Let's talk vaccines!

[Red Cat]

i'm waiting to try and get vaccinated until i feel like i won't die of a blood clot or something.

Blood clots from Covid vaccines are extremely rare. The new delta variant of Covid is way more dangerous than any vaccine. You're much, much more likely to regret waiting too long to get the vaccine than you are to regret getting it too early.

 

[tessa grace]

Blood clots from Covid vaccines are extremely rare. The new delta variant of Covid is way more dangerous than any vaccine. You're much, much more likely to regret waiting too long to get the vaccine than you are to regret getting it too early.

I second this. As somebody who has suffered and continues to suffer from long time effects of covid, I would say the side effects of the vaccine are way less risky or dangerous than the side effects of the virus itself

 

[deana]

I got my second dose yesterday I was waiting to post in here so that I could also update about side effects because I know some people are curious about those.

So yesterday my appointment was in the morning, I did feel a little bit tired after that so I had an afternoon nap and went to bed early. When I woke up this morning I had a headache which I think was vaccine related (it felt different than my usual headaches like it was coming from the center of my head?) so I took an ibuprofen and drank two big glasses of water. And by now I feel completely fine, didn't need to take any additional medicine just the one ibuprofen this morning. I've heard a lot of people say they had worse side effects for the second dose so I feel pretty fortunate that I didn't experience anything serious. I had pfizer for both doses and my doses were 6 weeks apart.

My arm also hurts a lot less than it did the first time around but I don't know if that was related to anything I did or maybe this second nurse was just more gentle with me lol

 

[maria110]

Fully vaccinated and loving it. I got the Pfizer and it was a rough couple days afterward for both shots (it made me tired) but it's a great relief to know that, even if I contract the virus, there's less likelihood of the illness being severe and requiring hospitalization.

 

[oak]

I just got my second shot! I'm glad this is done and over with.

 

[Mikaiah]

my moms an anti-vaxxer but me and my dad basically snuck out to get ours a few months ago.
my brother is 18 so he can get his if he wants too but he's "too lazy to"
>_>

as for needles, i told both my administrators that i didn't like them so i just turned my head away and asked them to go for it without counting down or anything. it's how i get most of my shots.
side effect, my arm was sore for 2 days after each shot (i got pfizer) but other than that nothing else really happened. drank a lot of water before and after and did arm circles during my 15mins.

as for the blood clots, the chance is approximately 0.000002% for astrazeneca and if im remembering correctly, even lower for j&j. and the general prevalence of that type of blood clot amongst the general population is also like 0.000002%. and for other severe side effects, well, they tend to show up immediately that's why they monitor you for 15min after you get the shot.

 

[~Kilza~]

I ended up getting my second dose of Moderna last Thursday, close to 2 months after getting my first dose! Ended up going to the same pharmacy and had the same person administer my shot as last time, so I wasn't as nervous for it (even though I feel like I felt the needle a tiny bit more this time, lol). But, yeah, 72+ hours later and I'm feeling fine. I only had a sore arm last time, and a sore arm this time, though it didn't feel as sore? Otherwise I didn't have any other side effects, which I definitely feel fortunate about! Now I'll be fully vaccinated in 11 days and still not go anywhere, lol.

 

[Stikki]

Had my first last month, got my second booked on the 24th of this month. All that happened after my first is that my arm went sore the following night.

 

[tomatospooks666]

I second this. As somebody who has suffered and continues to suffer from long time effects of covid, I would say the side effects of the vaccine are way less risky or dangerous than the side effects of the virus itself

i'm pretty sure literally dying is as bad as it gets, plus telling me how rare it is doesn't tell me what to do if it happens, so i'll just wait in my cozy blanket fort til it seems like it's not just "hope u don't get a bad reaction that literally kills you and nobody cares" yeah?

 

[TillyGoesMeow]

I've now been vaccinated for two months & have been loving feeling more protected. I don't think I ever initially posted but I got the moderna and only had the arm swelling the day after. Other than that, I've been feeling better mentally, knowing I'm safer. Just wanted to put more positivity into this haha.

 

[tomatospooks666]

i'm pretty sure literally dying is as bad as it gets, plus telling me how rare it is doesn't tell me what to do if it happens, so i'll just wait in my cozy blanket fort til it seems like it's not just "hope u don't get a bad reaction that literally kills you and nobody cares" yeah?

and for the record, i'm not saying i'm never getting the vaccine, just i'm waiting for something besides "IT'S A RARE SIDE EFFECT" to assure me i won't die of a blood clot

 

[WaileaNoRei]

i'm pretty sure literally dying is as bad as it gets, plus telling me how rare it is doesn't tell me what to do if it happens, so i'll just wait in my cozy blanket fort til it seems like it's not just "hope u don't get a bad reaction that literally kills you and nobody cares" yeah?

