (There are also primary sources linked in this article for anyone interested)

This video outlines what enormous, dire "mistakes" that were made during the jury's deliberation provided by the prosecutors, such as giving them outdated laws to consider that had been ruled as unconstitutional since 1985.
 
Darren Wilson is guilty, no question.

Even ignoring the obvious race issue at hand, the fact that officers are allowed to shoot to kill without so much as a second thought is absolutely sickening.


If the officer must shoot, first and foremost they should shoot to incapacitate. Shooting to kill should only be used in dire situations, which I don't ever recall this being one that warranted it.


Not to mention, I hate how Wilson was on paid leave or whatever as well during the time this was going down. His police section should of also had to face charges for that imo.
 
Keep in mind it's not only the protesters causing problems. There are people outside the protesters that were causing damages and issues during that four month period. It all comes back to being blamed on the protesters because they were the ones out facing down the police at the time, regardless of it being peaceful or not.

Alright, since there were eyewitness accounts of it then it is more accountable. I wasn't aware of that fact (and I'm not in a state where I can dig through sources right now or I would be.) I'm still not comfortable saying what did or did not happen.

Also:


No it's not.

I agree it is not I honestly think the worst thing so far is the school shooting sometime about 2013 all those little kids died :(
 
Keep in mind it's not only the protesters causing problems. There are people outside the protesters that were causing damages and issues during that four month period. It all comes back to being blamed on the protesters because they were the ones out facing down the police at the time, regardless of it being peaceful or not.

Alright, since there were eyewitness accounts of it then it is more accountable. I wasn't aware of that fact (and I'm not in a state where I can dig through sources right now or I would be.) I'm still not comfortable saying what did or did not happen.

Also:


No it's not.

Are you referring to august when that other looting incident occurred? That was bad, not as bad as the night D*rren was set free but yes. I agree, and it's sad that protestors have to deal with that. There are tons of live streams out there of the protest. I've seen the reporters tear gassed and cussed at. I remember one night the SWAT team was out there when all they were doing was chanting. ****s crazy. I also want to applaud you for not making an uninformed opinion until you have read the sources and have come to a conclusion yourself. I hope I didn't come off to strong but I do understand your points and agree with them for the most part.
 
ugh this thread makes the usa sound like a horrible place but it is I want to move to the uk

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I would want to move to the japan but I'm not good at learning languages I failed at both Spanish and french
 
But why are people demonizing these protests when there have been numerous worse riots started by white people after sports games lol (x)
 
To be honest, I don't know and I honestly couldn't care less at this point. Call me whenever this is over.
 
Are you referring to august when that other looting incident occurred? That was bad, not as bad as the night D*rren was set free but yes. I agree, and it's sad that protestors have to deal with that. There are tons of live streams out there of the protest. I've seen the reporters tear gassed and cussed at. I remember one night the SWAT team was out there when all they were doing was chanting. ****s crazy. I also want to applaud you for not making an uninformed opinion until you have read the sources and have come to a conclusion yourself. I hope I didn't come off to strong but I do understand your points and agree with them for the most part.

I remember the streams. Gallows and I watched all of them.

Again, a lot of the stuff you didn't see was some of the stuff I'm talking about. The national guard was out there for more than just the protesters, and the peaceful ones were the people that got the short end of the stick. This whole situation reminds me of the OJ case and the East side/West side skirmish from the 90's. It was just like this. The only difference was it wasn't an officer that was involved. There were protests, riots, and nothing stopped for a very long time.

As I said before, it's just a damn shame.

Also gamercat stay on topic or leave.

But why are people demonizing these protests when there have been numerous worse riots started by white people after sports games lol (x)

I'd demonize those too. They're not right either. I can also gaurentee you that not every person in those riots were white.
 
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I remember the streams. Gallows and I watched all of them.

Again, a lot of the stuff you didn't see was some of the stuff I'm talking about. The national guard was out there for more than just the protesters, and the peaceful ones were the people that got the short end of the stick. This whole situation reminds me of the OJ case and the East side/West side skirmish from the 90's. It was just like this. The only difference was it wasn't an officer that was involved. There were protests, riots, and nothing stopped for a very long time.

As I said before, it's just a damn shame.

Also gamercat stay on topic or leave.
damn it Jamie
but the protesters should have not protested to that extent it's like nobody in the us knows what a peaceful protest is they should have taken this up maturely
 
damn it Jamie
but the protesters should have not protested to that extent it's like nobody in the us knows what a peaceful protest is they should have taken this up maturely

That's not exactly true. The "occupy wal street" movement was completely peaceful.
 
