Mafia Into the MarioVerse Kingmaker- Mafia Win!

[Ace Marvel]

quick update: the op used to say replacements would be used until Day 3. But that was from copy and pasting my games where i had open nights. because nights are locked and people can’t post, i extended it till Day 4. So Day 3 is the last day to request a replacement/be subbed out for inactivity (currently no one is breaking that)

after Day 3, replacements won’t be used so removal of a player for whatever reason will just end in a modkill

so sorry for my messy OP everyone

WAH!

 

[unravel]

Yeah I'm also kind of skeptical what volt did knowing he's suss me more than anyone else then he asked everyone who to vote for then later on was discarded and execute Cake out of blue

Since day 1 km is rng im not sure if its possible mafia can get king from random cuz usually its always town based on what I play previous games here so idk

I also didn't like how fleshy talk it's like they wrote it in notepad waiting for the right time to post it (scripted and force post) at first I really don't mind at all but after reading multiple times it doesn't seem right all along not to mention he sticks to few people and keep agreeing on like bruh it would be obvious if ur scum and as a scum isn't it ur job to pretend not knowing yall each other and stay distant the entire game? I might be wrong but its just how I see it

 

[Aerious]

ok but your reasoning was nonsense and it's becoming more apparent just how nonsense it is now that we have 2 dead vts. idk how you ever thought claiming was a good idea and it's just seeming scummier and scummier to me the more i think about it

but i also don't think you're w/w with fleshy unless you're bussing rn

keep complaining about it. i explained why, that answer isn’t going to change. i wanted to prevent shawo’s claim on blue, which wound up happening anyway. tried to mitigate chaos and failed. when i die i’m going to flip wario the townie lmao

as i said, low hanging fruit for maf to wagon. gg go next

 

[unravel]

Shawo is fake claiming knowing him

keep complaining about it. i explained why, that answer isn’t going to change. i wanted to prevent shawo’s claim on blue, which wound up happening anyway. tried to mitigate chaos and failed. when i die i’m going to flip wario the townie lmao

as i said, low hanging fruit for maf to wagon. gg go next

 

[Aerious]

predicted this to happen, didn’t think i’d actually be scumread by town strictly due to chaos

Shawo is fake claiming knowing him

you townread him because he does this even tho he very easily could flip mafia. i don’t understand

also, shocked epona thinks i’m stupid enough to bus as mafia on d2

 

[epona]

keep complaining about it. i explained why, that answer isn’t going to change. i wanted to prevent shawo’s claim on blue, which wound up happening anyway. tried to mitigate chaos and failed. when i die i’m going to flip wario the townie lmao

as i said, low hanging fruit for maf to wagon. gg go next

you can't just use the 'i'm lhf and if you wagon me you're maf bc i provided it as a caveat in my claim post so it must be true!' card when people rightfully doubt your intentions over a plan that you admit didn't work, and which i think a lot of people have failed to see from the start how it would ever work (there is nothing that ever says a random ass green claim is going to stop someone claiming blue)

ur 'i wanted to stop shawo's blue claim' just looks increasingly like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole bc you wanted a reason to claim. there's literally no correlation between you claiming green and anyone else claiming anything

you're not my top scumlean rn but you are a scumlean and i just wanted to make it clear where i'm at w that before i head off for the night

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predicted this to happen, didn’t think i’d actually be scumread by town strictly due to chaos

you townread him because he does this even tho he very easily could flip mafia. i don’t understand

also, shocked epona thinks i’m stupid enough to bus as mafia on d2

i literally said that i didn't think you were w/w with fleshy, unless you were bussing? as in i don't think you two are w/w, because i don't think you're bussing

you're being weirdly defensive right now when you're not the only name i've raised in my past few posts

 

[Aerious]

you can't just use the 'i'm lhf and if you wagon me you're maf bc i provided it as a caveat in my claim post so it must be true!' card when people rightfully doubt your intentions over a plan that you admit didn't work, and which i think a lot of people have failed to see from the start how it would ever work (there is nothing that ever says a random ass green claim is going to stop someone claiming blue)

ur 'i wanted to stop shawo's blue claim' just looks increasingly like trying to fit a square peg in a round hole bc you wanted a reason to claim. there's literally no correlation between you claiming green and anyone else claiming anything

you're not my top scumlean rn but you are a scumlean and i just wanted to make it clear where i'm at w that before i head off for the night

