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Yeah Panda was acting a little mad about being seen as suspicious too (on Discord more than here). I don't know though, it seems scummy, but most people would probably be at least a little mad if they were being so heavily suspected (not defending them or anything, I mean, those two along with Karla are the highest on my sus list) but I don't think anger or whatever over accusations necessarily means that much.

We only have 7 and a half hours or so to vote, I'm waiting but I'm flicking between the three mentioned before

Not necessarily, people tell me that my tone behind my posts are an indicator of me being scum or townish but w/e
 
^interesting, thanks for posting the conversation.

Just posting this again (since it's getting closer to voting time and I'm not sure if you seen it panda) as I'm wondering about it, what does this quote mean? Did Mog tell you her final wish was to get Karla lynched...?



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because you said that earlier, yet in the conversation you just posted, I don't see Mog saying that at all. Unless I'm reading the bolded part wrong or missing something.

@Fleshy, she said that if she dies its because of Karla.... so take that as you will.... also did you post your conversation with Mog and i missed it or are w still waiting for that ?
 
@sejora, because I think panda is more scummy.
Also as a not I will not be here at end of day.

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*note
 
So from the conversation I obtained from Fleshy it seems that that Fleshy may have been the first to learn about Mog's true role, since they got DM'd by her at about 5:51 PM EDT. Karla after, then Panda at 6:04 PM EDT. What's interesting is this contradiction though:

mogyay - Last Monday at 4:20 PM
look i mean if im blocked or killed
karla is mafia
basically

Panda - Last Monday at 4:20 PM
cause you didn't tell anyone else right ?

mogyay - Last Monday at 4:21 PM
no just u and karla

Why claim to Fleshy but then withhold that from Panda if she was trusting her? But like the weirdest thing here is that Chrystina was Panda's biggest D1 suspicion yet she never once pushed for her? I mean if I had the vig on speed dial wouldn't you try and push them to your biggest sus? Instead there's a lack of Chrys and this gentle nudging to Kirby. With less than two hours to go, that's still enough time for mafia to send in their actions if they've been patient puppies. Add on the fact that Panda has been antagonistic and generally playing weirdly in my mind, I do think Panda should be our lynch today.

Honestly the whole Karla push felt like a stretch, even if he's been quiet. Mog may have been afraid of Karla, but I think she got it wrong there. The devil is the one who's there for ya.
 
So from the conversation I obtained from Fleshy it seems that that Fleshy may have been the first to learn about Mog's true role, since they got DM'd by her at about 5:51 PM EDT. Karla after, then Panda at 6:04 PM EDT. What's interesting is this contradiction though:



Why claim to Fleshy but then withhold that from Panda if she was trusting her? But like the weirdest thing here is that Chrystina was Panda's biggest D1 suspicion yet she never once pushed for her? I mean if I had the vig on speed dial wouldn't you try and push them to your biggest sus? Instead there's a lack of Chrys and this gentle nudging to Kirby. With less than two hours to go, that's still enough time for mafia to send in their actions if they've been patient puppies. Add on the fact that Panda has been antagonistic and generally playing weirdly in my mind, I do think Panda should be our lynch today.

Honestly the whole Karla push felt like a stretch, even if he's been quiet. Mog may have been afraid of Karla, but I think she got it wrong there. The devil is the one who's there for ya.

haha this is a joke right ? Tom you are so scummy. so let me get this right you are calling me scum and voting for me because i DIDNT TELL VIG WHAT TO DO.... how about we talk about how you threaten me and then wanted to make a alignment with me ? you are so untrustworthy you said you would vote with me D2 and as soon as I don't want to vote Chrystina anymore and vote Karla you turn on me ? so A. that clears Chrystina and B. makes Karla your scum buddy.

@Fleshy where is your conversation with Mog im not taking Tom's word for it.
 
@Fleshy where is your conversation with Mog im not taking Tom's word for it.

Not taking his word for what? But yeah I'll just post in now, just saying there's loads, honestly lots, should I just post it all? I mean you didn't post your full conversation with her so..?

But yeah, Mog told me before she told you two, and she told me when she'd told you two, so she was clearly wasn't fully trusting of you, honestly I don't even know why she roleclaimed to you two since it got her killed
 
Not taking his word for what? But yeah I'll just post in now, just saying there's loads, honestly lots, should I just post it all? I mean you didn't post your full conversation with her so..?

