Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)

[radical6]

dont u thinj eponas reaction is sort of townie abe, idk i feel like its frustrated town.

a slo maybe when i think abt it i feel like scum annie would know its laxy to not have more than 1 scumread. Like as scum epona she could easily pick 2 othwr names out of the hat. It doesnt make sense for a scum epona to not care besides tunneling sort of on one person only, like town would have to be careful with their reads while maf can be like w/e since they dont care ultimately if town dies

 

[glow]

dont u thinj eponas reaction is sort of townie abe, idk i feel like its frustrated town.

a slo maybe when i think abt it i feel like scum annie would know its laxy to not have more than 1 scumread. Like as scum epona she could easily pick 2 othwr names out of the hat. It doesnt make sense for a scum epona to not care besides tunneling sort of on one person only, like town would have to be careful with their reads while maf can be like w/e since they dont care ultimately if town dies

i think the frustration was definitely genuine moreso bc i think it's inaccurate to say she's not trying. she's been trying as either alignment for sure

 

[radical6]

ok yeah im going with townlock aerious tl epona mostly bc like

Scum!epona has no reason not to have 3 reads, even if its weak. She can afford to guess anyone and help nylos if she casted a wider net

Town!epona is hesitant and doesnt want to lynch unless shes absolutely sure bc mylo

Also i dont think i ever said epona isnt trying i think i was sort of panicking but i am going with her reaction and her sort of not focusing on anyone else scum (or as stronfly) makes me read her as town.

 

[Antonio]

what are your thoughts on epona / ace / endless

Ace - I disagree on the matter that they haven't contributed much regarding Aerious sus on him. I think they are acting from a town perspective. Also, nothing striked me as odd, TL

Epona - I'm not 100% sure because nothing striked me as odd. I also see them acting from a town perspective so that's a TL.

Endless - I think they are acting from a town perspective but the only thing that striked me as odd was the agreeing with you about me being some sort of hypocrite when I wasn't as stated before. However, I'm not sure if that's mafia being on the same page or him blindly following you. I'm not sure what to make of it but I think it's SL for no. I'm just confused about Endless.

 

[Endless]

Ace/Guava/Antonio should’ve been eliminated sooner and I should’ve done more to push for it imo. Regretting that now

I mean on a fundamental level I'm incredibly against policy lynching, but I do absolutely think guav@ is mafia. There's a solid chance Antonio is too, but I'm much less on that train, reasonable chance of Ace as well.

dont u thinj eponas reaction is sort of townie abe, idk i feel like its frustrated town.

a slo maybe when i think abt it i feel like scum annie would know its laxy to not have more than 1 scumread. Like as scum epona she could easily pick 2 othwr names out of the hat. It doesnt make sense for a scum epona to not care besides tunneling sort of on one person only, like town would have to be careful with their reads while maf can be like w/e since they dont care ultimately if town dies

Honestly? A little. But I still absolutely townread glow/Aerious more, which just sifts her in with PoE. That doesn't change from any of these interactions.

 

[Aerious]

I mean on a fundamental level I'm incredibly against policy lynching, but I do absolutely think guav@ is mafia. There's a solid chance Antonio is too, but I'm much less on that train, reasonable chance of Ace as well.
Honestly? A little. But I still absolutely townread glow/Aerious more, which just sifts her in with PoE. That doesn't change from any of these interactions.

It’s not policy eliminating, but also you’ve mentioned willingness to policylynch Ace for his playstyle specifically in convos we’ve had outside of this game. It’s also not policy eliminating if the three of them have consistently been scummy, with two citing meta as an excuse

 

[radical6]

So yeah I disagree on you Aerious that epona is scummy for only having 1 scumread and not considerimg 2 other scum. It doesnt make sense for scum to not give af and say anyone. Townies are going to be more cautious. I am tired. This is the mosy strength i can muster.

I also think her reaction is towny rn. So overall I think shes townie moreso than glow.

 

[Endless]

Like if glow/epona/Aerious are all town with these kills and mafia still evading lynches then I've been pretty much owned already.

 

[Aerious]

Like if glow/epona/Aerious are all town with these kills and mafia still evading lynches then I've been pretty much owned already.

If all 4 of us are town, that’s the best chance we have at winning. You mentioned thinking one of us are scum though because of the kills

 

[glow]

Ace - I disagree on the matter that they haven't contributed much regarding Aerious sus on him. I think they are acting from a town perspective. Also, nothing striked me as odd, TL

Epona - I'm not 100% sure because nothing striked me as odd. I also see them acting from a town perspective so that's a TL.