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i literally said that i didn't think you were w/w with fleshy, unless you were bussing? as in i don't think you two are w/w, because i don't think you're bussing

you're being weirdly defensive right now when you're not the only name i've raised in my past few posts

no i just have no patience to continue defending myself w the same rebuttal. this isn’t defensiveness, if you wanna compare to june maf where i actually was maf, this is aggravation bc i’ve repeated myself 10 times. even when i claimed i mention trying to bypass him bc one claim is too much d1, he went to do the same nonsense anyways. not something i’ll try again, but it’s not fun playing w the same thing happening multiple games in a row (which doesn’t work in tbt mafia v clearly) if i’m to be as honest as possible

 

[unravel]

you townread him because he does this even tho he very easily could flip mafia. i don’t understand

But would he really legit took a risk throwing a huge risk as mafia if so that's almost like game throwing and dan would have mod kill him instead

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Also didn't you and fleshy almost kind of team up?????

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Wait wtf i didn't edit my post but it says its edited

 

[Aerious]

But would he really legit took a risk throwing a huge risk as mafia if so that's almost like game throwing and dan would have mod kill him instead

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Also didn't you and fleshy almost kind of team up?????

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Wait wtf i didn't edit my post but it says its edited

team up? lmao? i didn’t say a thing about fleshy quit reaching. no one is getting mod killed for claiming and it’s not a throw. this post makes no sense and i’m just waiting for you to flip maf

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a thing to team up w fleshy* i criticized him if anything for literally clinging onto a claim to sway volt. you’ve made incredibly moot points this whole game and i’d genuinely be surprised if you flipped town w shawo

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the only reason i could see unravel as town is bc i don’t think someone with a mafia team behind them would have them type stuff like this lmao

 

[unravel]

Because im town lol

 

[shawo]

Yeah I'm also kind of skeptical what volt did knowing he's suss me more than anyone else then he asked everyone who to vote for then later on was discarded and execute Cake out of blue

Since day 1 km is rng im not sure if its possible mafia can get king from random cuz usually its always town based on what I play previous games here so idk

I also didn't like how fleshy talk it's like they wrote it in notepad waiting for the right time to post it (scripted and force post) at first I really don't mind at all but after reading multiple times it doesn't seem right all along not to mention he sticks to few people and keep agreeing on like bruh it would be obvious if ur scum and as a scum isn't it ur job to pretend not knowing yall each other and stay distant the entire game? I might be wrong but its just how I see it

town sentiment.

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I think epona's probably going to lynch mafia today.

Epona's reads are generally going in the same direction as me.

"A lot of weird things happened d1 that no one really talked about."

I was gonna iso fleshy and talk about something they're doin that makes me uncomfortable but that's another post.

I will stand by my townreads.

 

[glow]

hey i found the post

@glow

I don't have a -ton- of stuff to discuss with you but you're in my towncore for the amount of catchup mindmelds I had with you as I was reading, you are your typical nitpicky self and come off as chill which is what I'm used to seeing with you. If I'm going by my notes alone you wouldn't really be in my towncore though.

which mindmelds are you talking about? your post is off alignment with this sentence because instead of acknowledging or reinforcing points i made that you agree with you've just made comments on various lines of mine and it's hard for me to follow your train of thought, or what you're aiming at with them

Wasn't a fan of this post if just because my notes had more takeaways and small moments to look at in these specific pages, I spent hours on the five pages and came out with a fair amount of notes on them that weren't just Aerious/Dino so it not only comes off as shading them for being distracting and dominating the discussion with...a mess but also it just felt like a lazy comment to make, no matter how casual you are in blatantly saying it. Like you weren't caring about solving beyond something mega obvious. You've since done more but it really pinged me.

i don't even halfway understand this

like i get your point was that you made other observations that i didn't and instead of discussing those you... mention me not commenting on anything else in the thread when it was mostly just bickering between dino/aerious? you have me mistaken if you think i comment on everything in a thread, or even type out most of my reads lol

And so you consider chaotic nature NAI for him? I've only seen him as scum once and he was really hovering over the thread until there was something he could jump onto that could lead to a mislynch, at which point he started going in depth and showing his analysis etc. But it's a single game for a player who has showed he can pull off great games as either alignment and change up his style. The closest this matches to is the first game he played here but even there he was much more reasonable and was actually giving reads. I might find some in an ISO but atm I don't remember him giving any reads at all so far this game except Ace (?) I can doublecheck later.

