Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

[Aerious]

Where is heyden

a point of mine too. too many people lurking in the shadows to make a decent educated guess for d1 as of yet. what are you thinking of this thus far?

It’s likely the TV brainwashing of “the one who did it is the last person you expect” and nobody was blaming toad and if they did it seemed to die out quickly without much acknowledgement. (I could have missed or forgotten other instances though)

i wanted to branch off of this. toad made 4 posts defensively when epona mentioned appeal to emotion. why is it different when others do the same? why is it simply expected of toad and enough to switch the narrative?

 

[Damniel]

heyden is australian so he’s probs asleep rn. weird he didn’t come in yesterday but i feel he would’ve done so in either alignment if he could. hopefully he comes in later when it’s normal aussie hours

 

[toadsworthy]

Meta - a player’s typical play style. If you play 20 games of mafia with someone you’re going to become privy to how they play and come to expect things.

My meta is all over the place as far as AtE goes... if you wanna try to use that to say I’m scum, then it’s less likely to be true because I have several games of using AtE while town. And my posts weren’t defensive.... I was literally laughing at myself because Epona was saying, I’m gonna “wrinkle my nose at AtE” and I just thought it was a funny comment since I’m a player with a huge record of AtE

 

[Aerious]

Meta - a player’s typical play style. If you play 20 games of mafia with someone you’re going to become privy to how they play and come to expect things.

My meta is all over the place as far as AtE goes... if you wanna try to use that to say I’m scum, then it’s less likely to be true because I have several games of using AtE while town. And my posts weren’t defensive.... I was literally laughing at myself because Epona was saying, I’m gonna “wrinkle my nose at AtE” and I just thought it was a funny comment since I’m a player with a huge record of AtE

i don't think you're scum, i've said i don't think anyone's scum rn bc there's not enough info to make an educated guess/too many people haven't responded. from an outsider's perspective, it was a little odd to make that many posts to epona's thoughts. ty for the clarification

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wait but also though toad, you said you use ate regardless of town/scum in an earlier post. how is it less likely that you're mafia? if it's a 50/50 per your own words. there's no definitive way to determine which way you're aligning based on ate alone

Oh I mean nothing about it because you are right to be weary of AtE.... I’m mostly just laughing because I have had several games of me just bleeding AtE and like bad AtE, and ended up being town. I also then did the same stuff as mafia and coasted through on it, so it’s kinda like null if I do it this point.

not being accusatory, and i don't think you're scum based on it, but saying it's "less likely to be true" is false per what you've said earlier

 

[N e s s]

a point of mine too. too many people lurking in the shadows to make a decent educated guess for d1 as of yet. what are you thinking of this thus far?

I mean I think it's probably to be expected that at least one mafia could be a lurker lol, but I would have expected you to have at least someone to point to as mildly suspicious after about 18 hours. Almost everyone except Heyden has checked in if you count Frogslime, so... what are you thinking of this thus far? Do you have any reasonable doubt on someone?

I think that if anyone is kind of off to me, it's Shawo/Punchy/Bianca for reasons myself and others have stated. Everyone else isn't really setting off any radars for me but I might be missing something I'm just too lazy to analyze zzzz

 

[toadsworthy]

i don't think you're scum, i've said i don't think anyone's scum rn bc there's not enough info to make an educated guess/too many people haven't responded. from an outsider's perspective, it was a little odd to make that many posts to epona's thoughts. ty for the clarification

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wait but also though toad, you said you use ate regardless of town/scum in an earlier post. how is it less likely that you're mafia? if it's a 50/50 per your own words. there's no definitive way to determine which way you're aligning based on ate alone

not being accusatory, and i don't think you're scum based on it, but saying it's "less likely to be true" is false per what you've said earlier

less likely to be true in comparison to using it to scum read other players, or typical players

 

[g u a v a]

I think my shawo interaction is being largely misconstrued and for some reason I'm being highlighted as antagonistic, when all of that was reaction to Shawo not answering my questions.




so at this point shawo had 7 posts about game mechanics, I had previously been talking to aetherious about role-claiming, because he (sorry if wrong pronoun) brought it up. But I saw the vote and POLITELY asked if he had any other thoughts on the game.






So I had asked about your thoughts on your vote, and anything else in the game and you just staunchly didn't answer it and proceeded to just try to kinda of AtE with work about why you did that. So naturally YEAH I would get kind of annoyed by this, and I was, but I maintained composure which is a little hard for me if you played with me before lol.

I also wish you had actually answered my questions... because nothing in your posts said you "apologized for your vote" I read your posts... and your blah response about your vote also made me think you were actually going to stick by it. I was expecting you to say like "it was a joke vote" but instead you almost tried to justify it which was weird. and because you didn't answer my actual question I was like... so are you just gonna stay on that?





So at this point he had now voted on me. If you thought my posts so far were "aggressive" then you need some thicker skin because I just wanted some clarification on your erratic behavior. But for some reason that was enough to switch your vote for me...

I now find it really disturbing that you are trying to now say that I was antagonistic, when in the beginning of all this I was not rude, antagonistic, or patronizing.... YOU WERE. It is you trying to push a really bad case when the proof is not in the pudding. I'm sorry I didn't comment on anything else after this, but I was kinda over it after responses like this. Also you just clung to talking about mechanics throughout the whole time. Which as I said I don't disagree with anything you say about it, its just... I'm not gonna take that as contributions.

I rightfully did get a little more antagonistic at this point... because you had ignored 3 of my questions and were being spicy for no apparent reason to me.