But yeah, Mog told me before she told you two, and she told me when she'd told you two, so she was clearly wasn't fully trusting of you, honestly I don't even know why she roleclaimed to you two since it got her killed

@Fleshy, im not taking Toms word for what he says is true about your conversation with Mog.... what are you trying to get at ? i didnt post my whole conversation ? i post our whole conversation about what we are talking about so.... ? ? ? just post the conversation and let us be the judge of it.
 
@Fleshy, im not taking Toms word for what he says is true about your conversation with Mog.... what are you trying to get at ? i didnt post my whole conversation ? i post our whole conversation about what we are talking about so.... ? ? ? just post the conversation and let us be the judge of it.

Okay sure. So you just posted the conversation from after she claimed vig to you and when she sent in her vote? I'll do the same then,
 
Okay sure. So you just posted the conversation from after she claimed vig to you and when she sent in her vote? I'll do the same then,

@Fleshy thats fine, what else do you want to see? thats what we are talking about right ? her claiming and how we (Karla, you, myself) handled the conversation after that right ? i don't know why you are disappointed with that... if there is anymore information that you are seeking that you don't feel was provided then just ask and i will try to clarify and provide information if i can.

Fleshy you don't find it weird that Tom is working behind the scenes ?
 
Regarding the whole karla thing, and my suspicions with panda, I'm leaning more towards Karla now. I'm putting this conversation between Panda and I for everyone to see and explain my thought process as of right now.

[9:16 PM] Panda: look if you really aren't mafia then i strongly think we should work together
[9:43 PM] Chrystina: how so.
[9:56 PM] Chrystina: how sure are you that mogs ONLY told karla? she didnt tell anyone else?
[9:58 PM] Panda: Well **** I was cause that's what she told Karla but now I think she might have told a couple others 😩
[9:58 PM] Panda: This game is ****ed
[10:00 PM] Chrystina: i mean karla has been lurking in the shadows, and mafia usually does this day 1 so really, if we both let go of our tunnel vision on each other then just maybe we can win, but thats assuming your town. i wont vote you today, but if karla flips green, you definitely have my vote day 3 (assuming ill still be alive)
[10:02 PM] Panda: 🤔 but what if your Mafia and you are saying this so we don't lynch you and you know Karla will flip green and then you are killing two birds with one motha ****in stone 😫
[10:06 PM] Chrystina: lmao dudeee i am telling you, im not mafia. look at my mafia play. dont you think I wouldve gone invisible on the forums? so I could hide and pretend to be "afk", when really I just wouldnt wana defend myself? but im here and showing everyone when I am here, because anything sus of me I can easily explain. you knew how much of a wreck I was as mafia, pretending to be afk and such? and i definitely wouldnt have gone as hard on crys if I wasnt town. idk how else to convince you but theres that. the only way to actually prove to you is if I do get lynched and flip green, but with 4 town down, thats way too risky
[10:15 PM] Panda: Ok but I am town too I don't know how you can't see it in doing my usual dumb emotional tunneling and I'm lost af
[11:31 PM] Panda: Right ?
August 16, 2016
[1:09 AM] Panda: Hello ?
[1:09 AM] Chrystina: whats up
[1:10 AM] Chrystina: sorry, working on tier list so
[1:22 AM] Panda: 😩😩😩 haha
[1:22 AM] Panda: So what's going on... Can we get along and work together on this ?
[1:22 AM] Panda: I don't wanna lose

the bold is what makes me so hesitant, because she was the first to bring up that we both stop tunneling each other and look at the bigger picture, but seemed to backtrack right after.
What she says about doubting my actions, and that I could be trying to kill two birds with one stone, she could be doing the exact same thing to me right now.

Honestly I was more sold on voting Karla last night, but now that the votes has been swaying towards Panda and off of me, she seems to be getting overly defensive, just like the last minute votes on her on day 1. The only game I've played with Panda and I've seen her reaction towards getting voted for, she was mafia, and she did get overly defensive. but I've also never seen her react to getting voted while she was town, so I can't compare the two.

tbh I don't know what to make of it, but there's my thought process. if I do end up voting Karla I figured I might as well put it all out there before anyone tries saying I'm flip flopping or whatever.

However before I do decide & vote, just a few things that stuck out to me.


this whole mogyay and karla claiming thing...

