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[Curry]

Hearthstone expansion hype anyone??

I got home from shoots and was reminded of that so I kinda did that instead...

While I don't necessarily buy Heyden's soft claim, apparently in the past a similar situation had happened to Cory so while I'm not letting him off the hook necessarily, I'm okay with a non-Heyden lynch today.

The only problem with a non-Heyden lynch for me is that my day was either shoots or Hearthstone and while I want to give a well thought out opinion about both Tardis and Alexi, 45 minutes probably won't be enough time for me to give an honest judgement of both people based on my own opinions and reads. When compiling my past list originally though, I had Alexi as possible scum based on her and M3ow_'s original debate, and I had Tardis as a townie who said scummy things that got himself in the wrong place. I think Tardis' role claim earlier in the day was completely unnecessary, but Alexi has done a wonderful job defending herself. I don't feel comfortable that those arguments are good enough reads to vote one way or the oter, so as to not ride a band wagon, I'm going to pass vote for the day I think since my strongest case isn't here to defend themselves and I don't think it's fair to lynch him without him being able to defend himself. I can't make a strong enough case against either of the highest votes though to justify voting for either.

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Gonna start a read on Qwerty, hopefully I'll get something in quick.

 

[Ayaya]

Ok but alexi is GOING to flip scum. My reasons may be weak for now but trust me.

I've read back and a bit and before I place my vote, I have to ask, are you REALLY sure about this?

 

[PandaDarling]

why are people not voting !!!! its the whole point of the game and it makes you look really scummy btw, seriously this game is doing my head in. if you don't vote and you don't make reads you are avoiding the game in all aspects and you will probably be my next lynch.

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@Clam like I've said before, its ok dot get it wrong we are all trying to make the best we can, but if you don't participate theres no reason of you to be here and you are making it that much harder for the rest of us to find scum.

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its ok to get it wrong *

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we are all trying to make the best GUESS *

 

[toadsworthy]

ugh seriously guys. I highly doubt Qwerty is scum.....

 

[f11]

I've read back and a bit and before I place my vote, I have to ask, are you REALLY sure about this?

more than 80 percent sure .

 

[toadsworthy]

Dolby whats the current votes?

 

[PandaDarling]

ugh seriously guys. I highly doubt Qwerty is scum.....

@Toad im not asking them to vote for QWERTY i just want them to vote ! anywhere, how are you going to get a read on these players that aren't voting for anyone and aren't making reads ? they are seriously just acting as placeholders, taking up roles and not being active in the game.

 

[Chrystina]

Haha you just ignored what i just called you out on.

Alexi is probably going to flip scum.

All I keep seeing is "probably" and "think" for when you say I'm scum. I'm town and I've been here to help. If you guys want to lynch a townie cause we don't know who scum is why don't we lynch a more inactive one? cause I am here trying and giving reads and being active as I always am.

 

[Curry]

@Clam like I've said before, its ok dot get it wrong we are all trying to make the best we can, but if you don't participate theres no reason of you to be here and you are making it that much harder for the rest of us to find scum.

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its ok to get it wrong *

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we are all trying to make the best GUESS *

I've been doing my best to help and I thought the posts I've made to actually contribute were actually good but I guess not...

People would criticize me for riding a band wagon for weak reasoning, just like they will for not voting. If anything I'd do it against Heyden since they're my most confident read. People say "don't let other people influence your reads" and "don't ride a band wagon to vote" and I'm trying to do exactly that. If I'm not doing what people are telling me is the wrong thing to do, why am I in the wrong for doing it? It might make me look scummy but as a new player hearing people giving all this advice in different directions, that seems like the best idea to me. It's not like the entire day I did nothing and then go "Oh yeah, not voting today," I legitimately tried to help today since I wasn't of much in D1 and now I'm being criticized for not helping again when I thought I was. If I truly am not contributing, I thought my posts were pretty good. Other than not voting, what am I doing wrong so I can do better?

 

[toadsworthy]

@Toad im not asking them to vote for QWERTY i just want them to vote ! anywhere, how are you going to get a read on these players that aren't voting for anyone and aren't making reads ? they are seriously just acting as placeholders, taking up roles and not being active in the game.

I've explained it several times about how Qwerty and Inkling's thing doesn't seem like a bussing opportunity and that I am pretty sure she is town based on how out-of-the-blue Inkling called her out, even reposted it again a few pages back.... people don't believe me on it, its fine

 

[f11]

All I keep seeing is "probably" and "think" for when you say I'm scum. I'm town and I've been here to help. If you guys want to lynch a townie cause we don't know who scum is why don't we lynch a more inactive one? cause I am here trying and giving reads and being active as I always am.

werent you one of the people who criticized Aron for wanting to lynch an inactive?

 

[Kirbystarship]

Lmfao Aron you liked my post but can't be bothered to respond to me

He likes to like random posts I guess.

 

[toadsworthy]

All I keep seeing is "probably" and "think" for when you say I'm scum. I'm town and I've been here to help. If you guys want to lynch a townie cause we don't know who scum is why don't we lynch a more inactive one? cause I am here trying and giving reads and being active as I always am.

since when do you want lynch for inactivity? have you said this before?