Anyways now that he's made a hard PR claim how do you feel about where he was leading things?

yes 100% to the first question.

i expected his early on jokes to either be a real softclaim or for him to just fake claim as either alignment. i don't agree on this analysis of his mafia game btw. he reads based off "what would/should X or Y role do" or "why would X or Y role do this" and makes similar reads when he's mafia as he does when he's town. like when he deathtunneled tae that one game. i'm pretty sure if he wasn't actually mafia he would have scumread tae for all the ate/uninvolvement/etc

As for the stuff in regards to Cake...like I'm not going to sit here and do some scientific breakdown of why wording 'slips' aren't successful, I'm just going by my specific experiences as a player and a spectator of games, I've seen this specific wordage slip accusation thrown around and I can't even remember a time when the person on the receiving end wasn't town.

oh yes THIS post is what i was looking for. i gave 2 actual examples where EXPERIENCED mafia did it so??? i'm pretty sure it's actually happened at least three times too but i don't remember the third game. the worst part about this post was that you defended cake and also listed them in a list you 'feel decent about' despite them mostly just figuring out the game format/mechs/playing like a new player, objectively speaking genuinely don't see any reason that you could have called them town for.

idk I just find this a bit reachy that just because someone isn't being controversial means they're wolfy for playing it safe, especially considering all the bs that has been discussed as it is, why start more of it?

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except i didn't call them mafia for making a "safe" post, i said it was a blend-y echo post that ironically only called attention the thing that they said contributed to the chaos.

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ugh messed up the quote

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i think i'm entirely alone in townreading aerious and not epona lol

i’m just saying. not going to write a defense when i’ve made my points, reasoning confirmed, etc. am still wario the townie at the end of the day

i think i'm entirely alone in townreading aerious and not epona lol

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this is NOT who i want lynched today but i just need to say that feferilys slot is 65% scum and i have absolutely no reason that i can give apart from i think they just got overwhelmed with flipping mafia, gave three excuses/"~i'll post later!~"s in game, and replaced out bc they were too behind in the thread and was worried to drop 2 late in the game for a rep.

the comment from bell account about relying on others to catch him up was zzzzz too

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heavy is the head that wears the crown

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i mean... teddy's only claim is that he's town? he didn't say vt or pr. he's hardly gonna be like 'ok i hardclaim mafia x'

omg what this is U??? u rly be a queen like that.

i thought this was some random celeb and i was so confused

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fwiw, if voltaire was mafia - they had no reason to flip the lynch randomly onto cake.

They would've asserted a lynch in advance that they knew most people agreed with, then lynched their target.

Instead volt stalled the lynch until basically the last moment, gave all their reads, and then flipped under pressure.

Imo that's really towny, and the ONLY, VALID, REASON, that volt would have lynched that as mafia is under the circumstance that you think they were trying to hiplynch a PR claim.

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GLAWO


ICONIC

this, is, abysmally bad reasoning, namely because if [X king] was reluctant to lynch a team member flipping onto someone that's sussed or not widely townread isn't really that controversial.

i think ur right about volt for the wrong reasons

glawo.

 

[shawo]

no, the reasoning isn't bad.

Voltaire isn't the type of player to engineer that as the king imo. Even I wouldn't do that because it's just... a lot of effort.

It would just be so much easier to push a lynch onto town then do some weird dance where you say ur gonna lynch mafia. Also unravel is tr.

glad i'm not the only one who thought Geoni had a lot of posts that made little sense. Tbh I also forgot about fefers slot lmao.

Unfortunately, I'm town.

 

[Fleshy]

I'm on mobile for the first half of today so excuse any formatting mistakes or if I miss anything or such.

fwiw i don’t scumlean volt because of the cake elim. i do think that one of the people up for elim were trying to appease to volt’s offhanded comment to get them to change their mind bc they were scum

to entertain this idea the only who did that was fleashy but I don't think this is enough for me to put the scumlean back on him considering how there wasnt even 1 person against their lynch

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fleshy*

If by 'offhanded comment' Aerious is replying to this;

guys i took a bath, opened my third eye and i think it's cake. discuss

Then no, I didn't. My only comment regarding Cake was much later, after the defensiveness and even then I said I didn't think it was AI. I didn't think you were seriously considering a Cake lynch, as if I did, I would have explicitly said I disagree. Out of the pool you had, I thought unravel was the best choice for D1 and I made that clear with my reads, nothing changed between then and the elim, for me.

can i just say that i find it interesting how hard ace is going on mafia mentality? i've not seen this from him before. he's thinking really hard abt why/what mafia is doing and pushing fairly hard that he's town.

also... people were going SO hard about "dont claim!!!! no don't claim!111!!!1!1!! stop claiming!!!" that.... everyone just let ace claim without much comment. just wanted to point that out.

