Mafia Miraculous Ladybug Cultists [Congrats Cult!]

[mogyay]

guys I am 1 million % town...... Idk wtf if going on. But if Tae is lying about this, thats a good play. Tae for your own sake after I flip town, you need to talk this out with me. Because everyone is gonna be pissed if I get lynched

for tae to be lying then he, tom and athena would all have to be cult though????? unless i'm missing something : (

 

[tae]

i can only view one at a time. I got a not sus reading my first night from a different player.

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I'm not lying holy **** lol. mog no.

 

[mogyay]

i know that's what i'm saaaaaying like it's too far fetched for u to be lying omg i feel like i don't get it at all i'm rly sorry guys i'm dumb

 

[toadsworthy]

i can only view one at a time. I got a not sus reading my first night from a different player.

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I'm not lying holy **** lol. mog no.

Tae who was it? because if you are insane... it tells you the opposite of what the actual read is

 

[tae]

if that's the case then Athena is cult(if you think my sanity is compromised) because I inspected tom the first night. came back not sus. but that being said- he claimed to be bussed with Athena, so that's why I wanted you to back the **** off tom so I could figure it out but he claimed to be bussed AGAIN so I'm glad I didn't inspect him last night.

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bottom line is, you came back sus. I don't trust how you've played in this game. and I'm willing to take that risk. sorry I'm driving now I don't wanna die I'll be back in like 30

 

[mogyay]

um ok i know what's going on now then i am sorry i totally misunderstood what was happening, i'm so sorry : '(

 

[toadsworthy]

if that's the case then Athena is cult(if you think my sanity is compromised) because I inspected tom the first night. came back not sus. but that being said- he claimed to be bussed with Athena, so that's why I wanted you to back the **** off tom so I could figure it out but he claimed to be bussed AGAIN so I'm glad I didn't inspect him last night.

so lemme rationalize it this way.
I have been following my emotional Town Meta and being loud despite coming off being mafia, being loud and sucking in micro. If I was anything cult related I would've not been this loud and everyone is freaking knowing it.
Instead you are just now going to take a completely new and one of the quietest people in this game? especially now when I am telling you something is fishy and this inspection is not right....

GUYS I AM YOUR ROLEBLOCKER! DO NOT VOTE ME!!!!

Vote for Athena and if it comes out wrong, then we know we have a framer on our hands... but my suspicion is Tae is an insane cop. because

I HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD I WAS BUSSED
I HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD I WAS PULLED TO THE CULT SIDE

 

[mogyay]

so how does someone become insane? i tried googling it but idk, like are they insane to start with?

 

[toadsworthy]

so how does someone become insane? i tried googling it but idk, like are they insane to start with?

its picked by the host... its a type of role, insane (or naive, or some other term) cop inspects people but it gives them the opposite result of what it actually is. I swear to god guys.... vote Athena, if something happens you can crush me next time and I promise I will shape up!

JUST PLEASE GIVE ME THIS ONE THING

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EBWOP: promise I will shape up and not be a sourpuss, little beeyatch, aggressive at random people...

omg, guys please vote Athena
I swear!!!

 

[mogyay]

OK I'M SORRY I KNOW i seem flaky as hell but i didn't think there was an explanation and now i see one so i'm gonna go with my gut, i think toads is town and i'm voting athena

 

[toadsworthy]

Insane or naive cop (whatever one gives the opposite result) is also not told that they are insane or naive, they just get the opposite result. Like unaware millers, they show scum when inspected, but they aren't told directly that they actually do it.

 

[mogyay]

Insane or naive cop (whatever one gives the opposite result) is also not told that they are insane or naive, they just get the opposite result. Like unaware millers, they show scum when inspected, but they aren't told directly that they actually do it.

it's just the all the circumstances leading up to this are so unlucky sigh

 

[toadsworthy]

it's just the all the circumstances leading up to this are so unlucky sigh

GOD I HOPE ENOUGH PEOPLE COME AROUND TO STOP THIS....

EVERYONE VOTE ATHENAAAAA! do it before I get lynched....
and I wil live you all the explanation you need

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it's just the all the circumstances leading up to this are so unlucky sigh

the one lucky thing we got is that Athena admitted to being bussed

 

[PandaDarling]

I'm posting a case on Panda first because my reads is still 50% incomplete.

PandaDarling - scum lean
D1
There was something a bit off about Panda that I can?t quite place tbh. Reading through the thread the first time through, I got the feeling that Panda was holding back a bit, and a bit detached which was slightly different than her usual playstyle. But then again, I too was not playing as my usual town self this game and she?d also explained that she was trying to be more logical and less emotional in this game. It?s just something to note, I guess.

