Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)

[Ace Marvel]

I’m not town leader, but I’m averse to voting for them and they won’t vote for each other. They’re also consistently trying to help town have any semblance of winning. They aren’t the most SR people — could’ve easily coasted and won if they were a pairing.

You can quote yourself all day long, but your answers haven’t had much explanation. They also haven’t come naturally. They seem evasive rather than pro-town, not to mention adding into discussion sporadically and nitpicking what to respond to

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If you want to build a case and mention a scum team, you have to mention their synergy and working together and how it’d play into the game state

Because I take the free time I have to answer, that can't be hold accountable against me, if I jump to comment is because I have a moment after a meeting or a break, and I don't have 3 full hours to do the iso you did, so my commentary might be limited, but for me enclose what I think in that moment, and if you find it not useful to your reads, that's fine too, but for me they are.

 

[radical6]

going to bed, will rry and be ehre 30 before eod, idk if i will becime the wagon when im asleep, if i do thats unfortunate but on a personal level id be glad.

 

[Aerious]

i have to agree with ace here

one person townlocking 2 people doesn't mean they're not scum lol

No, but explain why they’d be trying as hard as they are to aid with the game state if this game is an easy clean sweep for mafia. Not many people are SRing them

Because I take the free time I have to answer, that can't be hold accountable against me, if I jump to comment is because I have a moment after a meeting or a break, and I don't have 3 full hours to do the iso you did, so my commentary might be limited, but for me enclose what I think in that moment, and if you find it not useful to your reads, that's fine too, but for me they are.

This just sounds like excuses. You don’t have to make a long post as I did. You did have enough time in your interjections to contribute to conversations and your opinions on them instead of ignoring it completely and focusing on menial details

 

[Ace Marvel]

@Ace Marvel Answer this too

No, because I've been saying glow is town, so no.

 

[Aerious]

No, because I've been saying glow is town, so no.

Not literally, answer in the context of your reads
ST: Tensu/Endless/Radical

 

[radical6]

also idk where u got im consistently trying to help town win bc my play has been p lazy tbh

but ye im guessing aer u prefer ace lynch, i think most ppl have him as null wbich can mahbe happen

Sort of feeling like we're goung in circles if im honest

Alao im passing out bye

 

[Antonio]

and do your reads change if you KNOW i'm town? like obviously you don't know but just assume it, i'm lynched and flip VT

do your reads stay the same?

They might change. I would have to reevaluate my reads by looking at their posts but there's a possibility that they were just following your easy sus on me if you are possibly town.

Most likely my opinion would change regarding Endless because it relies on you being scum but my read on radical doesn't.

 

[epona]

bc you have no reads, and if you’re town, we need a solid consensus on who to vote bc maf has 3 votes in their favor
what are your scum team possibilities and why?

i have reads i'm just not confident in them and i'm sorry if you think it's scummy that i can't pick out an exact team but the way this game has gone i am REALLY struggling to worldbuild

i also HATE the way you're trying to lead town just bc you're widely townread right now and i have no idea why radical is going along with it and basically asking your permission to lynch people. i'd happily vote for antonio and you being against that isn't going to stop me doing that lol

my scumread is tensu. he is compatible with pretty much everybody except maybe antonio. i think there's a decent chance antonio is scum, and i also think his flip solves tensu and can get me out of my tunnel so i am happy to vote there

people i would vote for today, in some sort of semblance of a tiered list from most to least:

tensu, antonio

ace, guava

endless, radical (fwiw i think both of these are town but not as strongly as below)

people i am never voting today:
aerious, glow

 

[Aerious]

i have reads i'm just not confident in them and i'm sorry if you think it's scummy that i can't pick out an exact team but the way this game has gone i am REALLY struggling to worldbuild

i also HATE the way you're trying to lead town just bc you're widely townread right now and i have no idea why radical is going along with it and basically asking your permission to lynch people. i'd happily vote for antonio and you being against that isn't going to stop me doing that lol

my scumread is tensu. he is compatible with pretty much everybody except maybe antonio. i think there's a decent chance antonio is scum, and i also think his flip solves tensu and can get me out of my tunnel so i am happy to vote there

people i would vote for today, in some sort of semblance of a tiered list from most to least:

tensu, antonio

ace, guava

endless, radical (fwiw i think both of these are town but not as strongly as below)

people i am never voting today:
aerious, glow

You can vote whoever you want. Guava is gone so the players are 5 v. 3 town/maf voting today, or 6 v. 2 depending on where she falls. We need consistency from town in case Guava is town too.