 

[PandaDarling]

I've been doing my best to help and I thought the posts I've made to actually contribute were actually good but I guess not...

People would criticize me for riding a band wagon for weak reasoning, just like they will for not voting. If anything I'd do it against Heyden since they're my most confident read. People say "don't let other people influence your reads" and "don't ride a band wagon to vote" and I'm trying to do exactly that. If I'm not doing what people are telling me is the wrong thing to do, why am I in the wrong for doing it? It might make me look scummy but as a new player hearing people giving all this advice in different directions, that seems like the best idea to me. It's not like the entire day I did nothing and then go "Oh yeah, not voting today," I legitimately tried to help today since I wasn't of much in D1 and now I'm being criticized for not helping again when I thought I was. If I truly am not contributing, I thought my posts were pretty good. Other than not voting, what am I doing wrong so I can do better?

@Clam ok well if you feel like thats the best option for you then i think its best you go in the voting thread and put "##VOTE: NO Lynch" cause im not sure if you get mod kill for not putting anything, a more experienced player can explain if they know.

 

[f11]

I've been doing my best to help and I thought the posts I've made to actually contribute were actually good but I guess not...

People would criticize me for riding a band wagon for weak reasoning, just like they will for not voting. If anything I'd do it against Heyden since they're my most confident read. People say "don't let other people influence your reads" and "don't ride a band wagon to vote" and I'm trying to do exactly that. If I'm not doing what people are telling me is the wrong thing to do, why am I in the wrong for doing it? It might make me look scummy but as a new player hearing people giving all this advice in different directions, that seems like the best idea to me. It's not like the entire day I did nothing and then go "Oh yeah, not voting today," I legitimately tried to help today since I wasn't of much in D1 and now I'm being criticized for not helping again when I thought I was. If I truly am not contributing, I thought my posts were pretty good. Other than not voting, what am I doing wrong so I can do better?

follow ur gut vote for who you really think is scum. You might be criticized for joining in a wagon but as long it's what you really think and not just mindlessly following others, it should be okay.

 

[Chrystina]

since when do you want lynch for inactivity? have you said this before?

I already commented on m3ow's case on Qwerty and said I had agreed, of course this was before heyden soft claimed.

 

[Aronthaer]

Alright guys, I went back and read every post from the two confirmed mafs. using this information and the reads from other people, I'm going to try to make some reads. and YES, I know that some of this could be bussing, so it's not in any way definitive.

Suspiciousness of quotes are as follows:

strong town
town lean
neutral/null
scum lean
strong scum
other

okay, this is making me sus of aron. I'm beginning to question his true intentions.

there's definitely something off about aron. i know m3ow and xine are defending him. but maybe he read the last game and saw the doctor was killed d1 and wanted to start a guilt trip? i don't want to lynch him of course but something's not right here.

threw these in as a weak sort of defense for myself. It could very well be bussing, but Inkling did scumread me.

heyden is following his typical meta so is probs town.
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considering the suspicion on Heyden right now, this isn't really helping his case.

i agree with you on sarsa and m3ow. i didn't like m3ow's comment either.

actually im scum reading aron and m3ow.

m3ow and sarsa...

(heyden: Inkling, who do you think Aron is scum with?)

m3ow,

cadb is definitely scum

That is not one, not two, but FOUR quotes from inkling trying to lynch M3ow. Strong town read on her. two quotes on Sarasa's tail, townlean.

cadb is definitely scum

I already see a couple of suspicious people in this game. So I might make a case on them tonight. Would like to point out the lurking Cadbberry and Clams did for like an hour.

that's two claims on Cadberry, slight town read from that.

I'm town reading Cory right now, because in the game's i've been with him, he acts like this as town and is more reserved as scum. He seems to just blurt out whatever comes to mind here.

not enough information to be definite, but I felt I couldn't leave any reads out so here you are. take it as you may.

From what I'm reading, I don't like Inkling's reaction to Xine's case on him. Even though the case was pretty weak, the defensiveness he reacted with isn't very town like. I see the same reaction to this case the same as his reaction to other cases in previous game, so I'm really not sure. I'll look more in depth with it when I get home. But that's my initial reaction

Bussing, or just trying to defend him in an unusual manner? I can't tell.

So in summary, this would be my conclusion:

Heyden
M3ow_
SarasaKat
Caddberry
Cory

 

[Curry]

follow ur gut vote for who you really think is scum. You might be criticized for joining in a wagon but as long it's what you really think and not just mindlessly following others, it should be okay.

Which is exactly how I'd feel for voting Alexi, Tardis or Qwerty.

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@Clam ok well if you feel like thats the best option for you then i think its best you go in the voting thread and put "##VOTE: NO Lynch" cause im not sure if you get mod kill for not putting anything, a more experienced player can explain if they know.

I voted for myself and unvoted if that counts.

 

[tae]

Which is exactly how I'd feel for voting Alexi, Tardis or Qwerty.

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I voted for myself and unvoted if that counts.

if you don't wanna vote for either of those three then don't. there's like 19 ppl left in this game vote for one.

 

[Ayaya]

@Aron I just want you to respond and explain yourself. Since you refuse to do so, repeatedly, I think I know what your role is now.