But why are people demonizing these protests when there have been numerous worse riots started by white people after sports games lol (x)

I was going to keep it cute but lets go
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and 2 keep it with OP, how are these better than people chanting over an injustice death? Now granted these morons deal with ridicule and police but then again they're rioting over a game..and not someones death.
 
Nice, another Ferguson thread.
Accidentally voted "IDK" when I voted yes. Oops.

I'm angry that this is trying to be covered up. Tumblr staff and youtube are deleting stuff related to Ferguson. Posts have been circulating where there's proof of Wilson having ties with the KKK. A day later? Deleted. Dox of KKK members? Deleted. But when trans/queer youth get doxed? Staff doesn't give a ****. Staff doesn't give a **** about child porn on people's blogs either. It's even worse that in Boston rn they are targeting queer/trans POC who are protesting atm.

Wilson is guilty. He murdered a kid. Do not bring in weight and height because they were literally the same anyway. Brown was killed for jaywalking, are you kidding me? He did not steal. There is film evidence he paid for his cigarettes. But even if he did steal, Wilson would've had no knowledge of that.

Brown was not a criminal. His teachers have spoken about him, and he was described as sweet. Hell, he didn't join the football team even tho he could because he didn't want to hurt anyone. He was a child. He was innocent. But it doesn't matter if he was an angel or not. No matter what, his life still mattered. He did not put his hands on Wilson. He never attacked Wilson. Wilson has no injuries, but he's claiming the birthmark on the back of his neck is an injury so lol.

Protests have been mostly peaceful. It's just the anarchists causing **** as always, because anarchy man! Or it's people from neighboring towns who are using this as a chance to steal.

But I'm honestly sick by some of you. He was a child. No one deserves to get shot 7 times and then to have their body left out in the street. Brown is not the first to die from police brutality, and he isn't the last. If you honestly don't think this has anything to do with race, then wow. I've heard the argument "HOW COME NO ONE TALKS ABOUT BLACK ON WHITE OR BLACK ON BLACK CRIME?!" uh maybe because most of the time in those cases they're brought to justice? white on black crime is a huge problem.

A 12 year old black boy was shot for holding a toy gun. (He didn't ****ing aim it at the police.) His name was Tamir Rice. And already, I see people justifying his death. A 12 year old gets shot and people are congratulating the ****ing police. Tell me this isn't racism at it's finest.

Or how about when 12 year old Dymond Milburn was severely beaten by 3 police officers because they thought she was a sex worker? They caused her injuries to her spine, neck, and head. She was later charged with assault and one of the cops were rewarded with "cop of the year" award. I don't give a **** if she maybe fought back, it was one little 12 year old girl vs 3 grown men with weapons. In what world does that ****ing make sense.

Black people are targeted by cops. It's a thing. How people choose to ignore it astounds me. There's proof of him being somewhat connected to the ****ing KKK. His supporters are tied to the KKK and he can be seen talking to them. The ****ing KKK started a gofundme fund for him and got MORE money than the MICHAEL BROWN MEMORIAL FUND did. I'm even more ****ing disgusted people are PAYING to interview him. There are people below the poverty line who will never make as much as him, but he ****ing gets paid in hundreds for murdering a young black boy.

If this doesn't anger you, then I don't know what to say to you.
 
That's not exactly true. The "occupy wal street" movement was completely peaceful.

I know I exaggerating but look at those now they look horrible with the deaths and injuries and such then compare them to the peaceful ones the numbers are very different obviously
 
I remember the streams. Gallows and I watched all of them.

Again, a lot of the stuff you didn't see was some of the stuff I'm talking about. The national guard was out there for more than just the protesters, and the peaceful ones were the people that got the short end of the stick. This whole situation reminds me of the OJ case and the East side/West side skirmish from the 90's. It was just like this. The only difference was it wasn't an officer that was involved. There were protests, riots, and nothing stopped for a very long time.

As I said before, it's just a damn shame.

Also gamercat stay on topic or leave.



I'd demonize those too. They're not right either. I can also gaurentee you that not every person in those riots were white.

Can I ask a serious question? What would want the protestors to do? Based on the answers you've responded with I'm kinda confused where you're coming from. Do you think they should still peacefully protest or?
 
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