Hello, yes, I am here after lurking for something like 3 hours on and off, and finally able to address my thoughts towards the thread. Since Kirby asked, I think that waffles is the most likely person to be scum if I'm wrong on Evan/Glow because I can envision him on more viable scumteams (namely Chick (second most viable scumteam I feel) and Mog).
Now as for Glow, she's made one major post which I view as being substantial, but there's also the way that she acted around EOD1 which bothers me. TBC, I'm down for a Glow lynch tomorrow, but I still feel and think that Evan is a higher priority. Let's start with a rundown of her ISO, this time, due to post volume, I'm going to leave out stuff that is irrelevant to the game and reads in general
ok so far i think evan is town
bianca doesn't seem town to me
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evans thoughtfulness, tone & defense is really well put
i think it's weird dolby susses evan over bianca
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why specifically third party? i was town in that game
we can lynch kirby bianca or waffles so
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waffles/bianca is fine w me
why do you think bianca is town
her posts are completely different from botw
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SLIP
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it's DAY only MAFIA is concerned about night
I find it kinda telling that she goes out of her way to townread Evan, but I'll brush aside it as I can see legitimate town motivations for doing so. It's her treatment of Bianca and waffles which particularly bothers me. Over the course of this roughly 2 hours time period, Glow mentions Bianca probably in half of her posts and touches on waffles ONCE. Once. After her most recent post(these are in order from oldest to newest), which barely details Bianca's play, but also solidifies a stance in which it's clear that Bianca is her top target. However, 8 minutes later
Glow said:
And just leaves, failing to post until about 10 minutes after the day has ended.
Even if you take into account Glow's reads post, in which she says she's fine with Kirby, Bianca, and waffles, the other two of which were the top two lynch targets, she ends up voting for waffles. This would be her chance to actually influence the lynch, with the difference between the two being only one vote, but she essentially throws her vote away. I believe that this is to intentionally to avoid fallout from an voting town, coupled with her refusal to explain her vote
There is one reason which I doubt this. My primary suspicion is that Glow and Evan are scum together, but what is Glow is intentionally bad to avoid being maf killed, which I did last game? In which case she's a survival oriented role and not really a threat to us. But her refusal to cast a vote to which had impact makes me doubt this, as she could intentionally solidify herself as not a threat to the mafia that way. But let's move on to Glow's N1 substance
N1 for Glow so far is really defined by attempting to solve the puzzle rather than scumhunt. With a majority of posts being trying to find the answer to the puzzle, and a few halfheartedly saying that Bianca slipped while later retracting that. She did have one post of substance though, which I have significant problems with
i don't want to give any excuses but yeah i've just been busy and also lazy ....... but i'm town i pinky promise
and i would not break a pinky promise
quick reads incase night ends before i can do a real post
1. Kirbystarship
2. Mary - your posts are really tentative and you seem very careful. hesitant to say anything too shocking & almost robotic. if this is because you're new, just relax and don't be afraid to say things. unless ur maf then yes fear me...rawr... and pro tip if you ever say anything you regret just pretend it was a reaction test :^)
3. amazonevan19
4. mogyay
5. Dolby weird tr of bianca
6. Chick - i cant read chick lmao but i think they sound somewhat similar to last game
7. Heyden - i think he's town but i donut know why
8. ITookYourWaffles - i have a really strong gut feeling that he's mafia and i don't know how else to put it. that's why i voted him over bianca. in one of his first couple posts i think he tried to fish for blue roles. i just see 0 reason to say that as town. my problem is that i don't know if waffles would defend bianca so heavily if she was actually her partner. i want to lynch waffles over bianca because if waffles is scum then it'll help with reading bianca
mafia frequently ask others questions like this, questions that really don't lead anywhere. town ask questions because they're trying to figure someone out but these questions feel empty. it's like there was no really thought surrounding them. there wasn't a pursuit of actual information, especially the second one. why would peichi be okay with someone voting them? of course peichi would say something defensive of themself. i honestly don't see what answer could be gained from this question and it feels like he just wanted to seem like he was participating
9. peichi
10. Biancasbotique - not playing at all how she started botw. last game i tr'd her tone a lot, calm bubbly and carefree. this game her posts are serious, very inhibited and almost guided. you can tell she's overly conscientious of people's opinions of her. most likely not scum with waffles. likelier town than waffles
11. Sataric
1. Glow earlier said that she was ok with a Kirby lynch, and then backed down.
If she is town and believed Kirby to be more towny than bianca at the time of her vote, I think she would have used it to take majority off of Kirby and place it onto Bianca, as waffles was entirely infeasible at said point in time
2. There is no way that that was a bluefish from waffles. Yes, waffles definetely could be scum, but there's no way that was intentional, as it was so ineffectual
3.
Glow knows for a fact that Sataric is a strong player, capable of hiding whether he is town or mafia effectively.
He is also her only townlock after playing with relatively lower skill players for months. If she's so confident in Sataric, why would she be less confident in her other reads? This leads me to believe that this is a pocketing attempt.
If you can't see how Evan links to Glow, you need glasses
As for Evan, his latest activity hasn't made him seem town to me either, as the primary instinct of new players is to aim for a mislynch. Thus Kirby/Heyden/Bianca could, in theory, be possible, but not a team of two. If Kirby and Heyden weren't at each others throats for half of it. Moreover, he's mentioned maybe 5 people this entire cycle.
