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it's not lmao. i wanted to avoid his blue claim play bc i've played w him off the forums, scumleaned him the entire time, and now i'm scumleaned for it love it here x
i actually don't think volt was mafia. i'm leaning on unravel/shawo. the only reason unravel could be town is bc no scumteam would be ok w her typing the stuff she has, but that doesn't negate possibility that shawo tried to save her life. as i said earlier, i think someone up for elim trying to shift volt to vote for cake is mafia
it's not lmao. i wanted to avoid his blue claim play bc i've played w him off the forums, scumleaned him the entire time, and now i'm scumleaned for it love it here x
i actually don't think volt was mafia. i'm leaning on unravel/shawo. the only reason unravel could be town is bc no scumteam would be ok w her typing the stuff she has, but that doesn't negate possibility that shawo tried to save her life. as i said earlier, i think someone up for elim trying to shift volt to vote for cake is mafia
you can't be surprised you're being scumleaned, you have to be aware when you pull of a claiming play like that that it's a huge possibility people won't trust you
unravel/shawo are not teamed, there's no way he's hard defending a scum partner like that. it was definitely tmi stand-out townie acting bc unravel was almost guaranteed to be the flip at that stage
unravel is town
you can't be surprised you're being scumleaned, you have to be aware when you pull of a claiming play like that that it's a huge possibility people won't trust you
unravel/shawo are not teamed, there's no way he's hard defending a scum partner like that. it was definitely tmi stand-out townie acting bc unravel was almost guaranteed to be the flip at that stage
unravel is town
i'm not surprised. you scumlean me every game bc i play chaotically, which goes against your playstyle. my patience is just -5 for reiterating the same point i've made 20 times. as i said, i'm either immediate nk to kill out townies asap, or the start of a wagon for mafia bc i forced myself into a position of low hanging fruit
but the second point leads into what i was saying. he could've been trying to inadvertently save someone else in the pool for elim. idk why everyone was so quick to townread him just bc he claimed pr when this is a stark difference to how he plays as town (from june maf)
Just to get this out there now. @epona do not execute shawo immediately when you have the ability to do so, wait until tomorrow before you do anything. I’d rather we get as much discussion out as possible before the deadline.
i'm not surprised. you scumlean me every game bc i play chaotically, which goes against your playstyle. my patience is just -5 for reiterating the same point i've made 20 times. as i said, i'm either immediate nk to kill out townies asap, or the start of a wagon for mafia bc i forced myself into a position of low hanging fruit
but the second point leads into what i was saying. he could've been trying to inadvertently save someone else in the pool for elim. idk why everyone was so quick to townread him just bc he claimed pr when this is a stark difference to how he plays as town (from june maf)
i get that you're tired of repeating yourself but i keep having to repeat this BECAUSE you keep repeating yourself
this is only the third recent game i've played with you recently
rads game i scumleaned you. you were scum.
shawo's game you were confirmed town from the start/???? so???
this game i am scumleaning you bc you're being SCUMMY
so that argument holds 0 weight. i'm sussing you and i'm town. not mafia starting a wagon lmfao we have been through this 100000 times
i have inserted myself into the towncore a grand total of once. in that post. like 2 mins ago
i have the unique advantage of being aware of my alignment, which is town. that is how role PMs work
therefore my towncore is
no offence but this is dumb
hammering and ending day early is recognised as a scum tactic to shut down discussion. if we have shawo confirmed as mafia we have the rest of the day to see people's reactions to him being exposed which helps world building and figuring out the rest of his team. only scum benefit from silencing the discussion by ending day early
there is literally nothing suspicious about what ness said at all
no offence but this is dumb hammering and ending day early is recognised as a scum tactic to shut down discussion. if we have shawo confirmed as mafia we have the rest of the day to see people's reactions to him being exposed which helps world building and figuring out the rest of his team. only scum benefit from silencing the discussion by ending day early
there is literally nothing suspicious about what ness said at all
i'm the only one who has the ability to end the day
i'm slightly insulted that ness thought i would go trigger-happy on my big fat execute button and kill shawo immediately, but scum!ness would have literally nothing to gain from the day continuing on to natural eod
i get that you're tired of repeating yourself but i keep having to repeat this BECAUSE you keep repeating yourself
this is only the third recent game i've played with you recently
rads game i scumleaned you. you were scum.
shawo's game you were confirmed town from the start/???? so???