Content-wise
She asked a lot of questions/clarifications from other players which is a pretty town thing to do, yes? But looking closer, she picked easy/obvious questions to ask (nothing thought provoking). Did she participate in any of the discussions about other players happening at the time? No. She came in, asked a question or two at Wise and Duck (within intervals) and then disappeared. As I?d written in my first read on her- a bit filler-ish. The discussion that she did participate in was about game mechanics & NL. Yes this saved us the trouble from having to ask the same questions but was it a town tell? No. tl;dr- she didn't really give any input about other players but asked enough questions to appear pro-town.


Her initial reads (I have no right to comment on this considering my list was **** but)

I noticed that her reads were pretty safe, nothing new. But the one thing that really jumped at me was her reads on me. Why would she town read me unless she knows that I?m not cult? It?s like she saw me posting helpful posts, posted a read (no matter how ****ty), and she was like yeah too much work to make her seem scummy so- townlean. I mean if she's town, thank you for town leaning me because everybody else was so sure I?m scum based on my inactivity alone smh. But, we played together in MMM where I was scum and I clearly coasted that game much like what I?d done earlier this game. Wouldn?t that have made her more careful with me? I remember as scum, I mostly only skimmed people?s posts. And in doing so, made me miss a lot of crucial details. Could this be why she thought I was ?scum-hunting?? (my list was so weak that the best anyone could do was to put me on null)

Her vote
She voted Wise out of all people, when Daniel was so close to getting lynched? I think Curry asked her why she voted for Wise which she explained. But come on, a very important role was about to get lynched? What would you do as town? Vote for a random absent player instead of other scummier players who had more votes and could potentially save Dan? Hmm.

Spoiler

pretty weak explanation for voting Wise tbh. I mean, Wise literally only posted twice? Is he worth sacrificing Daniel over? I think not. And while she did misunderstood Fleshy, the fact still remains that she frowned upon the idea of going after inactives. No matter what reason she had for voting Wise, he is still an inactive!

D2
Day 2 Panda is a bit confusing to read. However, for some reason I'm still reading her posts as emotionally detached.



Pretty insightful tbh but were you lowkey trying to dissuade us from believing people who's set to lynch (should they roleclaim) to reduce our numbers? Also good job establishing how confused you are with the setup and let us know that your focus is disrupted because of it.

To be honest, all this talk about bussing and Endless' theories is pretty damn annoying. Panda was so obsessed with the buss since day 1 and now she's worrying about Endless' theories (which r so wild, what are the odds really?) I mean Panda really haven't discussed anyone's behaviour in this game at all (which is unlike her usual town self) aside from Tom (obvious choice) and Wise (really?). The only other two who she had remotely accused of as either cult or SK was entropy and Chrys because they attacked her first.



I believe that she didn't kill entropy, but that doesn't mean she's not cult. Her reply to Chrys' accusation sounded too calculative imo. I don't know why but I got a very different vibe from that post than Chrys did. I feel like it's emotionally detached (unlike her tone in MMM). Can I get other opinions on this? Especially by those who played Murder Mystery Mafia because she used this same reasons a lot to read Chrys in that game.

Also on N1- she asked entropy if she was SK. Really why did she suspect entropy as SK instead of cult when, at that point of time, nobody had talked about the possibility of SK yet.



This is mere speculation on my part but could it be that Panda asked that because she was cult and was trying to look for SK? Anyway real question- is scumhunting something that an SK would normally do? I mean Panda thought entropy was genuinely scumhunting but suspected her of being SK nonetheless.

Anyway, this is the part where I express my disappointment at Toads for interrupting entropy's and Panda's exchange. I could have had way more to work with otherwise ://

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Now before anyone comes in and tells me how 'awful' or 'wrong' my reads are, I'm gonna politely ask you to refrain from doing so. Yes, you can refute my reads but please respect the time and effort I've put into constructing this case. English is so rich; there are plenty of ways to criticise people without hurting them. Thank you.

If Panda can please step up and defend herself I'd be grateful.

ok back to writing the rest of my reads *sweats*

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EBWOP: Could this be why she thought I was ?scum-hunting?? Because she skimmed my reads (my list was so weak that the best anyone could do was to put me on null)

*thought to add that in case anyone finds it confusing.

i think you're case is well structured Seroja, no reason why anyone should insult it. so i can understand why you would think my activity was a little strange the first day or two, i was just getting home from a camping trip and it was my husbands birthday i was extremely busy trying to make his b day special, so this game didnt have my undivided attention as it usually does, but i was reading the thread and i was trying to help where i could by asking Wise and Duck those small questions, about the things that stuck out to me at the time.

