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Okay I lied, I just love her avatar, but I don't have a read. sorry
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Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)
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Arstotzkan
A scum mom
I feel like I'm being piggy backed off of 
@epona idk Abe's got a sense of authority to the way he speaks. If someone usually more confident goes quiet on memeing then yeah that's AI but as is I could easily see it being just being intimidated by the presence/authority he brings every time he posts. Something to note ye but I don't think it's pingworthy yet
ah okay nice
Ronishy, what about that post is pinging you?
@epona idk Abe's got a sense of authority to the way he speaks. If someone usually more confident goes quiet on memeing then yeah that's AI but as is I could easily see it being just being intimidated by the presence/authority he brings every time he posts. Something to note ye but I don't think it's pingworthy yet
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ah okay nice
Ronishy, what about that post is pinging you?
MyLifeIsCake
~Impossomble~
Like I said, any posting is good posting for D1. Even if it's just memeing, it's interesting to see which players meme with each other and the interactions that spawn from that. You can look at it later and see if there was some attempted pocketing. Yeah if it goes on for the whole game it can be a problem, but for now I didn't see it as a pressing issue.
D1 lynch is kind of a shot in the dark atm. We only have to go off by what everyone said, but even then it's not much that I could discern a definitive maf hit with. I think the only person who hasn't said anything yet is amazon?
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
Agreed tbh, last game I think ness said in scumchat that he wanted to pocket dino so he started the charlie angels thing so it's definetly worth revisiting even if it's not giving much information now
And with the new rules about posting I think inactives is probably not a good lynch since they could be modkilled anyway
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Last time we played it was my first game, so now I feel I'm better? playing, so I'm more confident, but I do agree that is different from my early games, so thanks for pointing that out! It means a lot.
Also about the force memes, idk what you are talking about and I will send a letter to your manager.
I'm going in order and I'm a little behind, so will be answering as I go, but as of post 140 everyone is null to me.
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For me is a mix, I would love to rp and meme all the game, but if must players find it distracting I will tone it down, I'm in a facebook group in which we pretend to be Karens, and I was not ordinary member, I was a rising star, so I love this game because of that.
But I will be helpful, but I won't stop doing something I enjoy just because someone said so, so you will see memes and Karering from me.
If someone stopped I don't see it as AI, just because no one was against it really.
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You make me feel special, but sadly my wait to fulfill my dream of being mafia is not here yet.
But I applaud you for suggesting someone, even if it's me, same thing I said to Antonio, this moves the game somewhere.
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Oh now I see what you mean, yes that post about cake is lacking, I was trying to be funny.
I prefer to find towns than mafias, and last game I felt bad Cake was the first one to go, so I want to believe she is town this game, but I have no evidence to that argument.
Also OMG! this game I can say unholy trinity without being read as wolf for that #Goals!
We need to destroy the unholy trinity!
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This broke my heart, I was not even the target, I was just a happy accident of the Charlie's angels. super sad.
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I even made some art, which reminds me I'm lacking in a board for this game, any suggestions?
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ya i’m surprised people took that way. my issue is with people writing “i agree i think this is a valid point” and that’s it. you learn nothing about their process of reasoning bc they’ve latched themselves onto the thought of someone else. that and the fact that irrelevant convo to this game being counted as a “yesish” when i asked geo the limit. maf can easily coast this game
I fully agree - I don't think anyone should be taken out of their comfort zone. Hence the bolded portion in the following post:
I also agree that between not talking and memeing, memeing is 100% better. (While very much worse than game related content.)
I think you interpreted my original post as "the game must be played this way" instead of "these are pro-town behaviours, if it is reasonable for you to perform them, that would be beneficial".
While never aim to control or direct how a game is played, I will give advice on behaviour which (I believe) is beneficial to town. If you disagree with my suggested behaviour being helpful, well that's a talking point - talking points are helpful. If you agree that it is helpful then, well, perform it. (Of course, if you agree that it is helpful but also something you don't feel would complement your mafia game, then that's another story.)
That being said, my previous post was more of an effort to prod you to see how you'd react. And honestly reaction so far is how I'd expect someone with your behaviour to act as town. (Retaliatory vote, panicked response - mafia might resort to the mafia chat first when pushed, and then prepare a response. That doesn't appear to have happened here, not super alignment indicative but better than nothing.)
