Mafia Just for Fun Micro! Shortnight- Town Win

[DinoTown]

and not sure on who you’re thinking of voting for for our team?

i strongly believe ace could replicate this well as scum and his early posts gave me ace!scum vibes

and because remy and dino are being towny now i'm inclined to think it's ace

I note a lack of answer to the question that I'd say is the more important one right now, Punch

 

[Ace Marvel]

Also Daniel saying you don't know my scum meta, how can you be sure? And everyone is buying it.
Guess what you don't know mine either.

 

[DinoTown]

Unless you vote Daniel, you will be killing town, so yeah I'm counting on you killing both townies, and at least we get one mafia.

Okay it's hard to think you're trying to actually help town when you're encouraging townie deaths and for the game to last longer?
If we kill both mafia today, town wins. Done. Game over. No townies need die.
Instead you're pushing for the method that involves killing two townies and hoping you get a mafia with a vengeance killing?
In what world is this helping town?

 

[Damniel]

Unless you vote Daniel, you will be killing town, so yeah I'm counting on you killing both townies, and at least we get one mafia.

what's make you so sure of me? Are you hard townreading punchy and volt then? Why? I don't recall you talking much on them

Also Daniel saying you don't know my scum meta, how can you be sure? And everyone is buying it.
Guess what you don't know mine either.

no one besides Punchy has played with me as scum. Unless you've read my scum games you don't know, right? I don't know anyone besides Punchy's scum meta (I wasn't paying attention to Shawo's game much for Volt), but I'm not the one saying X player would/wouldnt do this as scum cuz I just don't know

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Ace, out of your own team, do you think Dino or Remy are scum? I'm not sure of your current thoughts on them

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Unless you vote Daniel, you will be killing town, so yeah I'm counting on you killing both townies, and at least we get one mafia.

is this tmi

because wasn't ace pushing me?

 

[Feferily]

I’m going to vote Ace. Sorry hun but you’re playing even more anti-town than usual. And if you’re town and I’m wrong, then bigger apologies...

## Evict: Ace Marvel.

Also as for the other team... I’m gonna reread y’all a posts

 

[Ace Marvel]

Okay it's hard to think you're trying to actually help town when you're encouraging townie deaths and for the game to last longer?
If we kill both mafia today, town wins. Done. Game over. No townies need die.
Instead you're pushing for the method that involves killing two townies and hoping you get a mafia with a vengeance killing?
In what world is this helping town?

Because you are voting for me and wont change it! So I have to think of a way of making it effective for town to kill me, since you put Remy as an Angel.

And the other team like I said is more into team B than their own which only works in Daniel's favor.

Dino I woke up in the middle of the night to point out something, is the least mafia thing anyone has done during the game. So to answer @Damniel I was looking for the townie, and me being townie only lefts Remy as possible scum. And no one is better with control of the narrative than you. You were lucky Punchy defended Remy so much since the start, and if I'm wrong, it has to be Punchy slipping off.

So Town is:
Dino
Volt
Me
Punchy

Scum
Remy
Daniel

with the possibility of Daniel/Punchy in reverse roles.

 

[Feferily]

Because you are voting for me and wont change it! So I have to think of a way of making it effective for town to kill me, since you put Remy as an Angel.

And the other team like I said is more into team B than their own which only works in Daniel's favor.

Dino I woke up in the middle of the night to point out something, is the least mafia thing anyone has done during the game. So to answer @Damniel I was looking for the townie, and me being townie only lefts Remy as possible scum. And no one is better with control of the narrative than you. You were lucky Punchy defended Remy so much since the start, and if I'm wrong, it has to be Punchy slipping off.

So Town is:
Dino
Volt
Me
Punchy

Scum
Remy
Daniel

with the possibility of Daniel/Punchy in reverse roles.

I do wanna point out you've been very quick to switch wagon as long as it kept you alive in some way. I think you've swapped between Dino and me twice or more now. I'm also not sure why you now think I'm 100% scum and Dino can't be?

 

[DinoTown]

I do wanna point out you've been very quick to switch wagon as long as it kept you alive in some way. I think you've swapped between Dino and me twice or more now. I'm also not sure why you now think I'm 100% scum and Dino can't be?

Do wanna say this isn't really AI, at least in my opinion. Self-preservation is common in both mafia and town, as is being wishy-washy and uncertain with votes.

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You got any ideas for the other team yet, Remy, BTW?

 

[voltairenism]

Through all angles Punchy seems the most scum too me. I really yet to see Daniel being mafia but I'm going with seems a very reasonable vote, specially because he doesn't seem to have a town play and keeps considering himself as scum so I might do that as well

##Evict: PunchyTheCat

Ace reads seems really shallow and I can't understand what Dino did to be townlocked. Questioning this can't be a scum thing, so I don't understand sus on Daniel
I still feel so odd about Remy lol if they flip maf I will trust my gut a little more for next games but if I was on the other team I would go with Ace. He is doing something that feels different from the shawo game. It's little calcuted caos lol

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I mean questioning this isn't necessarily a scum thing

 

[DinoTown]

I really am trying to wrap my head around Ace's moves here.

