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Maiana
🪴
i need to officially stan, i know some of their names and know one of their songs by heart ( you & i, a bop )
+ dami is so pretty,, i love her
you & i was my streaming song last night lmao
:0 dami's my bias....back off
jk she deserves all the love <3
Maiana
🪴
your mind is powerful, i stan
your gif is powerful, me and my cat stan
it's hard to admit that the kpop fandom is pretty toxic in terms, but ive only ever met great people
Thundawave
Internet Egg
Facts.
I was able to see them back in December when they toured, and they were incredible. <3
I'm slightly afraid of going anywhere near stan Twitter, so I just watch the MVs and dances. I joined a few servers for the emotes, but that's about it for my interaction with the Kpop community lol.
i never go on twt lmao
i have a few kpop friends who im just fine with interacting with!!
mermaidshelf
Siren
I love Kpop but I tend to like underrated groups/singers and I stay out of the fandom for the most part. I don't comment in forums or articles and I don't post about it unless it's like to show my collection or winnings from contests. Anyway, stan Loona.
i see a lot of groups that aren’t as /mainstream/ (e.g. not quite as popular as groups like exo or nct) so i’m here to promote my luvs!!!
onf — you won’t regret listening to why or we must love
weki meki — if you haven’t listened to picky picky, what are you doing with your life
cherry bullet — these girls really deserve all the love
the rose — if you’re into pop rock & indie, i’m sure you’ll like some of their releases
n.flying — stream rooftop!!!
wjsn (cosmic girls) — they’ve built up a fanbase, but their choreography is often overlooked ):
fromis_9 — their songs are super catchy!
the boyz — they only produce solid bops ;; fact checked (amazing members + personalities too!!)
onf — you won’t regret listening to why or we must love
weki meki — if you haven’t listened to picky picky, what are you doing with your life
cherry bullet — these girls really deserve all the love
the rose — if you’re into pop rock & indie, i’m sure you’ll like some of their releases
n.flying — stream rooftop!!!
wjsn (cosmic girls) — they’ve built up a fanbase, but their choreography is often overlooked ):
fromis_9 — their songs are super catchy!
the boyz — they only produce solid bops ;; fact checked (amazing members + personalities too!!)
SublimeDonut
Deep Sea Prisoner
recently i've been researching more and more about the korean entertainment industry and consequently, kpop, and everything's so downright terrifying. Brushing aside the fact that the music is extremely corporate-ish, with the singers having zero creative control, which is already something really irksome to me, the way these stars get to where they are sounds horrific.
They get in 7 year contracts, they lose most of the money to the managers, they have to starve themselves, they train and train until they pass out, they have to see the other trainees as oponents and never as friends, all without any garantee of success since they can be discarded at any step across the way. Endorsing these groups, endorsing this industry, seems to me analogous to endorsing porn or something... everyone knows it's bad, everyone knows it hurts the workers, but people prefer to ignore the toxicity in order to keep entertaining themselves. only difference is porn watchers don't pretend for one second to care about the safety and health of the actresses and actors. and kpop fans always treat the idols like they're their friends, relatives or boyfriends. yeesh...
They get in 7 year contracts, they lose most of the money to the managers, they have to starve themselves, they train and train until they pass out, they have to see the other trainees as oponents and never as friends, all without any garantee of success since they can be discarded at any step across the way. Endorsing these groups, endorsing this industry, seems to me analogous to endorsing porn or something... everyone knows it's bad, everyone knows it hurts the workers, but people prefer to ignore the toxicity in order to keep entertaining themselves. only difference is porn watchers don't pretend for one second to care about the safety and health of the actresses and actors. and kpop fans always treat the idols like they're their friends, relatives or boyfriends. yeesh...
mayortiffany
Senior Member
I'm not really a fan. Fandom is super intricate and seems quite intimidating to me (so many acronyms! fan chants! so much merch!). I also don't agree with K-Pop industry and how hard they push their idols. I know that that also exists in the western music industry too, but I think it is particularly abhorrent in K-Pop. Oh, and some of the cultural appropriation isn't cool either.
In general, I find it hard to connect to music that isn't in my native language, so problems with the industry aside, I don't think it'd be for me.
That being said, I liked some of BTS' old music when it was more rap focused, but I'm not a fan of their newer stuff.
In general, I find it hard to connect to music that isn't in my native language, so problems with the industry aside, I don't think it'd be for me.
That being said, I liked some of BTS' old music when it was more rap focused, but I'm not a fan of their newer stuff.
Yeosin
proud citizen of the nation of Aerious
I think you are making a lot of generalizations. Even in the West very few of our pop artists have creative control prior to their mainstream success. Other genres, such as Indie, rap, etc have more freedom but so do they in K-Indie, K-rap, k-etc. Pop music is by nature very formulaic, and that's okay.
The strict diets are unfortunately common but not for all agencies/idols. At the end of the day, as trainees, they sign up for this. It's no different than how a professional athlete trains for intense sports. Wrestlers often drop weight, gymnasts and dancers also are known to go to extremes and push their bodies to the maximum.
Trainees are often friends, they know what they signed up for-- they aren't always competitors as many trainees form friendships that last beyond idol days. They're going through these hardships together. Again, just like top-tier athletes in single-player sports. Looking at Kpop as a parallel to top tier sporting competitions helps make it seem "less crazy", imo. You can train with a good gymnast friend to see who will do better on rings at a competition, but at the end of the day you can still be friends regardless of who wins.
Also, comparing k-pop to p*rn is absolutely insane. P*rn isn't objectively bad, that's an intense moral assumption you're making. S*x work is valid work. P*rn doesn't always hurt the workers lol-- they signed up for the scene and in addition to that are briefed, at least in professional situations, as to what will happen prior. Some actors and actresses in the p*rn industry have a "will not do"-style list of scenes they won't film. Please refrain from making such bold, inaccurate statements on each side and presenting them as fact.
I personally don't like the k-pop industry at large and agree they have a LOT of fixing to do, but to make such bold opinionated and generalized statements as fact is unsafe and unfair to both the k-pop and p*rn industries.
namiieco
Senior Member
100% agreed
Many groups have creative control in terms of concepts for albums, increasingly as the group becomes more experienced. There are also many groups which actively take part in producing songs and whole albums. Stating that no singers have any creative control is just.... incorrect. The reason why some groups don't have (or seem to not have) this creative control is because they've signed the contract to be a kpop idol. Kpop is targeted to a young audience, idols are supposed to be an older figure in teenager/young adults lives that they can look up to and find comfort in. What is so bad about having little creative control? Creative freedom isn't what the esscence of being a kpop idol is.
Day6 is a kpop band which produces & writes all their songs. Kpop is an umbrella term, and theres a lot more to it than just bubblegum pop. Their new release Zombie is a beautiful example of a group having creative control. It has themes that resonate with everyone, regardless of age.
i know our fandom could be toxic and problematic, but beyond that is amazing people ): i've always felt so lonely and insecure when i was a closeted fan, but i finally met some people that i could feel comfortable with; met them through our love for 1the9 <3