If not Tensu, who would garner the most info? Tensu is compatible with everyone, so we need to try to hit people who can either clear others as town/scum

 

[epona]

No, but explain why they’d be trying as hard as they are to aid with the game state if this game is an easy clean sweep for mafia. Not many people are SRing them

a sweep still requires us to mislynch twice consecutively, that's not necessarily a given when the POE keeps getting narrower each day
i also don't think radical is trying extremely hard to aid with the gamestate? like???? i think they're town but i don't think they're really providing much insightful content atm so i don't see where you're pulling that from

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You can vote whoever you want. Guava is gone so the players are 5 v. 3 town/maf voting today, or 6 v. 2 depending on where she falls. We need consistency from town in case Guava is town too.

If not Tensu, who would garner the most info? Tensu is compatible with everyone, so we need to try to hit people who can either clear others as town/scum

then antonio imo. if antonio flips scum i would back off tensu because i think it's unlikely that they're w/w

ace is null for a lot of people like radical said so his flip doesn't tell us much and guava's gameplay is too chaotic to really analyse who townread/scumread/defended/pushed her because all of those things have justifications that aren't necessarily alignment indicative

 

[Ace Marvel]

This just sounds like excuses. You don’t have to make a long post as I did. You did have enough time in your interjections to contribute to conversations and your opinions on them instead of ignoring it completely and focusing on menial details

Call them what you want.

Radical is pocketing you, you are defending both Tensu and Endless, so with that, one can continue to pocket, while the other is solving and the other one is coasting, therefore you are opening the way for mafia to win, that's how I see how this team works based around you. While I'm here trying to stay alive, Tensu said, kill me whatever, and that was ok with you. And with 3 mafia left, If I was one, like you said, why should I have to try this hard to prove myself to you, when I don't even have a single vote, but I'm doing this, because I don't want all of you to go to LYLO, because you believe I'm making excuses.

 

[glow]

can we agree on these?? please let me know if i'm missing any

guava / endless

aerious / epona

antonio / guava

aerious / ace

epona / tensu

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WHOOPS forgot title. those are ppl NOT mafia together

 

[Aerious]

a sweep still requires us to mislynch twice consecutively, that's not necessarily a given when the POE keeps getting narrower each day
i also don't think radical is trying extremely hard to aid with the gamestate? like???? i think they're town but i don't think they're really providing much insightful content atm so i don't see where you're pulling that from

She still hasn’t slept all night and is posting to provide opinions. They’re shifting reads based on what people say today and at least providing reasons why. Ex: I don’t TR you, she does

MLing twice with 9 people alive is entirely plausible when people are allowed to go down whatever chaotic route they want

Call them what you want.

Radical is pocketing you, you are defending both Tensu and Endless, so with that, one can continue to pocket, while the other is solving and the other one is coasting, therefore you are opening the way for mafia to win, that's how I see how this team works based around you. While I'm here trying to stay alive, Tensu said, kill me whatever, and that was ok with you. And with 3 mafia left, If I was one, like you said, why should I have to try this hard to prove myself to you, when I don't even have a single vote, but I'm doing this, because I don't want all of you to go to LYLO, because you believe I'm making excuses.

When did Tensu say kill me when he voted Evan to survive????? I don’t see any world where Tensu/Endless are scum just because of the early sheeping. That’s too lazy of Endless as scum

 

[glow]

@Endless

do you think your scum reads are all compatible with each other

 

[Ace Marvel]

When did Tensu say kill me when he voted Evan to survive????? I don’t see any world where Tensu/Endless are scum just because of the early sheeping. That’s too lazy of Endless as scum

it’s not me sis

If y’all wanna lynch me off the excuse that I’ve been inactive and semi-useless lately that’s cool. But I pinky promise I’m a townie :3 :3 :3

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Could you start being useful then?

not really with my current schedule lol

 

[Aerious]

I missed this, thanks. Tensu went from not caring to actively voting someone else to self-preserve, despite thinking self-preservation would’ve made @Antonio more scummy

 

[glow]

can we agree on these?? please let me know if i'm missing any

guava / endless

aerious / epona

antonio / guava

aerious / ace

epona / tensu

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WHOOPS forgot title. those are ppl NOT mafia together

adding guava / tensu

 

[epona]

< 3 i am trying to ignore my tinfoil < 3

 

[Aerious]

adding guava / tensu

I don’t rule out Guava/Tensu, I rule out Antonio/Tensu because of active frustration of inactive players

< 3 i am trying to ignore my tinfoil < 3

This is more than likely a town loss anyways, go ahead and share your tinfoil

 

[Ace Marvel]

So with that I feel Tensu/Radical can work together, and the leader could be Endless, Antonio and less likely but still Guava, the one deciding the kills, since D1. Therefore they are at TL for me.