unfortunately, as with many things in life, there is no 100% risk free option.

you could also die from COVID, or if infected pass on the disease to someone else who would die. That’s not said to guilt you or scare you, but to explain why everyone is citing the rarity of blood clots from the vaccine. It is more unlikely to get blood clots from the vaccine than it would be to have complications from COVID or a side effect of COVID, which also can lead to death. For example have a 10 times higher risk of getting blood clots as a side effect/ complication of COVID than from the vaccine.

maybe you are able to fully lock down and see no one in order to effectively reduce your risk of getting the disease. Otherwise, while yes it is understandable to be scared by a very very small chance of something going wrong (we all have these fears and I think it is part of being human), it is far more risky in this case to not be vaccinated.

If you are worried about knowing what to do in case of suspected vaccine side effects, I think you could ask your doctor or take a look at a legitimate public health information source online.

 

[Stikki]

i'm pretty sure literally dying is as bad as it gets, plus telling me how rare it is doesn't tell me what to do if it happens, so i'll just wait in my cozy blanket fort til it seems like it's not just "hope u don't get a bad reaction that literally kills you and nobody cares" yeah?

A friend of mine died of covid earlier this year. Whilst that's also rare, it happens and is far more likely than getting a blood clot from the vaccine, if you don't already have an underlying issue that might affect it.

Everything comes with a risk - I used to be terrified of flying. Whilst it was easy for people to say that the likelihood of the plane crashing was very low, to me if it happened there was no way out, it was literally the end. But I made myself do it - I even sat by the window and forced myself to look out, which has helped me a lot - because otherwise I was holding myself back from experiencing my life at it's fullest. Can you think of the jab as the same perhaps? Whilst that blanket fort might be comfortable for now, whilst you're hiding in there you could be missing out on the rest of your life in the meantime?

 

[tomatospooks666]

unfortunately, as with many things in life, there is no 100% risk free option.

you could also die from COVID, or if infected pass on the disease to someone else who would die. That’s not said to guilt you or scare you, but to explain why everyone is citing the rarity of blood clots from the vaccine. It is more unlikely to get blood clots from the vaccine than it would be to have complications from COVID or a side effect of COVID, which also can lead to death. For example have a 10 times higher risk of getting blood clots as a side effect/ complication of COVID than from the vaccine.

maybe you are able to fully lock down and see no one in order to effectively reduce your risk of getting the disease. Otherwise, while yes it is understandable to be scared by a very very small chance of something going wrong (we all have these fears and I think it is part of being human), it is far more risky in this case to not be vaccinated.

If you are worried about knowing what to do in case of suspected vaccine side effects, I think you could ask your doctor or take a look at a legitimate public health information source online.

fair enough. i want to get the vaccine, really, but thinking that all the doctors care about it shoving a barely tested vaccine into people and sending them off to deal with whatever possibly deadly side effects alone. not a fun thought.

i'd feel more comfortable if there was sorta a safety net of sorts if something did happen, rather than being told "everything is risky, deal with it lol"

A friend of mine died of covid earlier this year. Whilst that's also rare, it happens and is far more likely than getting a blood clot from the vaccine, if you don't already have an underlying issue that might affect it.

Everything comes with a risk - I used to be terrified of flying. Whilst it was easy for people to say that the likelihood of the plane crashing was very low, to me if it happened there was no way out, it was literally the end. But I made myself do it - I even sat by the window and forced myself to look out, which has helped me a lot - because otherwise I was holding myself back from experiencing my life at it's fullest. Can you think of the jab as the same perhaps? Whilst that blanket fort might be comfortable for now, whilst you're hiding in there you could be missing out on the rest of your life in the meantime?

i mean, if i'm going on a flight, there'd realistically be backup plans and safety measures in place. so it's not just "if something goes wrong, guess we're done for"

i guess i'll try to find out more about the risks of the vaccine, tho, because i do want it, just with a little more assurance then just being told that everything is risky.

 

[WaileaNoRei]

fair enough. i want to get the vaccine, really, but thinking that all the doctors care about it shoving a barely tested vaccine into people and sending them off to deal with whatever possibly deadly side effects alone. not a fun thought.

i'd feel more comfortable if there was sorta a safety net of sorts if something did happen, rather than being told "everything is risky, deal with it lol"



i mean, if i'm going on a flight, there'd realistically be backup plans and safety measures in place. so it's not just "if something goes wrong, guess we're done for"

i guess i'll try to find out more about the risks of the vaccine, tho, because i do want it, just with a little more assurance then just being told that everything is risky.

i wasn’t trying to say ‘everything is risky, deal with it’ but ‘everything is risky to different degrees and you have to make educated decisions about how to most limit your risk based on all the information available’ and to point out that not getting vaccinated is also a choice which presents specific risks, in many cases greater than the vaccine.