Endless - I think they are acting from a town perspective but the only thing that striked me as odd was the agreeing with you about me being some sort of hypocrite when I wasn't as stated before. However, I'm not sure if that's mafia being on the same page or him blindly following you. I'm not sure what to make of it but I think it's SL for no. I'm just confused about Endless.

ok i’m digesting this, here’s why i asked:

fmpov you need to have 2 scumreads in here unless you think one of aerious or radical are bussing me since you said you TL guava and don't see a case against tensu

idk how this all fits together

 

[Antonio]

What if.. guav@ is bad, and didn't think that far through?
So let me get this straight - you think it's towny that they performed an action that appeared absolutely useless because mafia wouldn't want to appear absolutely useless?

I'm saying scum would have a solid reaction if they were faking a bait. She didn't frame you, she was also uncertain about what your reaction meant. I think that's more townie then scum

 

[Endless]

It’s not policy eliminating, but also you’ve mentioned willingness to policylynch Ace for his playstyle specifically in convos we’ve had outside of this game. It’s also not policy eliminating if the three of them have consistently been scummy, with two citing meta as an excuse

From what I remember of the convo I'm p sure I said "I'd lynch him if his behaviour was like this". (Regarding the day of the KM, for context for others)

 

[Antonio]

ok i’m digesting this, here’s why i asked:

fmpov you need to have 2 scumreads in here unless you think one of aerious or radical are bussing me since you said you TL guava and don't see a case against tensu

idk how this all fits together

I still scum read you and I believe you are on a team with Endless.

 

[Ace Marvel]

@Aerious
So basically everyone but Tensu is an option for Aerious, interesting, from Kat sure is scum, to now everyone is, and honestly that is the easy way out.

Town: me
Scum the rest

And this + the discord chat, is derailing too, so like I said nobody is innocent of that, maybe Epona and Endless because they take this games really seriously, can't speak for Endless, but For Epona being solve is NAI, cuz she always is.

And right now could be wrong, but I feel you are just doing this he said, she said with me, so I give into your reads and vote with you, which is not necessary scum move, but I don't see it other way. My answers will never be good enough, solve enough, helpful or beneficial to the game, so if this is the case, I'm sorry but I don't want to vote glow, and I will stand my ground there, I see it as a huge mistake.

 

[glow]

If all 4 of us are town, that’s the best chance we have at winning. You mentioned thinking one of us are scum though because of the kills

i would say if we're all town we lose because ALL of you think there's one within us

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only thing that striked me as odd was the agreeing with you about me being some sort of hypocrite

radical said the same thing, does that not read as equally scummy fypov

 

[radical6]

btw glow r u evwr gonna elaborate on ur thoughts on endless from earlier

 

[Antonio]

i would say if we're all town we lose because ALL of you think there's one within us

there's been nightkills

radical said the same thing, does that not read as equally scummy fypov

Yes, radical behavior is my third scum read. One of the biggest problem I have with them is that they aren't voting for who they think is scum but are willing to vote for whoever can have the most votes. I don't agree with that one bit nor do I understand that from a town perspective.

I think the scum team is Glow/Endless/Radical.

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I'm down for a vote on either three.

 

[Aerious]

@Aerious
So basically everyone but Tensu is an option for Aerious, interesting, from Kat sure is scum, to now everyone is, and honestly that is the easy way out.

Town: me
Scum the rest

And this + the discord chat, is derailing too, so like I said nobody is innocent of that, maybe Epona and Endless because they take this games really seriously, can't speak for Endless, but For Epona being solve is NAI, cuz she always is.

And right now could be wrong, but I feel you are just doing this he said, she said with me, so I give into your reads and vote with you, which is not necessary scum move, but I don't see it other way. My answers will never be good enough, solve enough, helpful or beneficial to the game, so if this is the case, I'm sorry but I don't want to vote glow, and I will stand my ground there, I see it as a huge mistake.

You addressed next to nothing until you were coaxed into it by others. I don’t understand how you can’t grasp how scummy it is to play in the manner that you do. You and Guava being scumread consistently, you mentioning it’s “not your job to post reads, it’s Epona’s.” You have contributed reads in the past, you have started wagons, and this game is a stark difference from what everyone likes to call you “town meta.” It’s a waste of people’s time when others are taking this game seriously imo and I can’t see the motivation behind a majority of your interjections, besides avoiding claim lists and relevant conversations. I have my towncore, I’m willing to vote outside of it, which leaves 6 players in contention. It’s a waste of time to scumread me at this point.

Now contribute your thoughts on who’s a plausible scum team, since I need to mention that again too

there's been nightkills.

This is related to scum in Me/Endless/Epona/Glow

 

[Antonio]

This is related to scum in Me/Endless/Epona/Glow

how's that relevant to the "there's been nightkills" quote?

 

[Aerious]

how's that relevant to the "there's been nightkills" quote?

Because you misconstrued what was stated and added something that doesn’t add up to the point at hand