Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

[Damniel]

So a Jailkeeper is a really important role we should protect at all costs?

kills will be silent as long as the ninja is alive so i don't think it matters if they're roleblocked by the jailor

 

[SensaiGallade]

what's your analysis of EoD

I don't know yet I wanna look into it later today (it's currently 5am)

 

[Ace Marvel]

yes. jk is arguably the most important in this game (if we have one)

I have never played with one before, I'm really curious of this role. looking at the wiki it said it can be either mafia or town, wouldn't a mafia jk be way too op?

 

[shawo]

I hardclaim a pr.

Post automatically merged: Jun 19, 2020

No one else claim, I just think this is the right move.

 

[Feferily]

Tracker/Watcher visit their target and receives a visit. We have a dead watcher but watcher was probably one of the more useful roles. Generally if you have a visit it means one of two things. I'll just skip over that.

Same with tracker, except you're able to actually sort out kills.

If you're roleblocked a visit doesn't go through, so if you track someone and they have a visit, they can't have been roleblocked. (If someone claims they were doc/roleblocked on kill for example.)

So if anyone visits a kill they MUST be mafia.

Secondly, visits always go through if ninja is jailed. That means jailer should be going after the ninja every day, because it means that the visits actually mean something.

obviously doc is there.

also, if there's one mafia left I'm pretty sure the jailkeeper can roleblock them. So if we're in a situation where we know who last mafia is, jailkeeper can set up a code with the person they jail to confirm the fact that they were jailed.
This is especially useful as it can set up autowin in an end game position.

That's all the ones important to right now.

Oof. Mafia got in a good hit with Mayor.

 

[shawo]

There's two reasons I claimed.

One: I Just asked and it's possible for town to have more than one of the same pr.

Two: I'm not trying to be clear I think it just changes the dynamic of the game in an interesting way.

 

[Lothitine]

I don't know yet I wanna look into it later today (it's currently 5am)

Go to sleep!!
its currently 12:30 ish for me so I’ll probably sleep too

 

[voltairenism]

Based on Toads actions would you consider a Toad wagon as possible?

I can't advocate for my own lynch but for a moment I really thought I wasn't going to play lmao so it was very close (I offered to sub when toad said "hope someone replace me and i cant just stop playing" smth like that, so I knew for the whole mess that toads was town).

 

[Ace Marvel]

I hardclaim a pr.

Post automatically merged: Jun 19, 2020

No one else claim, I just think this is the right move.

I see, I see. I don't can't support this action.

Post automatically merged: Jun 19, 2020

mixed ideas I can't support*

 

[Aerious]

kills will be silent as long as the ninja is alive so i don't think it matters if they're roleblocked by the jailor

jk seems to be actual jailer role though, so it's the only investigative measure we have if it's in this game
Jailkeeper - Before night begins, you will PM me the name of the player you wish to jailkeep. You will then be placed in a quicktopic with them and able to talk to them for that night only. You may not reveal your identity or leave any hints of doing so. If you are roleblocked, the roleblock and protection of yours is worn off and no longer applies, but the quicktopic will remain open for the night. You may not jailkeep the same player consecutively.

I have never played with one before, I'm really curious of this role. looking at the wiki it said it can be either mafia or town, wouldn't a mafia jk be way too op?

it's town per this setup. idk about it being mafia in general, i can't speak on it

 

[shawo]

Basically the way I see it is that there's a chance that I get killed outright anyways, so at least by claiming I can mess with mafia's future actions.

Also the jailkeeper blocks the ninjas ability from working. If ninja is jailed the kill is trackable.

 

[Ace Marvel]

I can't advocate for my own lynch but for a moment I really thought I wasn't going to play lmao so it was very close (I offered to sub when toad said "hope someone replace me and i cant just stop playing" smth like that, so I knew for the whole mess that toads was town).

Volt you played with me a little last game, based on that and you scum reading, yes I know me being agro against Ae, change that a little. What os the key element that is making you sus me, I mean last game I wasn't on your good list, what is it now? Just curious. I ask because I think you can become a game changer in moments of need, not budding, you are null, but I'm curious.

 

[shawo]

Anyways I'll come back later with a set of concrete actions.

The mafia has no role-cop so there's a way to direct every action in such a way that town holds initiative. I think.

 

[Damniel]

I hardclaim a pr.

Post automatically merged: Jun 19, 2020

No one else claim, I just think this is the right move.

this is just your meta at this point

I have never played with one before, I'm really curious of this role. looking at the wiki it said it can be either mafia or town, wouldn't a mafia jk be way too op?

i mean it says it's a town role in the OP



@Remy no one is usually notified of being targeted unless they were protected and saved from a kill. the jailkeeper will get to talk with the target privately during night

 

[Ace Marvel]

Basically the way I see it is that there's a chance that I get killed outright anyways, so at least by claiming I can mess with mafia's future actions.

Also the jailkeeper blocks the ninjas ability from working. If ninja is jailed the kill is trackable.

You gave your reasons, but why now? and not during a more active hour or later on the day?

 

[Feferily]

What are you role claiming? And ah, alright.

 

[Ace Marvel]

i mean it says it's a town role in the OP

This game yes, but I'm asking in general.

Post automatically merged: Jun 19, 2020

What are you role claiming? And ah, alright.

A power role, not which but by this Shawo is letting us know, that they could be a doc, ninja, tracker, jail keeper etc.
Mafia should never claim their real role, but the can fake claim and say don't kill me I'm the doctor.

 

[shawo]

I think the best possible set of actions is...
Jailkeeper on me.
Doc on their townread/themselves.
Watcher on me.
Tracker on their townread.

There's possible for duplicate rolls.
Jailkeeper shouldn't claim to me instead I'll create a private code for the JK, if there's multiple I'll share the code.
Watcher on me confirms the existence of any jailkeeper.
Same thing with tracker, since the odds of them getting a kill in this circumstance is null.
I'm fairly certain my visit doesn't matter but I'll be following the rules of this.

The only downside of this is that we lose a night of using JK on potential ninja, but I think that's ok.

 

[Ace Marvel]

I Just asked and it's possible for town to have more than one of the same pr.
Is this legit? @radical6

 

[Damniel]

Mafia
Ninja - As long as you are alive, your factional kills cannot be seen.

Jailkeeper - Before night begins, you will PM me the name of the player you wish to jailkeep. You will then be placed in a quicktopic with them and able to talk to them for that night only. You may not reveal your identity or leave any hints of doing so.

also, if there's one mafia left I'm pretty sure the jailkeeper can roleblock them. So if we're in a situation where we know who last mafia is, jailkeeper can set up a code with the person they jail to confirm the fact that they were jailed.
This is especially useful as it can set up autowin in an end game position.

Also the jailkeeper blocks the ninjas ability from working. If ninja is jailed the kill is trackable.

these just aren't true