now for my reads, ya they weren't the greatest but lets be honest how can anyone have amazing reads at that time ? we had so little info and i think like 1/3 the players weren't even here to get a read on. maybe i should have put them as null, but to be honest i personally hate when players compile a reads list and just null over half the playlist, to me it seems they are being hesitate and trying not to ruffle any feathers, there for when i do mine i like to sway myself to pick either one way or they other, and post the people that are null end up going on the town side (at least for the time being) until i get something that seems off from them, then i can reevaluate my read on them. and im kinda offended that you say i didnt wanna try in my reads cause it was "too much work" i literally put hours into, going back and ISO people reads to really get a genuine feel for each players, and you are sus of me for town reading you when you say that you were so inactive but seriously half the players were inactive (even more so than you) so why wouldnt i see your effort as a town tell compared to the rest of them ? i mean you post a reads list didnt you? that was a lot more than the others did soo... ?

now for the voting you a saying you rather me had sheeped another player i wasn't so confident in ? i hardly think, I alone can be blamed for what happened Eod D1, we diffidently didnt have our s*** together and we lots a strong role for it, but i can't be blamed for the lack of organization and or time for effort from everyone, i voted my greatest suspicion and honestly when everyones jumping around (voting/unvoting) the last 5-7 mins of day its hard to see where you would best be helpful, i mean look Fleshy and i think someone else didnt vote within deadline.

in MMM yes i was more emotional detached as i am in this game, like I've stated before im thing to use my brain over my heart more often and yes i did use that method of gameplay to read Chrystina ( who was scum) again i don't know why you are scum reading me for things I've done as town that have worked to caught scum (i was the only person that game to catch on about Cpu not being confirmed town that game and for being a NON-town alignment)

and as for the SK thing toward Entropy, i was half serious, first because of the way you blatantly called me a very SPECIFIC role, and secondly the way she was just s*** posting the first half of her time here.

and yes i truly believe SK would scum hun, why wouldn't they ? they still need to blend into the crowd and they don't have any idea of the scum team.

 

[tae]

if she flips town toad. I swear to god I'm coming for your ass if I'm not culted.

 

[Chrystina]

jfc this is such a mess. the soft claim reealllly didn't need to come out (not blaming you at all tae, it was the only way for people to l2 read & understand)
if there is a role, such as doctor (who im assuming can protect someone from being culted) i suggest tae. we still don't know if he's insane or not, and if he isn't then we can't afford to lose this role. however, i emphasize "suggest" because I've never been one, and wont start being one, to tell pr's what to do. whoever it is ultimately decides to themselves.

moving on..

toads why are you jumping to the conclusion tae is listed as insane. what if we have a framer? why are we lynching athena based on the small probability of an insane cop.. i think panda knows this theme very well?
@panda - is there any character in this show that could play a role as an insane cop? or is a framer more likely?

 

[toadsworthy]

if she flips town toad. I swear to god I'm coming for your ass if I'm not culted.

i mean I can't guarantee there isn't a framer... or something else happening that we can't comprehend... but I swear I'm town! I admitted to what I am earlier, if she comes back town Idk what to think.

But which seems more likely, insane cop and I am town
Or a cult-based framer picking Athena
Or Tom could've lied about something, but idk about that...

 

[PandaDarling]

omg just caught up on the thread.... i have to think....

so Tae inspects Tom (Tom and Athena bussed "driven") inspection comes back Not Sus.
then Tae inspects Toad (who claims not bussed) inspection comes back Sus.

so theres two things that could be happening here if im correct.

Tae if you are sane. then then Athena is Town (cause you got results off Athena NOT Tom) first inspection.
and if your INSANE then Athena is Scum and Toad is Town.

right ?

 

[toadsworthy]

jfc this is such a mess. the soft claim reealllly didn't need to come out (not blaming you at all tae, it was the only way for people to l2 read & understand)
if there is a role, such as doctor (who im assuming can protect someone from being culted) i suggest tae. we still don't know if he's insane or not, and if he isn't then we can't afford to lose this role. however, i emphasize "suggest" because I've never been one, and wont start being one, to tell pr's what to do. whoever it is ultimately decides to themselves.

moving on..

toads why are you jumping to the conclusion tae is listed as insane. what if we have a framer? why are we lynching athena based on the small probability of an insane cop.. i think panda knows this theme very well?
@panda - is there any character in this show that could play a role as an insane cop? or is a framer more likely?

why did I jump to that conclusion? because I know I'm town and it explains these weird results. I guarantee I'm freaking town (in this moment) I was never told I was culted if it happens like secretly or something. So this game started with a cult leader and a framer? that seems crazy!

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omg just caught up on the thread.... i have to think....

so Tae inspects Tom (Tom and Athena bussed "driven") inspection comes back Not Sus.
then Tae inspects Toad (who claims not bussed) inspection comes back Sus.

so theres two things that could be happening here if im correct.

Tae if you are sane. then then Athena is Town (cause you got results off Athena NOT Tom) first inspection.
and if your INSANE then Athena is Scum and Toad is Town.

right ?

picture perfect!

 

[tae]

yup. I hate this game.