this game i am scumleaning you bc you're being SCUMMY
so that argument holds 0 weight. i'm sussing you and i'm town. not mafia starting a wagon lmfao we have been through this 100000 times
if shawo said to kill cake bc "unravel is town," volt followed bc looked for guidance, could've been true that shawo was trying to spare one of the other 2 up for elim (dino, fleshy iirc) by trying to gain townie points w/ unravel flipping town. what i'm trying to say is there's a possibility of fleshy being scum and shawo trying to indirectly defend by latching onto unravel
shawo's game you said you would've scumread me if i wasn't confirmed town. just makes my point clear -- you scumlean people that play against ur playstyle. it does hold weight, doesn't matter if you disagree. it's the same way i automatically scumlean/null you bc i can't read you as town. you aren't confirmed town this game, which is why i'm saying idk why you're inserting yourself in towncore when it's rly just ness rn that's 100% town unless cc'd. us discussing this is a waste of time tho bc it's going in circles
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i fully believe ness is watcher, but i'm just waiting to see who ccs (prob shawo)
if shawo said to kill cake bc "unravel is town," volt followed bc looked for guidance, could've been true that shawo was trying to spare one of the other 2 up for elim (dino, fleshy iirc) by trying to gain townie points w/ unravel flipping town. what i'm trying to say is there's a possibility of fleshy being scum and shawo trying to indirectly defend by latching onto unravel
shawo's game you said you would've scumread me if i wasn't confirmed town. just makes my point clear -- you scumlean people that play against ur playstyle. it does hold weight, doesn't matter if you disagree. it's the same way i automatically scumlean/null you bc i can't read you as town. you aren't confirmed town this game, which is why i'm saying idk why you're inserting yourself in towncore when it's rly just ness rn that's 100% town unless cc'd. us discussing this is a waste of time tho bc it's going in circles
you literally said you think shawo defended unravel bc unravel is his scumbuddy. that directly goes against what i was saying
girl i'm confused
i agree that fleshy is possibly scum
i don't scumlean people who play against my playstyle. dino's playstyle is totally opposite to mine and i townread her this entire game. i'm scumleaning you bc you're doing scummy things
i am confirmed town to myself. it is my towncore. why the f would i not be in my own towncore. when i am town.
hammering and ending day early is recognised as a scum tactic to shut down discussion. if we have shawo confirmed as mafia we have the rest of the day to see people's reactions to him being exposed which helps world building and figuring out the rest of his team. only scum benefit from silencing the discussion by ending day early
Im still confused if shawo is mafia what would he gain his chaotic play from since day 1 then @shawo you have a lot of explaining to do why you visited dino last night. If no one else is CC and shawo didn't defend himself then he's obviously guilty i would be surprised if he's mafia trying to blend in and defending me so hard to take advantage of mislynching next day
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I still don't want to execute him right away this needs a huge explanation
i'm the only one who has the ability to end the day
i'm slightly insulted that ness thought i would go trigger-happy on my big fat execute button and kill shawo immediately, but scum!ness would have literally nothing to gain from the day continuing on to natural eod
What I'm trying to say is, yes ending day early would only benefit maf. Mafia themselves would know that, thus, no mafia, unless a new player with nobody experienced on their scumteam (not the case here based on the member list) would suggest ending early, it's too obvious.
If Ness had said "Shawo is scum, lynch as soon as you can", his claim would have been doubted, so why would he say that, scum or not? I'm not suggesting he is scum, but I'm not buying 100%.
shawo CCing watcher is dependent on scum!ness knowing the shawo, and nobody else, was the real watcher, bc then it just becomes a case of shawo's word against ness's
there's no way that ness would know that, and i don't think scum takes that risk and exposes ness day 2 anyway when we have 3 MLs left
Shawo/Aerious
Shawo/Geoni
Shawo/Sidney in all the chaos, there is order and this could be the deep wolf attempt
Shawo/Fleshy again for pointing out the town stuff about me and I been the clear target of Shawo King
No Teams
Shawo/Epona
Shawo/Ness
Shawo/Guava I don't see this happening, Guava would be more cautious if Shawo would be the claimer in this setup imo
What I'm trying to say is, yes ending day early would only benefit maf. Mafia themselves would know that, thus, no mafia, unless a new player with nobody experienced on their scumteam (not the case here based on the member list) would suggest ending early, it's too obvious.
If Ness had said "Shawo is scum, lynch as soon as you can", his claim would have been doubted, so why would he say that, scum or not? I'm not suggesting he is scum, but I'm not buying 100%.
i'm sure he would have just said.... nothing at all?
like ness is gonna be mechanically confirmed by the end of the day so plz put this energy elsewhere
