Let's talk vaccines!
- Thread starter Shawna
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I would love if everyone was required to get vaccinated. They already do it for school. Why should work and travel be any different? Proof of vaccination should be required to enter any building.
Violet Witch
☽Stay Wild Moon Child☾
I do. The only way we're ever going to return to some sort of normality is if we're all vaccinated and the more the better I say. Personally I'm tired of hearing from those who don't want it because they don't trust the science and think they know better than the scientists who have spent years studying diseases, genetics and all manner of scientific subjects most of us have no idea about.
_Donut_
Don’t eat me. I have a wife and kids. Eat them.
My age group isn't up for another couple months but last week I did register myself on a standby list for my City so fingers crossed that I maybe can get it a bit sooner. As I work in the travel industry and basically my entire industry is dependent on people getting vaccinated, I would love to see these vaccinations speed up even more ._.
Shawna
AroAce, ASD, and Proud ^^
My stance on vaccine mandates is rather complicated.
On one hand, we want as many people as vaccinated as possible. And by mandating them, we will have no choice to get the vaccine, whereas the process could be a lot slower if they remain optional. By mandating vaccines, it could very well make the pandemic end considerably quicker.
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However, on the other hand, vaccine mandates can come with potential issues:
Issue #1: Protests.
By mandating vaccines, this could cause an onslaught of public complaints like "IT'S MY CHOICE!!!", "THE VACCINE IS RISKY", etc.etc. and this could cause things to get ugly with drama and whatnot.
Issue #2: Allergies.
Now, I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard there could be people who are allergic to the vaccines, and forcing them to get it could cause server allergic reactions and severe side effects.
Issue #3: Inability To.
No, I am not talking about people who are just not eligible by age yet, as we all know that this vaccine will just take some time to get rolled out to everyone.
I am talking about other issues that will contribute to a person's inability/ineligibility to. Take myself for example: There is a good chance that I will be unable to get vaccinated until this pandemic is even over, because my grandma told me that you have to have an ID to be able to do so, which I will not be able to get until this pandemic is over. I heard from a fellow Texan that passports will work as a piece of identification, but I do not have that either (let's be honest: I don't see myself traveling out of the US ever in my life, let alone anytime soon)
But I also heard from another person on this thread that some other alternatives can work. My dad (me and my brother still live with him) will just have to see what we have to do. I do have reasons why it wouldn't hurt to wait, but ultimately it's probably best to get the vaccine as soon as possible. There are other issues that may contribute to this too (like not having transportation), but the one I just explained is probably the biggest one.
While I HIGHLY RECOMMEND people to get this vaccine, I feel like trying to FORCE people to get this vaccine against their will, before they are ready to, or before they are even able to is a bit...insensitive for lack of better words. We don't know what type of situations people are in. If vaccine mandates are instituted before I can get my ID (providing what my grandma said is true and I wouldn't have another way), I am gonna get very upset, because if what my grandma said is true, I would be in quite the predicament, especially if you need proof of vaccination to enter the DMV. See the issue? You have to do this to do that, but you have to do that to do this. This is a prime example of a catch-22 situation.
If they do mandate the vaccines, I hope that IDs or anything of the sort will not be required anymore, as some people do not have or are unable to obtain such a tool yet.
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Then again, like I said in the beginning, I feel like mandating vaccines will probably be the push we all need to end this pandemic as soon as possible. If face masks are mandatory, then why shouldn't vaccines be? Face masks are not even the main key to stopping this pandemic, whereas the vaccines ARE.
In conclusion, I do support, and don't support vaccine mandates at the same time.
I support vaccine mandates. I don’t understand anyone’s point in being a cry baby about it when they already have to show proof of vaccines for their children to go to school. Maybe not needed everywhere but I think it makes total sense for them to be required at places like the airport. I feel like I have a lot more to say about it but I’ll leave it at that lol
I don’t support government mandates on anything. The government shouldn’t be forcing people to do anything they don’t want to do. This includes vaccines. I also have an issue with schools requiring certain vaccines. I actually got away with not getting the check-up in eleventh grade, somehow, which I believe is required for US schools. They sent the papers multiple times to the home address, and nothing ever came from it. To get back on topic, I would definitely not be okay with requiring vaccines to enter their buildings. People need to shop and people need groceries. There are delivery options available, but people need to work. I don’t think requiring them for work is fair at all, as people need an income source in order to survive. Mandates in general do more harm than good.
