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Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

Is that the order of preferred lynch? If not, what is the order?
for now unravel, then you and fleshy at last. the three of them seemed very close at first but unravel self-preservation made me a little more certain bc before it was like "yeah this is odd but how maf buddies even let that..."
and ofc I wont be voting all of sudden since my vote is final and cant be changed
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also to keep this ball going I would like for everyone to vote on the thread
 
So far, please correct me if I'm wrong, but Volt has been considering: Me, you, Shawo and Fleshy.
This post appears to be softclaiming a PR?
I'm gonna call that out, because Shawo has also claimed or (whether jokingly or no) and the chances of so many town PRs in the lynch pool is insanely low.
i don't like this defense either. probability has nothing to do with it. one person tried to lie low and made themselves seem scummy in the process, one person blatantly claimed pr. fwiw, they both could be pr. i'm also uncertain if unravel is softing pr or trying to claim townie selfishly
 
i don't like this defense either. probability has nothing to do with it. one person tried to lie low and made themselves seem scummy in the process, one person blatantly claimed pr. fwiw, they both could be pr. i'm also uncertain if unravel is softing pr or trying to claim townie selfishly
Two, maybe yes. But three? That's where I'm a little more concerned.
 
Good morning, I got 3 hours of sleep last night after waking up really ill so I'm not feeling super hot right now. I'll see to reading the thread and getting my thoughts posted.
 
Good morning, I got 3 hours of sleep last night after waking up really ill so I'm not feeling super hot right now. I'll see to reading the thread and getting my thoughts posted.
Hey, Ness, hope you're doing okay! Take care of yourself!!
 
Bruh I'm mentally spent and you're not gonna see me again for a while with a 7PM deadline.

@voltairenism I think I'm not at all 100% on Dino being scum and she's worth keeping alive if town because she's a really solid player whenever I have played with her, and Aerious would just be killing the distraction that's probably town so if you go with that lynch then RIP I guess, Shawo still has mafia equity imo but even I don't have a concrete yes or no on buying his claim so that makes it risky and he's full of fancy play right now. Unravel, Fleshy, and Fefe are viable options that could flip scum. Personally I would go with Fleshy when I combine my PoEing and levels of confidence about everyone. Fefe has a brutally low amount of content and lynching those types of players can blow up in your face.

But again my advised lynch pool is Fleshy/Unravel/Shawo(huge risk tho)/Fefe.

I've seen some interest in Cake from some people but I'm mostly going with a townread while side-eying her treatment of Shawo lately. I'm not dying on this hill if you're really convinced about her by EoD but I have a solid tone/approach read on them.

@epona @N e s s I can't stress enough how important it is to build a towncore and in my absence I think you two are the only ones that are gonna be disciplined enough to keep trying to build it through all the BS.

@KINGMAKER: I WIM THAN ANYONE AND HAVE VERY HIGH ACCURACY IN HAVING FOUND AT LEAST 1 WOLF BY DAY 2. I MANIFEST IT INTO EXISTENCE YOU WILL DO THE RIGHT THING. THIS IS GEO-REPARATIONS.
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Oh and #VOTE: Fleshy if you want where I am Volt.
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Bedtime GLGL
 
Geoni I don't really get your posts.

Is it bad that I'm reading them and they don't make any sense to me?
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I mean from the start we dont get shawo and his crazy tricks, I hope whatever he's doing is pro town cuz one time he fake claim as cop and all mafia decided to kill him and the next day everyone including myself reacted. I feel like he's playing town as solo like he doesn't trust anyone himself trying to be benefit as town ehhh you get what I mean but yeah I somewhat believe his hint claim for now knowing him anyway he will pull some stupid stunt in game anyway.

I dunno much about fleshy im just neutral on him, as for aerious it changes my perspective on her to null and not slight scumlean she made some points and some of them just confuse me/other people so i cud say a slight misunderstanding. I don't mind if me, Dino and fleshy got lynch on first day tho you don't get any benefit for lynching me tbh thats on you
lol

unravel is town.
 
Unexpectedly busy this morning up to now, but I'm finally back for the night. I've held off on trying to make formulated reads as, to be honest, I was somewhat distracted by the happenings earlier in the game and the KM/role discussion, which I was watching but didn't feel needed to be pointlessly discussed further, or that it even needed to be discussed to the point that it was, really.

@Fleshy

Your entire ISO, spoiled below. Treating you a little different atm because I'm quantifying something:

First three posts are 2 forum related things and 1 RQS answer to questions that didn't ask about reads. Across 10 posts you have that can be analyzed with any depth you have only explicitly given a read on 3 people (Shawo, Aerious, Ace). Before I reached the point of Shawo really buckling down on his PR claim I found the posts where you were talking about Ace (8 and 10 but it kinda extends back to 6&7) to come off as defensive and given all of the ambivalence and your lack of reads across the rest of the playerlist I feel like it's kinda TMI in retrospect and that you're positioning to look right on someone Volt was seriously considering lynching. TMI in a coasty kind of way because of how you've talked about very few other people.
Could you provide some townreads (people you would be willing to vote with should this be a normal game) as well as people you'd veto being kinged? Or just talk about other people than these three in general?

To say I've been coasting, at least somewhat, is fair. My thought process was moreso to watch and bring attention to anything that stood out to me as it happened or as I noticed it, and the only things that did, without really ISO'ing or reading deeper was Shawos claim and then Ace. I understand why my comments about Ace come across that way considering I haven't voiced opinion on much else, but it really was just something I noticed and wanted to bring light to. I don't think suggesting someone be executed over a soft PR claim (as it was at the time) is too reasonable. My plan for this morning was to attempt to formulate clearer reads on everyone, or at least most people, that didn't end up happening, but I finally have time to do that now.

