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<3 thats okay. it seems you aren't the only one sus of me but (hoping I dont die please) my reads will hopefully change that.

I can't wait :D
Unless I'm dead, in which


RIP

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I hope I'm not dead.... because I find out about grad school tomorrow and I'm gonna really need the distraction if I didn't get it
 
I don't get what us both pointing out your quick town read correlates to her thinking your scum. She didn't explicitly say it was because of that so I'm not going to assume it was because of that.

I don't know what you mean by me ignoring it when It's pretty clear you said it

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Honestly, Daniel if you're town i'm dissapointed. Really, I am. She's obviously pointing me out. It doesn't matter if she did explicitly say it was scummy or not, you're trying to say you never saw her call me out when she obviously does in several different posts.
 
also ClamEatsCurry is sus as hell to me right now. I swear he lurks on here every time I show up, but like I never see him post much unless someone is literally calling him out.
I've posted many times when not being called out. I lurk all the time because I don't have anything else to do at nights (my irl time) after I finish homework, but don't post much because I'm not one to talk much in mafia (Cad/Kat can testify from my ToS play).

ClamEatsCurry said:
So this definitely pushes Xine into the town camp I'd say. What my next question then would be would be should we actually consider Cad and M3ow_ now that we know he was actually scum and not the doc?

ClamEatsCurry said:
So going through some of these I noticed I didn't have enough information to make a case for/neutral/against them so I left out anyone I didn't feel like I had enough knowledge of to give an accurate opinion on. As a heads up, I did not do these in order so some of them may be referencing earlier/later members that I did before or after,

Heyden - Really rubs me the wrong with way with his exit, their last few posts before he left were making sure no lynch would never be an option (to be fair it's a bad idea), but he made sure to leave making sure we didn't lynch him when no one was really sus of him or throwing his name out there. His past few posts really throw me on a sus trail. Not to mention for the first part of the game he put himself on invisible so we couldn't see that he was viewing the thread (see http://www.belltreeforums.com/showth...=1#post6434321 ). This post doesn't necessarily say scum, but going invisible is sus to me. Could be town, but I'm very wary of them.

Call Me Daniel - Seems pretty town to me. I don't really have any evidence or thoughts against him, he has the same problem as me where I don't like to just rehash what people have said (according to http://www.belltreeforums.com/showth...t=#post6434753 ).

Alexi - M3ow_ had some really good cases against Alexi and she does seem to be a bit wishy-washy on how she deals with Aron specifically. I hate to just go "yeah they said it best" since I hate rehashing, but since it's one of the most prominent topics atm I may as well, I agree with M3ow_ and Kat's reads on her.

Tardis2016 - He's said some scummy things to me, the main part about him that bugs me is he wrote http://www.belltreeforums.com/showth...t=#post6432955 and then accused inactives of being scum. I think he has scum posts on his hands, but I'm not claiming him to be scum just yet and like Aron may have just gotten himself in a bad spot.

Panda1376 - My opinion generally stays the same as what I said last night.

SarasaKat - Kat's probably the person who will best read me, lol. Anyways, she's been a helpful member to both Aron and been scumhunting pretty actively so I'm inclined to say town.

Crys - Will probably have a valid opinion once their big post comes, figured I'd mention them since their hype.

Toadsworthy - Disappeared for a bit (but he let us know ahead of time), but when he was posting he struck me as a town member.

Ness - For a long time I was on the bandwagon of the whole "Ness disappeared, he's scum," and I still haven't let him off the hook necessarily. However, his newest posts seemed genuine and I'm willing to hear him out when he gives us more to read.

Cadbberry - Knowing Cad for a while, I know she can get emotions tied up in her logic, but I'll be looking at the posts objectively and not as my friend. She got really defensive against Tardis even mentioning mine, Cad and Kevin's names when we weren't under much pressure so that rubs me the wrong way.

M3ow_ - I think they are town, they had some great points against Alexi so I'm inclined to trust them. Looking back, all of their posts have been very rational and with valid reasoning to help town so I'm inclined to go with a town read on them.

Kevinnn - Not many posts so it's hard to say, but like me for a while he was like "hey I'm catching up" as his posts, and like Cad, the moment our names were mentioned he got really defensive. I'm on board with Kat that I wanna hear more from him because he seems off to me.

Cory - I stick to what I said in my past post, I don't know Cory all that well and definitely don't know his meta so I don't know if he acts like this when he's town or not, but I think he came out swinging way too fast to be scum D1.

Aronthaer - There are so many red flags here, so many. I agree with the people who say he's town and just did a really bad **** up when he cracked under pressure, so while he's said some very scummy things and I've questioned him for some things he's said, I don't think he's too scummy yet. My opinion may change as the game goes on, but I'm on a town read for him right now.

So halfway through this I found out about the search feature and I'd been doing this the long way the first half...****. Anyway, there's my thoughts of people I have an opinion on right now.

