Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)

i think kat/antonio are town, i actually was wary of kat til the antonio bit and i was thinking along the same lines in regards to Antonio

but i think the line about memeing is confusing and don't understand it so an explanation would be nice (that's where my uneasiness began)

aerious/epona seemed more hesitant on antonio and listed ness as an example why, i mean fair enough but i don't think antonio and ness have similar play styles/experience levels at all

endless seems to be guiding / instructive in his posts and i want to express that yall should be cautious about that.
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(I strongly disagree with the reasoning for the townlean but I have a similar read for a different reason. I am Null on Kat for the read - I don't think it's fabricated, I just think it's a bad read.)

what is your reasoning on antonio?

what makes kat's read bad
 
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(it's dedenne)

mostly because all their posts seem to express varying degrees of hesitancy. it comes across as though they don't want to say anything controversial and then i think the "oh no there isn't much to read after i was gone" seemed kinda strange to say when i think there / was / stuff going on it was just minimal, i don't see how that sort of commentary rly helps anything and it seems more like an obvious statement than a sentiment that came out of disappointment or w/e
yeah i do get ur point my posts are quite hesistant, a lot of the time i just dont know what to say.
and i am scared to say something controversial bc i dont want to get scumread and mislynched, altho i will try and say more of my thoughts since that will help give the thread more content.
and as for the there isnt much too read, i woke up and read like 1 and a half pages? i went to sleep expecting like 5 so it was kinda a shock. and yeah there was some stuff going on hence why i said there wasnt much, instead of there wasnt anything.
 
i mean it's not memeing to explain ur post tho...
I don't follow what you're trying to say. If you mean I didn't answer your question, I was answering it in the next paragraph. Unless I misunderstood the question?

@dedenne Anything more controversial you had on your mind that you feel comfortable airing right now?

Also Endless god bless you my man but I forgot how much your posts read like the terms and conditions sometimes. I hope that isn't an offensive thing to say? If it is I'm really sorry and mods can smite me, I don't think it's bad at all, I just find it funny.
 
Also Endless god bless you my man but I forgot how much your posts read like the terms and conditions sometimes.
is that why i have the urge to scroll past them 😭

lol i actually think ace’s lack of activity is kinda interesting compared to the last game. he’s not as back and forth this game? could be schedule based tho.

not sussing just o b s e r v i n g
 
Sorry guava, I found a player that has most of the clothes I'm missing so we been trading. Also to be honest I can't find a way to get into the conversation, this game has been too straight forward to the point that we don't sus anyone.

I kinda use my OMGUS to vote, but I'm not sure.
 
Ace- when I was following the last game, I liked your play and was glad when you turned out town, however in this game you seem abit different.
The comment made, you say its a joke but it stuck with me.
I still need more reads on people, let's keep these speculations going!
 
And I also find it extremely frustrating that even though bad, I made some reads, and they were question and I even got sus by then, but everyone else is just oh I see your point makes sense, okay moving on. So idk, maybe I'm trying to not stir the pot, to prevent that the cellar gets closed, so I'm just paranoid about it. Which is bad, because, why play if I will feel this way.
 
And I also find it extremely frustrating that even though bad, I made some reads, and they were question and I even got sus by then, but everyone else is just oh I see your point makes sense, okay moving on. So idk, maybe I'm trying to not stir the pot, to prevent that the cellar gets closed, so I'm just paranoid about it. Which is bad, because, why play if I will feel this way.
i think you should just play as you normally would. you weren’t particularly toxic per se but something is def different this time around
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oh i like the karen ritual pic btw x
 
i think you should just play as you normally would. you weren’t particularly toxic per se but something is def different this time around
I just don't want to be the reason I messed up everything for everyone.
And yes I agree with you and Ronishy, something is different this game I look back and I'm second guessing everything. And that's not me.

For better or worst, the strongest I see, even though super thin foil is glow's so I will cast my vote.
 
Ace, I feel you super hard there. I wouldn't call my play toxic and I'm really paranoid myself. It feels like one toe out of line is going to set the entire thing on fire, and even if you're playing by the rules that's a ton of pressure.

That said, take some deep breaths. It's going to be okay. Mods, ofc correct me if I'm wrong here, but I feel like the mods care infinitely more about the tone of what's said than the content itself, and you're such a soft person, I really don't think you can carry across a vindictive tone. So just take some deep breaths, listen to some calm music. Post what you would otherwise and leave a caveat at the bottom that you mean no harm in case you're worried about who you're talking to/Geoni/the mods taking it as such.
 