8 Moving Fleshy to red, not much too offer other that I'm town and jumped into the drama.
I haven't played with you before Ace, I don't know your meta, but in all honesty your frequent mention of always being town and never ever maf did strike me as an attempt to plant the seed in peoples minds that you are, infact, town. Dino managed to deter my suspicions from you just by saying it's normal for you to act that way, but instead of doing something similar you're holding on to it, as if my mere mention of you is completely unreasonable, and personally I don't think it is, I'm not watching your every move waiting to pounce. I don't think the way you're acting toward me is completley unfounded however, your reaction seems more townleaning in all honestly although my suspicions of you aren't completley obliterated


I know it's weak but for now I'm going to post my rainbow list with a few thoughts so far, I'll elaborate with proper over the next few hours once I've eventually had some food and time to read properly.
Geoni
Epona

voltairenism
Sidney
- Strong town, everything from her seems town orintated and nothing has made me second guess that so far. Everything has been answered transparently and I'd expect more reaction if scum.
Shawo
Aerious
Ace Marvel
guav@
DinoTown
- I'll come back here after some ISO'ing, my thoughts are all over the place and I'm struggling to geta solid read either way, I don't think I'd really be down with a Dino elim today but also veto as king.
N e s s
glow
- Strong town for now, level of effort, questioning, bringing things up that haven't really been discussed, everything thus far seems town indicative and nothing has made me second guess that yet
MyLifeisCake
Feferily

unravel - I'm aware that it's rich coming from me considering I've not provided much content either, but constantly "having nothing to say", white texting (??), most recent post was the nail in the coffin for me, basically +1 to what both Dino and Aerious have said in the last 30 minutes. "I don't mind if you kill me but kill these 2 first" I don't understand that viewpoint as town.
 
pretty sure glow n unravel is town and everyone else doesn't deserve a townread.

as much as u guys are whining about me being antitown or whatever none of you guys are actively doing anything useful urself............................

voltaire is also a townread but that's more by virtue of the way they're acting and not anything they've done.

I think dino/ace are still my lynch pool for today, but I'd also be more than happy to lynch geoni and maybe aer once I figure out what they've been saying.

I think I might've tr'd someone else but I can't remember their name so...
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now I'm confused that user isn't in fleshy's read list.

Some trash can?

I do think sidney might b town tbh.

High effort new player != town jsyk...
So I'm gonna refrain from reading them.
 
Can we make the 'small scum lean' in rainbow lists pink, maybe perhaps pretty please?
Orange-y colour is usually reserved for third party so that throws me for a loop every time lol.
Yes this is because I am big dumb.
 
shawo who tf are you talking to
himself.
@unravel mentioning a stupid mafia targeting someone claiming cop if a doc is in the mix is irrelevant and doesn't make someone town. go read june mafia if anyone wants to see shawo attempting to be helpful town by claiming blue. this isn't it, and i'd be surprised if he flipped town. but ofc need more info from watcher before anyone is definitively mafia
 
Whats softclaiming PR??? Im too early to role claim atm And no im not being manipulative towards volt i just told them its on them, I can't force people cuz everybody has their own perspective and choice lol at people thinking im role claiming lmfao

Everyone has their own playstyle, I learn that chaotic play isnt always a bad thing tbh this is the second time playing with shawo i think, i also notice that some people just too over exaggerating over simple things which sometimes leads to an anti town scenario and plus i didnt expect to be king cuz I never tried so yeepers
 
Whats softclaiming PR??? Im too early to role claim atm And no im not being manipulative towards volt i just told them its on them, I can't force people cuz everybody has their own perspective and choice lol at people thinking im role claiming lmfao

Everyone has their own playstyle, I learn that chaotic play isnt always a bad thing tbh this is the second time playing with shawo i think, i also notice that some people just too over exaggerating over simple things which sometimes leads to an anti town scenario and plus i didnt expect to be king cuz I never tried so yeepers
k explain the white text and why you're willing to die after 2 others tho
 
himself.
@unravel mentioning a stupid mafia targeting someone claiming cop if a doc is in the mix is irrelevant and doesn't make someone town. go read june mafia if anyone wants to see shawo attempting to be helpful town by claiming blue. this isn't it, and i'd be surprised if he flipped town. but ofc need more info from watcher before anyone is definitively mafia
But theres one game he claim cop and mafia targeted him and the result was he was a townie, all players were shock right after the results and yes i would understand that you guys are VERY skeptical towards shawo and imo its still very early to lynch him at this point

(Finally i feel involved in game lmfao)
 
Whats softclaiming PR??? Im too early to role claim atm And no im not being manipulative towards volt i just told them its on them, I can't force people cuz everybody has their own perspective and choice lol at people thinking im role claiming lmfao
Softclaiming pr is basically just hinting that you are a pr without outright going "I claim pr." Which is what the whole "killing me would be bad" did. If you meant you were just vanilla town, I don't see the point in posting it? Because killing me would ALSO be bad because I'm town too, so like... not a great defense. Also your post towards Volt was looking like it was a little manipulative with the whole "well you can do what you want but you shouldn't kill me" angle
 
okay i took unravel's white text as a softclaim too so glad i'm not the only one. now that it's been discussed i feel comfortable just saying @unravel you need to explain the white text, if it was some bs attempt at a softclaim then please just outright say it

otherwise i am highly recommending volt executes you, with fleshy as a second choice
 
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