SO that is how it truly went down last night... for anyone thinking I was the one antagonistic this is the order all of our interaction happened. I'm also not gonna let him now cherry pick my posts to try to put some weird and dumb case on me.

could I have looked into other things going on, yes. But I went from trying to tell someone talking about role-claiming to stop, to questioning someone, to getting annoyed that he just didn't answer my questions.

did this really require such a long exposé? you basically repeated the same thing throughout the majority of the wall post. why is nobody questioning this???

she was more focused on shawo. glow is a very huge asset if she is town , and if she is, i know she is going to pull through the later stages of the game

why do you think glow is a huge asset if she's town, meta?

Sorry I’ve been busy with real life stuff and haven’t been able to contribute. Where are we currently at?
Edit: Edited post because I spelled something wrong and it’s habit to edit to correct it for me. Sorry! Won’t happen again.

hi welcome :>

Okay so it’s not me just putting that out there now lol

uh huh sure e_e

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will post reads later for the folks that have posted, but for now i'd be comfortable voting for shawo simply bc of his weird behavior.

as dan mentioned there's been a change of tone, but i'm still sus. something about "i already did all the important analysis" doesn't sit right with me and doesn't seem very pro-town.

 

[toadsworthy]

@Mayor Leaf I repeated it to defend myself because I felt like I needed to bring up the actual progression of posts because shawo was cherry picking my posts to string together a bad case. so I just started from the start. the other long post before it was my gut reaction when i woke up... sorry for the wall posts

 

[g u a v a]

@Mayor Leaf I repeated it to defend myself because I felt like I needed to bring up the actual progression of posts because shawo was cherry picking my posts to string together a bad case. so I just started from the start. the other long post before it was my gut reaction when i woke up... sorry for the wall posts

hm. okay.

to be fair though none of the exchange between u/shawo led me to have any susses on you, your reaction just seemed a little over the top, like the accusation struck a nerve, or the truth maybe?

 

[epona]

prelim readlist

town:
epona

townleans:
ness
daniel

slight townleans:
lothiline
aerious

null:
pinkshade
fefirly
shawo
toads
frogslime
heyden (true null bc no posts yet)
bianca

null but leaning more scummy than the above nulls:
sensai
teddy345
punchy
mayor leaf
glow


i think that's everyone. to be honest i don't feel like i have anything concrete on anybody atm, the majority of the above is pure gut feeling lol but just wanted to put it out there to see if it generates any discussion

 

[Ace Marvel]

prelim readlist

town:
epona

townleans:
ness
daniel

slight townleans:
lothiline
aerious

null:
pinkshade
fefirly
shawo
toads
frogslime
heyden (true null bc no posts yet)
bianca

null but leaning more scummy than the above nulls:
sensai
teddy345
punchy
mayor leaf
glow


i think that's everyone. to be honest i don't feel like i have anything concrete on anybody atm, the majority of the above is pure gut feeling lol but just wanted to put it out there to see if it generates any discussion

Deja vu

 

[Biancasbotique]

did this really require such a long exposé? you basically repeated the same thing throughout the majority of the wall post. why is nobody questioning this???


why do you think glow is a huge asset if she's town, meta?


hi welcome :>



uh huh sure e_e

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will post reads later for the folks that have posted, but for now i'd be comfortable voting for shawo simply bc of his weird behavior.

as dan mentioned there's been a change of tone, but i'm still sus. something about "i already did all the important analysis" doesn't sit right with me and doesn't seem very pro-town.

yes meta ....glow is a very good townie

 

[epona]

EBWOP: teddy345 = Ace Marvel

soz i was reading from the OP player list and forgot he changed his username

 

[Ace Marvel]

Also join my glow wagon.

 

[g u a v a]

Aerious - town lean
Daniel - town lean
Punchy - town lean

Toads - null, but questioning whether or not scum
Shawo - null, but questioning whether or not scum

Lothitine - null
Ness - null
Teddy345 - null/pushing wagons tho
Feferily - x
glow - null
Sensai - null
Heyden - x
Pinkshade - null
Frogslime - null
Bianca - null
Epona - null

wow these really are crap huh?

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Also join my glow wagon.

why? glow posted three times so far.

 

[Aerious]

I mean I think it's probably to be expected that at least one mafia could be a lurker lol, but I would have expected you to have at least someone to point to as mildly suspicious after about 18 hours. Almost everyone except Heyden has checked in if you count Frogslime, so... what are you thinking of this thus far? Do you have any reasonable doubt on someone?

I think that if anyone is kind of off to me, it's Shawo/Punchy/Bianca for reasons myself and others have stated. Everyone else isn't really setting off any radars for me but I might be missing something I'm just too lazy to analyze zzzz

idk why my last post marked as edited btw, so clarifying rn i didn't change anything

if i were to say who i believe to be maf, i'm leaning on sensei who only gave a vague explanation after being brought up, frogslime is a decent point as well. punchy rn is null leaning maf, just due to ****posting and being evasive about thoughts

why shawo and not toad for you? also, why bianca?

less likely to be true in comparison to using it to scum read other players, or typical players

my bad, completely misinterpreted what you were saying. i apologize

 

[Ace Marvel]

why? glow posted three times so far.

Because I just feel like starting a wagon.

 

[g u a v a]

i didn't say i was eliminating anyone based off AtE

not really sure what all this 'i knew you were going to hate playing with me / you're gonna hate my playstyle so much / you would've killed me in so many games for my AtE' etc directed at me is hoping to accomplish?

just wanna highlight this again, any thoughts?

imo, could it just be toad trying to get a rise out of epona? or is it just friendly banter?

 

[toadsworthy]

@epona why the slight town lean on lothiline?

 

[g u a v a]

Because I just feel like starting a wagon.

hm. but why not start a wagon against someone with at least an ounce of scummy suspicions?