=====mog pastes the stuff from discord that incriminates chrys here=====
what
why would anyone think that, this is ********
wait a minute
mafia has safe claims?
how does she know that
she ****ed up
thats a slip
u need to post that log
right now
I really don't see how that's a slip, which I've explained why earlier, and I find it very odd why Karla even thinks this is a slip, seeing as how he should know most of the time mafia has safe claims. but what I really don't like from this conversation is Karla demanding mogs what to do to get town to turn against me. It's just the wording doesn't sit right with me.
look, are u gonna post?
cuz i will
===Here Mog claims that she copy and pasted it "wrong"===
how can u
copy it wrong
lol ur full of ****
ye i did
i dont trust u at all
===Here she says she was jokign about the copying and pasting wrong===
lol bs
u showed me that without realising the implications for chrys
u should have been excited to see that slip
exactly
exactly
so
if ur town, u should be excited
if ut mafia, ur like 'oh ****'
and u were definitely giving me the 'oh ****' vibes[/I]

@Karla - Where's the rest of the conversation, though? Because if I remember right, the reason mogyay claimed to you was you didn't trust her. Did you not include it because it makes you look scummy? If you were town, I don't see why you wouldn't post it.


and here's what I find odd about the whole panda and mogs thing..
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:11 PM
i'm just too worried about dying
Panda - Last Monday at 3:13 PM
Ya....
������
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:14 PM
do u think i'm doing something wrong?
Panda - Last Monday at 3:15 PM
No not at all
I just don't know what the best route would be
Shoot tonight ? And who ? Or risk being killed and wait and don't shoot ?
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:16 PM
i mean it's tough
kirby will probably get lynched either way
so it might be a waste of a shot
but then that's a waste of a lynch
Panda - Last Monday at 3:17 PM
Ya if you shoot him it gives us a chance to lynch another Mafia D2
So it just depends on how you wanna look at it, or you can shot someone else you might think is Mafia that we might have a hard time lynching D2
That's kinda what I did when I was vig and I was wrong and I killed a town member I felt so bad haha
Kirby is probably the safest bet if you choose to shoot
I think you have a little more than 2 hours to decided ��
@Panda - From what I put in bold, if you are town, why did you care who her target was? The only reason I see a need to know who it was, is if you're mafia and you were making sure to not overlap your KP.
 
@Chrytina that last bit i wasn't really asking her, it was more of me thinking out loud, i didnt want information from her, it was me thinking out loud to her to help her sort it out.... "no i don't think you are doing anything wrong i just don't know what the best route would be, shoot tonight, and if so who, or maybe don't shoot tonight and hope to not get killed." sorry if it seems confusing.
 
@Fleshy thats fine, what else do you want to see? thats what we are talking about right ? her claiming and how we (Karla, you, myself) handled the conversation after that right ? i don't know why you are disappointed with that... if there is anymore information that you are seeking that you don't feel was provided then just ask and i will try to clarify and provide information if i can.

Fleshy you don't find it weird that Tom is working behind the scenes ?

No no that's cool, I don't know why but when Tom asked for the "communication" I thought he meant the full conversation but now that I think about it that's pointless, all we were speaking about is the roleclaim and what came after, so yeah that makes sense that that'd be all you'd post. Just while getting my Discord messages from Mog i seen some messaged that you'd sent her (that she then sent me) that you hadn't posted and I thought you'd cropped them out, but actually they just came either before or after the conversation you posted, so it's cool. I just got myself confused for a brief moment.