As much as I can confidently say being so willing to die and purposefully wanting to mislynch twice instead of going for the mafia is... really not a smart play for a townie to make... where's the logic for mafia either? I think we've been so focused on individual teams that we forget the mafia have a chat too... so unless it's closed during the day, why the heck if mafia!Ace's teammate not screaming at them to chill and try and guide them a little more?

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@Biancasbotique is the mafia chat open during the day phase?

 

[Ace Marvel]

I really am trying to wrap my head around Ace's moves here.

As much as I can confidently say being so willing to die and purposefully wanting to mislynch twice instead of going for the mafia is... really not a smart play for a townie to make... where's the logic for mafia either? I think we've been so focused on individual teams that we forget the mafia have a chat too... so unless it's closed during the day, why the heck if mafia!Ace's teammate not screaming at them to chill and try and guide them a little more?

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@Biancasbotique is the mafia chat open during the day phase?

I've been saying this all game, but you scum read me.

 

[voltairenism]

I really am trying to wrap my head around Ace's moves here.

As much as I can confidently say being so willing to die and purposefully wanting to mislynch twice instead of going for the mafia is... really not a smart play for a townie to make... where's the logic for mafia either? I think we've been so focused on individual teams that we forget the mafia have a chat too... so unless it's closed during the day, why the heck if mafia!Ace's teammate not screaming at them to chill and try and guide them a little more?

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@Biancasbotique is the mafia chat open during the day phase?

maf veng kill. also can be AtE

 

[DinoTown]

I've been saying this all game, but you scum read me.

In fairness, much like I said, it has only just clicked in my head that "you would have a teammate who should be screaming at you to chill". I don't recall you mentioning anything relating to this specifically, and this is the basis on my sudden confusion on if it actually could be you.

 

[Damniel]

As much as I can confidently say being so willing to die and purposefully wanting to mislynch twice instead of going for the mafia is... really not a smart play for a townie to make... where's the logic for mafia either? I think we've been so focused on individual teams that we forget the mafia have a chat too... so unless it's closed during the day, why the heck if mafia!Ace's teammate not screaming at them to chill and try and guide them a little more?

I think Ace is trying to follow his chaotic play in either alignment. But if you look at what he's talking about, he was for dying to get the vig shot, but not invested in the other team and even originally wanted us to stay out of other team discussion. I'm believing that he's trying to follow his normal play style but instead of looking at the big picture, he's just caring about things revolving around himself which is a good way to post without talking about the other team (with his partner)

 

[Ace Marvel]

I think Ace is trying to follow his chaotic play in either alignment. But if you look at what he's talking about, he was for dying to get the vig shot, but not invested in the other team and even originally wanted us to stay out of other team discussion. I'm believing that he's trying to follow his normal play style but instead of looking at the big picture, he's just caring about things revolving around himself which is a good way to post without talking about the other team (with his partner)

At this point whatever you, volt or Punchy do, wont change Remy and Dino's votes so I have to work with what I have.

 

[DinoTown]

maf veng kill. also can be AtE

Very poor AtE tbh, only made us more mad lol.
While the mafia venge kill could be a thing, this relies on the fact that the other mafia is also not going to be lynched.
And, given I do currently still think your team's mafia is Punchy, who is set to be lynched, they should be going for a new strategy by now, surely?

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At this point whatever you, volt or Punchy do, wont change Remy and Dino's votes so I have to work with what I have.

I have literally just stated that I'm suddenly wary of voting you.
With the reassurance that you might not be our team kill... can you clean up your act a tad, please? Would help me make a more firm decision.

 

[Ace Marvel]

And if Daniel and I were a team, he would let me run wild, I don't do sudden changes of hard and start behaving, so you can't rule Daniel being scum.

Punchy do you honestly think I will be so upfront, and worse yet that my teammate mafia scum, would be so chill about it. I'll give you that it might be Volt.

2 mafia divided by two, it's easier to find the other townie, if you are really town the only information you have is your role. I'm just gonna say it idk like volt if mafia has a chat, all I know so far is that Punchy was super defensive of Remy and suss for doing the exact same thing that town read me the game before, an easy excuse to save both Remy and rather than looking how each team behaves, now I have to agree that we must look how members of different teams interact with each other.

@DinoTown me saying it

 

[Damniel]

At this point whatever you, volt or Punchy do, wont change Remy and Dino's votes so I have to work with what I have.

the reads and points one team makes is important to acknowledge when thinking about one's own vote and worldbuilding. Ignoring the other team is not a good things since we're in the same game?

 

[DinoTown]

the reads and points one team makes is important to acknowledge when thinking about one's own vote and worldbuilding. Ignoring the other team is not a good things since we're in the same game?

Exactly - do you see my point that it is a little hard to see Ace as having a teammate in this scenario?