Hang in there Ace, this is your lucky 21. Do your best :)
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You think it glow.. I'm on a similar page to her on reads
 
Real weak reads:

Slight townish but closer to null
Guava and Epona based on my previous games, this is based on meta, but Guava is queen of meme and can go either way, unless she is claiming fake doc, lol. For Epona I always get a gut feeling if scum, and I only felt it on our first game, the one that I town lock her, and she was The Godfather, lol.

In my mind town
Cake, because I love her avatar so much, but this goes into the null category.

Null
Pretty much anyone else, specially Antonio/Aerious, all that was NAI

Vote of the day
Dedenne, I agree a little with glow, and even though Dedenne was hoping to see lots of content, it can be filler. like I'm here. I'm willing to accept responsibility if I'm wrong here, but I don't believe in no kill, sorry, I don't remember who said it.

Based on Tarot
Our mafia team is Cake (super sad), AmazonEvan and I'm not sure between Aerious and Tensu, because the moon and the hanged man, are always tricky cards for me. But I'm not in the best place atm with the game so my reads are surely not the best.

Ace, I feel you super hard there. I wouldn't call my play toxic and I'm really paranoid myself. It feels like one toe out of line is going to set the entire thing on fire, and even if you're playing by the rules that's a ton of pressure.

That said, take some deep breaths. It's going to be okay. Mods, ofc correct me if I'm wrong here, but I feel like the mods care infinitely more about the tone of what's said than the content itself, and you're such a soft person, I really don't think you can carry across a vindictive tone. So just take some deep breaths, listen to some calm music. Post what you would otherwise and leave a caveat at the bottom that you mean no harm in case you're worried about who you're talking to/Geoni/the mods taking it as such.

Yeah I will probably do that the following days if I'm still here, I'm going to relax and enjoy the game, but right now we have only a few hours, and the mangers has not solve any of our complaints. And you know we Karens don't like to wait.

Thank you so much for your message it made me feel better. <3

Hang in there Ace, this is your lucky 21. Do your best :)
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You think it glow.. I'm on a similar page to her on reads

Thank you! I'm glad you decided to join the crazy bunch. :)
 
i think dedenne might just be town?

aerious/epona seemed more hesitant on antonio and listed ness as an example why, i mean fair enough but i don't think antonio and ness have similar play styles/experience levels at all

fwiw my hesitance to townlean people for plays that i don't think mafia would make is not specific to antonio, it would have been the same if anybody else had brought up RNG lynching. it burned me so bad last game and i am trying not to be as blindly trusting this time round lol
 
what is your reasoning on antonio?

what makes kat's read bad
I touched on this here, but I can elaborate.
Antonio's reaction to the pressure seemed like genuine frustration/panic, mafia are more likely to contradict themselves with that sort of flurry of posts, but I can put myself in his shoes (assuming I interpret aerious's post wrong i.e. the misunderstanding) and push myself through the thought process he went through to post those posts.
I'm not saying the read has much strength at all, as that could've been genuine panic as a mafia player who self-righteously thought they were correct, but I'm of the opinion it's more likely town.

As for why Kat's read is bad, that's much more simplistic.
Kat stated here that she thought he "wouldn't draw eyes to himself" knowingly with the rng roll claim, but it's jawdroppingly obvious from his overtly defensive reaction that he absolutely didn't expect much attention from the post. Hence incorrect premise -> read is invalid.

Also Endless god bless you my man but I forgot how much your posts read like the terms and conditions sometimes. I hope that isn't an offensive thing to say? If it is I'm really sorry and mods can smite me, I don't think it's bad at all, I just find it funny.
No offense taken.
Force of habit really.
lol i actually think ace’s lack of activity is kinda interesting compared to the last game. he’s not as back and forth this game? could be schedule based tho.
..Lack of activity? Do I want to know how much he normally posts?
And I also find it extremely frustrating that even though bad, I made some reads
Which reads are these referencing? Surely not the list which you admitted involved a read because "you wanted them to be town".
 
omg ace did you make a tarot reading of the game that's iconic

I was slight SLing Ace but above brings me back to null for him. I think the nervousness in his posting was because of that more than alignment-related reasons.
Dedenne I guess given our small amount of info and my lack of townread on her at all, I'd be fine with it if nothing else crops up? I'd like to look for someone else though with the time we've got. @dedenne Who would you lynch right now?
Ronishy feels very much reliant on riding on coat-tails I feel like. First me, then glow. Not a fan but unsure if alignment indicative. @Ronishy even if you're echoing someone else, could you explain your general thoughts on what's going on in thread right now? I'd like to hear it in your own voice.
Epona felt like she was thinking aloud which I liked but also I felt like she white knighted Dedenne. Jumping in to her defense before Dedenne even got the chance to reply isn't sitting well with me.
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Felt like she was thinking aloud was re: looking at people early day w/ memeing stuff
 
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