Mafia Island Madness - Town Wins

[FinalArcadia]

The way Geoni presents reads, of a game state that is long gone, so there is no point, since it does not apply to the present game.

The game may have moved on, but it doesn't make things that already happened any less useful IMO, especially if there's something that stood out enough to be worth commenting on

The stream of thoughts when Geoni was catching up early on feels like legitimately trying to catch up, read thoroughly, and seek out anything useful

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It feels like most people have had guava in their bottom 3, and there's been a decent bit of team spec if guava flips mafia, which helps going forward. Outside of a NL today, it just seems like solving guava now would be the best to move forward with

 

[dedenne]

who do we chop today. whats your bottom 3? i saw alot of nulls in your reads list

id say my bottom 3 atm are volt, ace and geoni. would prefer a volt or ace chop over geoni. dont want to chop u or shawo todya

 

[FinalArcadia]

BUT me no like-y math, so I dunno if not eliminating anyone ends up being the safer option, though that means banking on a clue from N2 being useful enough

 

[Damniel]

BUT me no like-y math, so I dunno if not eliminating anyone ends up being the safer option, though that means banking on a clue from N2 being useful enough

it depends on how many maf we have so ill run the numbers for our options when im outta class

 

[Ace Marvel]

id say my bottom 3 atm are volt, ace and geoni. would prefer a volt or ace chop over geoni. dont want to chop u or shawo todya

Wolf here.

 

[Damniel]

3 wolves, 1 town mod kill
D2 9 v 3
N2 8 v 3
D3. 7 v 3
N3. 6 v 3
D4 5 v 3
N4 4 v 3
Lose w N4 kill

3 wolves, 2 town mod kills (or 1 mod kill and 1 mischop) -
D2 9 v 3
N2 7 v 3
D3. 6 v 3
N3. 5 v 3
D4 4 v 3
Lose D4 mischop

4 wolves, 1 town mod kill-
D2 8 v 4
N2 7 v 4
D3. 6 v 4
N3. 5 v 4
D4 4 v 4
Lose w N3 kill

4 wolves, 2 town mod kills (or 1 mod kill and 1 mischop)-
D2 8 v 4
N2 6 v 4
D3. 5 v 4
N3. 4 v 4
Lose w D3 mischop


This doesnt consider in a vig kill, successful protects, or the vote stealing

there has to be 3 wolves. If we mischop and get a mod kill, the vote steal in lylo basically guarantees a loss


if theres a mod kill, there should be no chop IMO

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i mean we could chop here i guess

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ideally both slots just get replaced

 

[voltairenism]

the hope is that hikari is a mafia slot, although there is too much worldbuilding from it except that it probably clears dino
I think that if we are not really certain about who to chop today we might just wait for what will happen to the slots

 

[Damniel]

no i think we should get some chop options up and execute if there’s no modkills

alternatively we could also try to chop hikari’s slot lmao

 

[Dinosaurz]

I’m down for chopping hikari spot lmao

 

[Ace Marvel]

What if Alek spot is actually mafia?

 

[Geoni]

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What motivated to you to ask?

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Source: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Doctor Even the mafia wiki agrees that having 2 doctors is an unbalanced combination.

@Alek quit the game because most of you lack mechanics comprehension or are wolves.

They have a point. I also think the doctor claims both deserve more scrutiny than they've gotten so far.

 

[Dinosaurz]

I’m not denying that 2 doctors is weird as **** but I’m uncomfortable with the chance of risking killing doctor

 

[Geoni]

@shawo Are you really hardclaiming doc? Because I have a hard time seeing you use doctor as your obligatory pr-roleclaim knowing that you understand mechanics and yet you seemed to push that there can be two doctors as if it's plausible.

If you're town, more honesty, less fancy play.

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I’m not denying that 2 doctors is weird as **** but I’m uncomfortable with the chance of risking killing doctor

It's gamebreaking for balance and would completely townside things in combination with there being the clue thing. And the circumstances surrounding both of the claims is possibly wolfy so my point is we shouldn't not lynch between claims here necessarily. Unless it's someone I'm down compromising with like guava or Ace.

 

[Damniel]

What if Alek spot is actually mafia?

i just really dont think so

 

[Geoni]

id say my bottom 3 atm are volt, ace and geoni. would prefer a volt or ace chop over geoni. dont want to chop u or shawo todya

Why those two over me? Do you not want me going in on you?

 

[epona]

To be honest even both lucky and doctor being in the game is unbalanced

 

[Damniel]

To be honest even both lucky and doctor being in the game is unbalanced

i thought that too, but wanted to see if shawo would be hit, or Id die last night to see if it was possible

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i was looking to protect someone else tonight but i can protect myself if anything i guess

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generally i think shawo and i couldve been discussed D3 to see how night turned out

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i didn't think shawo would claim doctor as maf when there wasn't a real need to. if he's maf they're bound to kill me at some point and that'll bring the spotlight right to him. i was willing to see how night turned out

i could also see him do this as vanilla lol

 

[Geoni]

When a claim is made the way he made it for the sake of clearing himself he's less interested in solving the game and more interested in surviving through it and even though I'm still partial to Dan being real out of the two of them there's a distinct possibility he made the claim to buy himself more time when he couldn't fight away a possible D1 elim on him due to irl stuff having him busy because he's sitting here making takes I just can't get on board with at all right now and saying we should consider eliminating Hikari after Dinotown just explained she's also going to have to modkill Alek if no replacement is found. It adds insult to injury that Dan is mapping out how the game would go BEFORE bringing up a Hikari elim as a consideration.

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Lets not let Dan use the term 'we' here. Pronoun revoked!

 

[FinalArcadia]

Is it common for games to have the "there could be multiples of a role" disclaimer here?

like, looking at the list of possible roles, none of them seem realistic balance-wise for having multiple of them? But the fact that such a disclaimer exists at all is weird and kinda mafia-sided with all the options it opens up claim-wise

Both Lucky and Doctor in the same game would have the potential for a lot of clues to happen in the flavor, would that be too town-sided when coupled with so much protection?

 

[Geoni]

Everyone not Dan/Shawo, gun to head, if there was one mafia between Dan and Shawo who do you think it is? Neither is not an acceptable answer.