I don't really think this is relevant since while I was the one who originally suggested a self-restriction on memeing it was 2 others (Aerious and Antonio) that hammered it home and outright stated that it was unhelpful. (Which isn't entirely true but also not entirely incorrect.)
What I'm getting at is that several people voiced that memeing was not ideal and that people shouldn't do it, which is essentially the definition of peer pressure.
I don't think town or mafia is liable to respond that differently to this sort of peer pressure.
I generally appreciate any and all talking points, but I don't think this one leads anywhere interesting
If someone flips mafia later in the game please for the love of god don't go back and re-read any memeing they may or may not of done and attempt to discern any meaningful content from it.
Memeing only serves the purpose of being the catalyst for meaningful discussion. It does not generate any future relevance and it certainly doesn't give any interaction tells.
You will find that if player a memes with player b in this game, then they'll meme with player b in another game.
In addition, once the game progresses, there will be so much more meaningful content to address - vote patterns, reads, reasoning. Banter just isn't in there at all.
Then why not say this when I asked?
I'm not going to slam down some judicial hammer and declare that you're not allowed to joke around, but I'd absolutely argue that when people are questioning your play you should respond to them at least half seriously.
i mean it's not memeing to explain ur post tho...
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
You are not used to my play style and I can see why it could be problematic, I will try to explain my trip of process better in the future. I SAID WHAT I SAID!
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Say hello to the official board of this game. I will fill it soon, but these evils are trying to destroy our privilege bubble.
Generally, I feel like everyone now is trying to avoid being too assertive and focusing on remaining null. Of course there have been posts but very little traction or actual substance. This makes me rather concerned we won’t be able to make an educated decision by EOD. Scum are just hoping we mislynch due to the limited analysis available at this point. I’m confident scum are just laying low among us, contributing but not adding anything of any real significance and possibly taking conversation off on tangents intentionally. But I’m opposed to a no lynch because then we’ll have less info to analyze later. I’m also opposed to lynching inactives because they’d probably end up modkilled and aren’t adding anything anyway. Not certain what to think right now... hopefully something interesting unfolds before EOD so we have a decent lynch candidate.
Ace Marvel
Merry & Happy
Yes it is, and honestly I don't have any target.
voltairenism
the mac propaganda representative
fine then
day is too short tbh
i think i know mafia but like if i case them it'll be a total of two sentences long ^_^
do it anyway
right now it's literally a shot in the dark
MyLifeIsCake
~Impossomble~
I say this because the last game I was in this was the behavior of one of the mafs, make jokes to form alliances with others early game and then target them later. Yeah I know there are a lot of people who played together in the past and banter, but I think some of this could be used for deflection later, like 'haha that was a joke, its just X being X'
Of course there will more content later in the thread to make reads but for now this all we've to go off of.
Well **** I thought there was a lot more time but I'm thinking in CST...
i know this is a joke but the ONE game where i'm not scumreading her
(it's dedenne)
mostly because all their posts seem to express varying degrees of hesitancy. it comes across as though they don't want to say anything controversial and then i think the "oh no there isn't much to read after i was gone" seemed kinda strange to say when i think there / was / stuff going on it was just minimal, i don't see how that sort of commentary rly helps anything and it seems more like an obvious statement than a sentiment that came out of disappointment or w/e
mostly because all their posts seem to express varying degrees of hesitancy. it comes across as though they don't want to say anything controversial and then i think the "oh no there isn't much to read after i was gone" seemed kinda strange to say when i think there / was / stuff going on it was just minimal, i don't see how that sort of commentary rly helps anything and it seems more like an obvious statement than a sentiment that came out of disappointment or w/e
the hesitance is a good point but that could also be because she hasn't played in about a year and is feeling rusty?
i agree on the 'not much to read after i was gone' but i just skimmed her ISO and she posted this before going to bed last night:
im gonna be completely honest here, i got lost haflway thru antonio vs aerious or whatever and rn imo it doesnt seem very ai but im going to have to reread it! but for now i am going to sleep cant wait to have loads of pages to catch up to when i wake up
so this being her next post kind of makes sense in the context
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i'm getting a bit panicked because EOD is creeping up and we've gotten nowhere
i have a slight gut SR on ronishy but it's extremely weak, basically just feels like he sheeped kat's comment on ace and tried to turn it into something bigger but i also understand that ace's playstyle is... erratic when you're unfamiliar with it
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