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looking through mylifeiscake's posts and.. there was literally nothing to be sus about and that's just facts. she had a single page of posts at the end of D1 and hardly any of them were sus...? so.... ............. ..... who wants to answer for that?


@glow hi passionfruit, so if they're not aligned and we know dino was town... wanna revisit this?

I'm finding guava's posts increasingly questionable. The first point on Ace is at least slightly interesting and hasn't been mentioned, but everything else? Ace's 'claim' was discussed in detail, I was being scumread for even bringing it up, why bring it up now and not when it was being discussed?
Looking back at your posts you didn't have Cake on townread, hadn't even said anything about her, so you'd have as much to "answer" for there as anyone else not defending her, IMO. This, along with your forward question to glow seem, the word isn't coming to mind, but just stand out from the rest of your posts.
I'm not sure if I think you're scum, but your posts are reading as someone who's just being filled in with the main details and missing nearly everything else and reiterating safe points.

 

[unravel]

If I was volt he would execute me or fleshy by default I mean I would do the same tbh or shawo, but Cake is just too sudden and I dont see anything scummy side from them theyre just netrual to me

 

[bell account]

im amazed that not a single person has accused me of slank its impressive honestly

vote:aerious

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it rained both nights so i didnt get to see neowise but my friend took many dark sky pics and they are fab

 

[g u a v a]

im amazed that not a single person has accused me of slank its impressive honestly

vote:aerious

 

[Geoni]

Not only am I not the king but I tried to campaign against the kingmaker wanting to be kinged what is life.

Also...unacceptable that you went with the 2nd best choice for king Dino. But also I have had to sleep cycle and am going on a hiking trip today so let epona have it.

Just real quick I was getting a bunch of notifications about me wanting to build a towncore being either sus or 'bad play from an experienced player' like do you respect my experience or do you just not at all? Evidently glow never will. Building a towncore is about locking wolves in a PoE and not letting them run things, it's about spreading the influence of the threadstate so that one single person doesn't deathgrip it, it wins games for town and in not listening to my request you let that EoD go to poop @epona and I find it shady that you just straight up disregarded that.

I will actually be around for this EoD but won't really have much time to be active in the first half so please don't like early hammer me or something stupid I'd like to actually not die on the first two days without being heard and disenfranchised.

I'm not fully caught up either but I'm still going to assert what I said earlier about getting a shared PoE together, if you want me to call it something that isn't 'towncore'.

 

[epona]

hey i found the post



which mindmelds are you talking about? your post is off alignment with this sentence because instead of acknowledging or reinforcing points i made that you agree with you've just made comments on various lines of mine and it's hard for me to follow your train of thought, or what you're aiming at with them



i don't even halfway understand this

like i get your point was that you made other observations that i didn't and instead of discussing those you... mention me not commenting on anything else in the thread when it was mostly just bickering between dino/aerious? you have me mistaken if you think i comment on everything in a thread, or even type out most of my reads lol



yes 100% to the first question.

i expected his early on jokes to either be a real softclaim or for him to just fake claim as either alignment. i don't agree on this analysis of his mafia game btw. he reads based off "what would/should X or Y role do" or "why would X or Y role do this" and makes similar reads when he's mafia as he does when he's town. like when he deathtunneled tae that one game. i'm pretty sure if he wasn't actually mafia he would have scumread tae for all the ate/uninvolvement/etc



oh yes THIS post is what i was looking for. i gave 2 actual examples where EXPERIENCED mafia did it so??? i'm pretty sure it's actually happened at least three times too but i don't remember the third game. the worst part about this post was that you defended cake and also listed them in a list you 'feel decent about' despite them mostly just figuring out the game format/mechs/playing like a new player, objectively speaking genuinely don't see any reason that you could have called them town for.

except i didn't call them mafia for making a "safe" post, i said it was a blend-y echo post that ironically only called attention the thing that they said contributed to the chaos.