I think characterizing what is happening as doctors leaving patients to deal with the potential side effects alone is a major mischaracterization of the facts though. Side effects are being extensively covered by news media and studied by medical researchers. Perhaps they are so well covered that it overshadows the risks of not getting vaccinated. There are tons of resources available should you have an adverse reaction to the vaccine. You mentioned that in a flight ‘if something goes wrong there are backup plans and safety measures’. I do not know where you heard there are no safety measures, treatments, or care measures available for vaccine side effects, but that is completely false. There are a ton of accessible ways monitor and to receive care for vaccine side effects. Starting before you get the vaccine you can talk to your doctor about whether you are at greater risk for any of the known side effects, into the 15 minutes after you receive your shot and are held for observation, and continuing after you go home in the form of information you will be given on what symptoms could indicate a complication and what to do if you feel you are having a bad reaction. (Even the blood clot risk you mention is not inevitable fatal)

while the COVID vaccines are new, the technology has been in development for decades and so in my view we know far more about them than we know about COVID, which has only been around for about a year and a half. I agree it is better to talk to a doctor and seek out educational information in order to learn more about the risks you face.

again, the point isn’t to shame you or scare you, or even prove myself right (I do not know your medical history after all, and am not a medical professional) but I think it is important to be fully informed about all of your risks and options when making a decision like this. Your plan of learning more sounds like a great idea. Good luck to you.

 

[tessa grace]

i'm pretty sure literally dying is as bad as it gets, plus telling me how rare it is doesn't tell me what to do if it happens, so i'll just wait in my cozy blanket fort til it seems like it's not just "hope u don't get a bad reaction that literally kills you and nobody cares" yeah?

its more likely to get worse, life threatening side effects of covid though??

also thought i'd add these stats to anybody wondering-

now i understand that the 19-20 flu season is over so obviously its going to be more high, but i'm trying to show that all vaccines have risks and side effects. and most people don't suffer from this. we obviously only hear the worst in the news and what grabs people's attention. we're hearing about the small minority who has died/gotten sick, not the much larger majority. it's not just the covid vaccine, its all vaccines.

 

[Red Cat]

fair enough. i want to get the vaccine, really, but thinking that all the doctors care about it shoving a barely tested vaccine into people and sending them off to deal with whatever possibly deadly side effects alone. not a fun thought.

i'd feel more comfortable if there was sorta a safety net of sorts if something did happen, rather than being told "everything is risky, deal with it lol"

Most doctors and other medical professionals were among the first people in line to get the Covid vaccine, so they were taking the biggest risks getting vaccinated if there were risks. If you get a Covid vaccine, it's almost certain that the person administering the shot has been vaccinated themselves, so it's not like they're injecting you with some mysterious substance that they would never take themselves. Vaccines have been around for over 100 years so they're not new. This particular flavor of vaccine is newer, but that's only because the virus has been around for less than two years. I can't think of any other drug that has been taken by hundreds of millions of people worldwide. Given the massive number of people who have received the Covid vaccine, you would know if there were a high risk of severe side effects because you would have thousands if not millions of people experiencing those side effects. But we haven't heard of that happening because severe side effects from the vaccines are less likely than getting struck by lightning. From that standpoint, the Covid vaccines are likely among the safest drugs in the world.

Once again, the Covid virus is orders of magnitude more dangerous than the vaccines are. The only thing that's safer than getting the vaccine is never being near any other person ever because anyone who you come in close contact with can potentially pass the virus on to you. Even vaccinated people can have asymptomatic cases, so you're not truly safe around even vaccinated people if you are not vaccinated yourself. Covid has significantly reduced overall life expectancy worldwide due to all of the people it has killed, so the easiest thing you can do to improve your life expectancy is to get the Covid vaccine. Getting the Covid vaccine only requires spending a half hour to get one or two doses depending on the vaccine. Other things that improve your life expectancy like diet and exercise require long-term commitment, so if you want to live as long as possible, it's best to start with the low-hanging fruit and get vaccinated against deadly diseases that can quickly kill you regardless of whatever else you do to stay healthy.

While it's understandable that you want to gather as much info about the vaccine as possible, keep in mind that Covid isn't going to wait for you to make a decision and every day that you hesitate to get vaccinated is another day that you can potentially get the virus and then it's too late. This isn't intended to rush or scare you, but these are just the facts.

 

[Dwayne Johnson]

regret

 

[King koopa]

Updated my vote because I'm fully vaccinated and free to go wherever I want now that doesn't have a lot of people

 

[PugLovex]

i am fully vaccinated! for someone who is extremely afraid of needles, i handled it very well

what surprised me is that so many people went through after effects of the second dose/said it hurt more, but i had no side effects and my first dose actually hurt more. my second dose kinda tickled LOL