My 5 main suspects
A paper written by Ness Nessy Nester
So lets take a headcount on the 5 people who kept their vote on improper.
Tom, Toadsworthy, Chrystina, Karla, and Kirbystarship
I'll be making a case on each of them in 3 catagories:
Motives for voting improper, General thoughts/suspicions, and final judgement.
Lets start with Tom.
Tom
Tom to me seems to be the least suspicious out of the bunch. While I don't agree with the thing he said, his reasoning for voting for improper is summed up in this post:
As I've said before I'm not apologizing for lynching Improper. This is how I viewed the whole situation:
- Once Improper stopped joking around and started suggesting a policy lynch on Liam (despite obviously better lynches), red flags were set off in my mind. I swap my vote from Ness to Improper to apply more pressure and see where it leads.
- Improper messages me over Discord asking if I'm really third party, I reply yes. About an hour later I ask if they're a PR, I get an eggplant emoji as a response. Ask for clarification if they mean doc, they say big D. I disregard the claim then because to me it just means they're not playing semi-seriously enough.
- Improper kind of hints in the thread about some sort of investigative role, Panda messages me asking if I believe Improper's claim (the DM claim). Thinkin she meant the post in the thread, I say "what her softin cop?" "No the other claim" I am naturally confused, only to eventually remember oh yeah eggplant. I ask what she claimed to Panda and Panda is like yo wtf hold on a min. Go back, as Crys. Crys is like yeah I'm doc. Then they out.
So I ask you what good is an outed doc? In the Discord the response I get (post death mind you) is a Doc and a number. That's well and good I suppose, but I'm talkin like unknowns here. I ain't for sure Crys is the doc and given their highly chaotic playstyles, I'm not inclined to trust them. So I calculate the risk in my head.
Outed doc isn't good for two reasons:
1. They're gonna die N1, probably blocked if there's a roleblocker on maf
2. If they don't die N1, they'll probably be blocked enough times to cast doubt. So we circle back to D1 all over again, is Crys doc or not.
Secondly Crys outed what three hours before day end? Let's assume Crys was mafia and not the real doc. Real doc is in a dilemma, it's D1 and someone's claimed a role that's pretty much impossible given our setup. Do they out? Do they get someone to CC Crys for them? Is it enough to sway people?
Day 1 was nothing but a game of risk assessment for me. Yeah I'm third party and yeah, I win either way, but despite lynching the doc I am actively working in the best interests of town. I determined the risk of leaving Crys alive was a bigger threat to town than them being a bigger asset to it.
Tom has the best reasoning/explaination for why he had voted improper. Plus with the fact that he claimed survivor i'm inclined to believe he just didn't give a damn when voting improper. But the survivor claim is kind of why i'm not suspicious of him at the same time. Its as if he's accepted the fact that he voted Improper to the noose just because she claimed doctor.
So as for my judgement right now, I believe him and his claim but he shouldn't be excused entirely.
Toadsworthy
Out of everyone in the bunch, toadsworthy felt more quickly paced when voting. If he was scum, he voted near the last second to make sure the doctor got polished off. He then makes a post talking about how he voted for Crys because he "believed her story the least".
I mean with improper you can get damn near anything... And with everything going on, I believed her story the least. It wasn't the best move but I made due with what I had.
He talked about how the person he was "most hesitant" about was chrystina when an hour before the lynch he went ahead and said that "it was how she played as town" and went ahead and voted for a claimed Doctor.
The person I am most hesitant about is chyrstina. She came in hard, made big broad assumptions that swayed pretty quickly then just fell off once everyone was all over Liam and improper.
He also mentions that people will probably think that he's "flip flopping" which is a big invitation to the WIFOM train. He never mentioned his reasoning behind voting her, he just said that "out of the 3, he was just picked one". Plus, take a look at this:
However with improper and panda given my experience with them they wouldn't be acting like that as mafia because they know better than to bring that attention on to themselves
His wishwash is out of the ordinary when he was supposedly not suspicious of improper or panda, yet he claims he just "picked one". Out of the 5, Toadsworthy stands out to me a bit.