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ugh messed up the quote

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i think i'm entirely alone in townreading aerious and not epona lol


i think i'm entirely alone in townreading aerious and not epona lol

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this is NOT who i want lynched today but i just need to say that feferilys slot is 65% scum and i have absolutely no reason that i can give apart from i think they just got overwhelmed with flipping mafia, gave three excuses/"~i'll post later!~"s in game, and replaced out bc they were too behind in the thread and was worried to drop 2 late in the game for a rep.

the comment from bell account about relying on others to catch him up was zzzzz too

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omg what this is U??? u rly be a queen like that.

i thought this was some random celeb and i was so confused

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this, is, abysmally bad reasoning, namely because if [X king] was reluctant to lynch a team member flipping onto someone that's sussed or not widely townread isn't really that controversial.

i think ur right about volt for the wrong reasons

glawo.
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1. i am seeing massive parallels between geoni this game and geoni in sqeaky clean where we were scum together. he townread trundle that entire game citing 'midmelds' that weren't really developed/discussed, while at the same time keeping it sliiiiiightly open for doubt so he wouldn't seem totally left-field if he had to vote him later in the game
i think that's what he's doing with you, 'mindmeld' w a strong player and wallpost ur way out of being scumread. i need to look at who his scumleans are bc if i'm right, he is probably scumleaning a teammate bc he bussed me like crazy that game


2. idk if fefeirly slot is scum but the reason ur giving is wrong, i know for a fact she has an extremely stressful situation going on irl & w/o discussing her ~personal life~ i wasn't surprised when she subbed out

3, thank u x

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OMG HOW TF DID THAT QUOTE MESS UP SO BAD


my post starts here:


1. i am seeing massive parallels between geoni this game and geoni in sqeaky clean where we were scum together. he townread trundle that entire game citing 'midmelds' that weren't really developed/discussed, while at the same time keeping it sliiiiiightly open for doubt so he wouldn't seem totally left-field if he had to vote him later in the game
i think that's what he's doing with you, 'mindmeld' w a strong player and wallpost ur way out of being scumread. i need to look at who his scumleans are bc if i'm right, he is probably scumleaning a teammate bc he bussed me like crazy that game


2. idk if fefeirly slot is scum but the reason ur giving is wrong, i know for a fact she has an extremely stressful situation going on irl & w/o discussing her ~personal life~ i wasn't surprised when she subbed out

3, thank u x

nobody quote this bc it's messed up formatting just ping me

 

[g u a v a]

except i didn't call them mafia for making a "safe" post, i said it was a blend-y echo post that ironically only called attention the thing that they said contributed to the chaos.

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ugh messed up the quote

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i think i'm entirely alone in townreading aerious and not epona lol


i think i'm entirely alone in townreading aerious and not epona lol

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this is NOT who i want lynched today but i just need to say that feferilys slot is 65% scum and i have absolutely no reason that i can give apart from i think they just got overwhelmed with flipping mafia, gave three excuses/"~i'll post later!~"s in game, and replaced out bc they were too behind in the thread and was worried to drop 2 late in the game for a rep.

the comment from bell account about relying on others to catch him up was zzzzz too

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omg what this is U??? u rly be a queen like that.

i thought this was some random celeb and i was so confused

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this, is, abysmally bad reasoning, namely because if [X king] was reluctant to lynch a team member flipping onto someone that's sussed or not widely townread isn't really that controversial.

i think ur right about volt for the wrong reasons

glawo.

1. i am seeing massive parallels between geoni this game and geoni in sqeaky clean where we were scum together. he townread trundle that entire game citing 'midmelds' that weren't really developed/discussed, while at the same time keeping it sliiiiiightly open for doubt so he wouldn't seem totally left-field if he had to vote him later in the game
i think that's what he's doing with you, 'mindmeld' w a strong player and wallpost ur way out of being scumread. i need to look at who his scumleans are bc if i'm right, he is probably scumleaning a teammate bc he bussed me like crazy that game


2. idk if fefeirly slot is scum but the reason ur giving is wrong, i know for a fact she has an extremely stressful situation going on irl & w/o discussing her ~personal life~ i wasn't surprised when she subbed out

3, thank u x

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OMG HOW TF DID THAT QUOTE MESS UP SO BAD


my post starts here:


1. i am seeing massive parallels between geoni this game and geoni in sqeaky clean where we were scum together. he townread trundle that entire game citing 'midmelds' that weren't really developed/discussed, while at the same time keeping it sliiiiiightly open for doubt so he wouldn't seem totally left-field if he had to vote him later in the game
i think that's what he's doing with you, 'mindmeld' w a strong player and wallpost ur way out of being scumread. i need to look at who his scumleans are bc if i'm right, he is probably scumleaning a teammate bc he bussed me like crazy that game


2. idk if fefeirly slot is scum but the reason ur giving is wrong, i know for a fact she has an extremely stressful situation going on irl & w/o discussing her ~personal life~ i wasn't surprised when she subbed out

3, thank u x

nobody quote this bc it's messed up formatting just ping me
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me trying to figure out this post at 4 am