It’s better to get vaccinated than to have to shut down your whole business because your employees all caught covid.
KrazyKarp
Senior Member
I think Shawna summed it up quite nicely. In an ideal world, we'd have vaccine mandates. In reality, vaccine mandates also would require a list of valid exceptions, because there are various circumstances that call for exceptions. And no, not believing in the science is not an exception. And not wanting to get vaccinated "because I don't want to" is also not a valid reason. You must have an actual, legitimate reason that would qualify you for an exception. To be blunt, getting the population vaccinated is more important than someone's own personal feelings of "I just don't trust it" or "meh I'm good, I don't want it" or things like that.
What I'm saying is a blanket statement for many vaccinations in general, covid and otherwise. Can you imagine if a bunch of college students were just like "meh, I'm good, I don't need the meningitis vaccine"? Absolute chaos.
tl;dr vaccine mandates with a list of legitimate exceptions should be done
What I'm saying is a blanket statement for many vaccinations in general, covid and otherwise. Can you imagine if a bunch of college students were just like "meh, I'm good, I don't need the meningitis vaccine"? Absolute chaos.
tl;dr vaccine mandates with a list of legitimate exceptions should be done
Violet Witch
☽Stay Wild Moon Child☾
I couldn’t have put it better myself.
Although I’d like to add that getting vaccinated is also better than potentially ending up in hospital on a ventilator or worse... dying.
I just don’t understand how some can’t come to the same logical reasons and get vaccinated not just for themselves but for those they love and care about as well.
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sleepydreepy
legendary egg
Just got the first dose of Pfizer this afternoon! The initial shot didn't hurt at all and I barely felt the needle, but on my way home my arm started getting sore and still is sore now. They told me it was normal and over the next few days it may hurt a little more. I'm not too worried though, I'm just really thankful I was able to get it today!
Can confirm this is true - Two of my friends got their vaccines so far, and both of them had to take a day off work after they got the shots because they just straight up didn’t feel well. Both of them are very athletic too and rarely get sick.
I agree with @Shawna and @KrazyKarp that it is complicated. Unlike other vaccines that have been in circulation for decades, the COVID vaccines are still relatively new and so there are still unknowns. When I received my first dose, they gave us paperwork explaining that the vaccine we were receiving (Moderna) was still not FDA approved, so they were basically warning us that we were shouldering the responsibility if we had any serious side effects. And that was a risk I was willing to take, but do I think others should be forced to? No, not yet.
Once there is more data, more experience with the vaccine, and it is fully approved, then I would have no problem if it became mandated along with obvious exceptions made based on people's medical histories, etc.
Vaccines have done so much good, literally making serious illnesses of the past practically non-existent in modern day society. They have a good track record, so while I can't make anybody get the vaccine, I think it would be in everybody's benefit to do so.
sleepydreepy
legendary egg
I was skimming through some recent posts when I saw this one and just wanted to comment on two things-
first let me start off by saying I also live in Texas and just got vaccinated through HEB and I didn't have to show any form of ID! Here is the link where I signed up- link. Once you sign up they will send you paperwork which will only ask for insurance if you have any. Also in person they did not ask me for my ID and just wanted to see my insurance card. I live in a big city so snagging an appointment online was kind of like trying to buy the celeste plush from the shop here on the forums (lmao), but don't get discouraged and keep refreshing the page until you get one.
next about being allergic to vaccines- when I was in like middle school or entering high school I was required to get vaccinated for Hepatitis B or A (I honestly forget) and it required one shot + one booster shot. I got the first shot and actually did end up having bad side effects (possible allergic reaction). Either way my mom didn't want me getting the second dose and my doctor agreed, so my doctor wrote a note to the state and I got an official document to give the school saying I was excused from getting the vaccine due to medical reasons.
TLDR; there is already a way to be excused from mandatory vaccines if your doctor agrees if it is harmful to your health, and thus I think this can be applied to the COVID vaccine if necessary if it also becomes mandatory.
ali.di.magix
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I won't be eligible until July, or possibly later. I honestly won't be rushing to get it either since it's pretty low risk that I'll encounter the virus. But I will do it to counter the non-believers and anti-vaxxers lol.
Princess Mipha
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My grandpa, age 82 (or 83? D; ) finally got his first injection!
He didn't feel too well after, but now he's doing fine. I just hope he won't have any bad effects..
He didn't feel too well after, but now he's doing fine. I just hope he won't have any bad effects..