Chrystina
Now we have whom was most suspicious of improper/who I wanted dead in the lynch. I don't think I ever explained why I voted for Chrystina. Its because of her mental gymnasics against improper that pushed me to voting her.
I trusted Chrystina for majority of the first half of day 1 until improper claimed which made me look back at her posts and realize that improper was right about how she was incredibly confident about finding panda and improper scum. I can kinda see her reasoning behind most of her suspicions but it was this post in particular that made me vote her:
LOL
"I'm a cop, you idiot" flashbacks, anyone? Especially for Dolby?
Crys claimed cop when she wasn't and got Dolby lynched, when he was actually a townie.
Just thought I'd put that out there, for anyone who didn't read that game - I don't trust her.
To which I reply with this, that she never replied back to.
Thats invalid. That whole mess of a game was my fault because I didn't read into my role enough. Plus, that game and this is 2 comepletely different things. She claimed right off the bat in IaCyi as cop, she's actually claiming that she is a PR from being voted to do it right now.
Plus i'm not seeing a counterclaim, so i'm pretty sure its good.
Oh and before you question it, she said she claimed Cop to try and throw off the mafia. I have proof too:
Crys - Today at 5:54 PM
yea I'm doctor
Ness - Today at 5:54 PM
Ok
Crys - Today at 5:54 PM
im trying to confuse Mafia a bit with my cop claim
With chrystina being so "confident" when improper gets lynched, I could sorta imagine this scenario: "aw man, I might as well be apathetic about the whole thing!"
daniel you suck for that suspense
**** im sorry guys. and sorry crys for not believing your claim. i suck
So yeah. I'd say i'm fairly suspicious of Chrystina still. Oh yeah, and as a little side bonus she said this in discord:
Chrystina - Today at 5:41 PM
she claimed mafia doctor
when improper actually said "i'm the mf doctor" which stands for "mother fo doctor". So yeah, it feels like she twisted it a bit. Or it could just be a dumb misconception idk.
KarlaKGB
To me Karla seems to feel more of a slight scumlean, but for different reasons. The only motive he had for voting improper were these posts:
i wanna know what "policy" this actually is? u look like a typical scummer who wants to dump on the worst player
im also happy to lynch byngo since i doubt they have any intention of playing the game. altho maybe the hosts will smite them to save us the lynch.
reads to me like she wants to justify a mislynch
He also says that he wasn't around to see impropers role claim and proceeds to agree with Tom that improper was doomed anyway. So I don't know if I have a legit read on Karla. Although there is one thing that stood out to me.
i wanna know what "policy" this actually is? u look like a typical scummer who wants to dump on the worst player
im also happy to lynch byngo since i doubt they have any intention of playing the game. altho maybe the hosts will smite them to save us the lynch.
He said that he was ok with lynching byngo when Liam hadn't really done anything up to that point either. So yeah. Nullish scumlean towards Karla.
Kirbystarship
And now we have the voter who had the absolute weakest explaination for why he kept his vote on improper.
My thoughts so far.
I feel like Crys is trying to push easy lynches like this post.
Feels scummy. Kinda reminds me of Mog doing almost the same thing the last game she was scum.
I think we should believe Liam for right now and focus on someone else.
Cory seems to be acting like his passed games.
Not sure about everyone else.
His reasoning for voting improper makes sense. He also talks about how he doesn't like it when people say "you'll regret lynching me" but its his explanation as to why he stayed on is what miffes me:
I didn't coast through the lynch. I shared my thoughts and didn't see Crys soft claim.
He says he "didn't see Crys soft claim" yet only 2 hours before the lynch he posted this:
Because she claimed?
I still have a hard time believing her.
And tried to cover it up by saying that he forgot she claimed. As panda would say, how convenient. Kirby could have slipped there, because it sends off signals that he didn't actually care about it all but rather just wanted ride off the coattails.
Out of the 4 people i'm mainly suspicious of it would be Toadsworthy that trumps Chrystina/Kirby/Karla. To answer Tom, if I were to inspect 1 person i'd inspect Karla or Chrystina. If I were to shoot one person, it would probably be between Toad or Kirby.