ClamEatsCurry said:
So we have 6 living roles and only 2 dead? I'm thinking about people who would be relevant in a mafia game and if there were enough relevant people in this election to fill what would be 23 alive roles. So I can see dead presidents being relevant, but Reagan seems unlikely for a doctor since I would think of like an Abraham Lincoln as a president who "healed" the country (freeing slaves, ending the Civil War, etc.). Not saying Aron is necessarily lying, but the president for the role seems off to me when he did things like escalate The Cold War..

ClamEatsCurry said:
I return from a long day of school, shoots and dinner! Reading through the thread, basically any information I could offer as far as reads go would just be regurgitated information but I guess I'll post my thoughts that I've had since my last post.

I feel like Panda is probably town. Her post where she explained her thoughts on several people was really insightful and I think the rest of the thread so I think she's trying to be a helpful town member.

I feel like Cory is a really aggressive town but I've never seen any past games from him so I don't know his meta or if he's acted like this as town in the past, but generally I don't think as a member of the mafia he'd be this aggressive D1.

After reading through the thread again, Aron seems to be a bit of a clumsy town member but if he claims Doc and really is, that's bad news for us.

I generally don't post a lot in games where I don't feel like what I have to say is providing any additional info, this going for other games and not just mafia, and this entire post to me just seems like rehashing stuff that has already been said by other people. I want to make reads and provide helpful info but with only information from a troll, a Doc claim and a lot of "we need more people to post to get reads" I really don't know what to contribute that hasn't already been said.

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As far as scum goes, again I agree with the Ness claim for just disappearing out of nowhere, but again, information that I'm just rehashing.

All of these are posts made without anyone saying anything about me, there were others but were of little substance and din't have much meaning.
 
@Sarasakat i can't figure you out this game, you aren't playing your town meta completely but i don't know if you are scum/third party or if your just doing things differently.
Long story short, my circumstances this game are very different than any one I've ever been in. That'a probably accounting for my change in playstyle haha

I think the chances of Aron living are high, actually. Sounds like a lot would want to frame him D2 if he's still alive.
 
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Honestly, Daniel if you're town i'm dissapointed. Really, I am. She's obviously pointing me out. It doesn't matter if she did explicitly say it was scummy or not, you're trying to say you never saw her call me out when she obviously does in several different posts.

Pointing out someone for a weird thing doesn't mean you think their scum. I didn't think you were scum when you quickly town read someone, I said it was bad logic not scummy. She called you out, it she didn't say that was scummy because it honestly wasn't it was just weird.

Nessy developing some tunnel syndrome i see </3
 
I've posted many times when not being called out. I lurk all the time because I don't have anything else to do at nights (my irl time) after I finish homework, but don't post much because I'm not one to talk much in mafia (Cad/Kat can testify from my ToS play).









All of these are posts made without anyone saying anything about me, there were others but were of little substance and din't have much meaning.

yeah most of my suspicion of you is just your timing, and that I see you all the time, and that Inkling could've called out multiple people for inactivity, but didn't choose you. That could just be a coincidence though.... but don't be upset if later you see I have you on my sus list
 
Long story short, my circumstances this game are very different than any one I've ever been in. That'a probably accounting for my change in playstyle haha

I think the chances of Aron living are high, actually. Sounds like a lot would want to frame him D2 if he's still alive.

your circumstances sound like you might be third party in this game then.
also, your faith in aron freaks me out a bit, especially because you stood up for him so much day 1. if he survives the night it'll be obvious his doctor role was probably a huge lie.
 
Ness do you really think Crys posts are actually normal and I have no reason for my suspicions. Seems like you're trying pretty hard to say that
 
Ness do you really think Crys posts are actually normal and I have no reason for my suspicions. Seems like you're trying pretty hard to say that

out of the limited games i've played, crys always seems to be teetering on a wild card player.
 
Ness do you really think Crys posts are actually normal and I have no reason for my suspicions. Seems like you're trying pretty hard to say that

Yeah, i'm 80% you're scum. In the span of the previous hour, I never said sht about saying her posts are normal or being scummy.
 
your circumstances sound like you might be third party in this game then.
also, your faith in aron freaks me out a bit, especially because you stood up for him so much day 1. if he survives the night it'll be obvious his doctor role was probably a huge lie.

you would still want to lynch him then? idk, I totally agreed with Sarasa's reasonings on not lynching Aron. He is a freaking doctor, we can't knowingly do that and its a good thing we didn't since we struck scum. And while yes there is a high probability he is gonna eat dirt, but there are way more scenarios that can happen tonight that involve him not dying. The Mafia may not even wanna go near him, since he was all over the place or have any case to think he is like a third party or something. Not to mention it would've been hard to fake all the stuff he posted when he role claimed. I honestly think he is just nervous/ thought he knew what he was doing/ had a come to jesus moment when all that stuff went down.
 
Hopefully I'll get more information from the end of night 1 and will be able to post and help more day 2 if I'm alive.
 
your circumstances sound like you might be third party in this game then.
also, your faith in aron freaks me out a bit, especially because you stood up for him so much day 1. if he survives the night it'll be obvious his doctor role was probably a huge lie.
Nah, I'm town. Just **** is insane for me.

Wouldn't mafia want you to believe that, though? I think mafia would opt to use WIFOM and keep him alive so he becomes the D2 lynch.
 
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