anyway, here it is;
mogyay - Last Monday at 9:51 PM
ALRIGHT SO I TRUST U
YOURE 100% TOWN
?
if i die tonight then ill set it up so ppl suspect u lol
i'm vig!
so if u find anything out plz tell me
if we both live then we r both town for sure
Fleshy - Last Monday at 9:54 PM
ooh **** cool!
what do u do as vig??
mogyay - Last Monday at 9:54 PM
i have one kill!
Fleshy - Last Monday at 9:54 PM
oh right! that's good omg
mogyay - Last Monday at 9:54 PM
omg
kirby just said something weird
i wanna see what u make of it
Fleshy - Last Monday at 9:55 PM
oh **** okay
mogyay - Last Monday at 9:55 PM
[9:49 PM] Kirbystarship: I'm jester.
[9:51 PM] mogyay: what?
[9:51 PM] mogyay: isn't that a third party role?
[9:52 PM] Kirbystarship: yes
[9:53 PM] mogyay: so you're telling me tom is lying?
[9:54 PM] mogyay: why didn't you counter claim/
NEW MESSAGES
[9:54 PM] Kirbystarship: No this game has 2 third partys.
Fleshy - Last Monday at 9:56 PM
?????????
oh man
mogyay - Last Monday at 9:56 PM
guess it could be tru
BUT IDK
IF ITS NOT IM SCREWED
Fleshy - Last Monday at 9:56 PM
this just keeps getting more confusing
isnt jester supposed to get themselves killed(edited)
I'm kind of sus of tom anyway tbh
idk what to make of that honesty
Fleshy - Last Monday at 10:01 PM
god this game is confusing
mogyay - Last Monday at 10:22 PM
ugh i hate it
Fleshy - Last Monday at 10:26 PM
i wonder who cop is?
mogyay - Last Monday at 10:28 PM
i might send in my kill 4 kirby
??
Fleshy - Last Monday at 10:28 PM
oh really??
maybe a good move tbh
mogyay - Last Monday at 10:28 PM
ya no point wasting a lynch on him
IF HE IS JESTER then it means he cant win anyway
but i dont think he is
Fleshy - Last Monday at 10:29 PM
exactly he either actually is jester or maf so it desnt matter either way
i'd go for it
liam just said the same
mogyay - Last Monday at 10:40 PM
i roleclaimed to karla sigh
if i die hes mafia but hes probs not
Fleshy - Last Monday at 10:40 PM
oh
hmm
mogyay - Last Monday at 10:45 PM
idk what to doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
tom seems to think it's pointless shooting kirby
but it's a waste of a lynch
Fleshy - Last Monday at 10:46 PM
i wouldn't trust tom idk
i don't understand anything he's saying ot doing
so lynching kirby would be a waste but lynching the doc wasn't???????(edited)
Fleshy - Last Monday at 11:08 PM
Kirbystarship - Today at 11:08 PM
Jk I'm not Jester.
I love playing around with town.
what
mogyay - Last Monday at 11:08 PM
what
the
****
lol
Fleshy - Last Monday at 11:09 PM
oh god what
is he saying he's maf then????
have you spoken to chrys much?
mogyay - Last Monday at 11:13 PM
nah i kinda wanted to hear her explanation
Fleshy - Last Monday at 11:13 PM
me too
mogyay - Last Monday at 11:13 PM
lol i roleclaimed to panda
i know this is dumb but the more ppl i tell the most they know i'm town and i can't die later
if i claim i'm vig after i've killed they might think i'm lying
Fleshy - Last Monday at 11:14 PM
but what if you die tonight?
like someone you roleclaimed to might be mafia ahh
mogyay - Last Monday at 11:14 PM
then either karla or panda are mafia
August 16, 2016
mogyay - Yesterday at 1:30 AM
im still confused
Fleshy - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
about everything or something in particular?
me too though
mogyay - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
who i should kill : (
Fleshy - Yesterday at 1:31 AM
idk like kirby seems like the clear option but
tom kind of has a point idk
it's hard
mogyay - Yesterday at 1:32 AM
sob
Fleshy - Yesterday at 1:32 AM
u really have a hard job uhh
mogyay - Yesterday at 1:32 AM
mabye i should see if i survive
Fleshy - Yesterday at 1:33 AM
i don't see u being killed
mogyay - Yesterday at 1:35 AM
just gonna send it in 4 kirbs lol
Fleshy - Yesterday at 1:35 AM
i would too honestly
mogyay - Yesterday at 1:35 AM
ok
oh btw i didn't say to panda i told u
Fleshy - Yesterday at 1:37 AM
ah okay!
mogyay - Yesterday at 1:37 AM
sent
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
shes still convinced lol
Fleshy - Yesterday at 1:38 AM
aahhh
god the suspense
mogyay - Yesterday at 2:00 AM
i bet i killed town
that is such a me thing to do
Fleshy - Yesterday at 2:02 AM
well nobody would blame you if u did
i mean kirby was being weird af

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(Just saying now, I'll be away for an hour or so, no longer though)

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Oh and abut the Tom thing, no not really, seems to me he's just trying to make sense of the whole thing, which really everyone should want to know anyway.
 
@Fleshy no not just trying to work it out like all of us, i mean him trying to threaten me and trying to make an alignment with me to keep me quiet ?
 
tome i seen u viewing the thread for a while i expected u to say something about pandas accusation that youre working with Karla
 
Tom;s conversation with me when he still thought i wanted a Chrystina lynch today. he knows he's probably town and didnt mind that i wanted lynch her but now that the focus is on Karla he isn't true to his word.

Panda - Last Sunday at 9:05 PM
YOU are the DEVIL
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:05 PM
Maybe
But I can assure you I'm not the devils you're lookin for
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:08 PM
so you're SK ?
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:08 PM
No I am what I say I am
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:10 PM
but you're not being fully truthful ?
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:10 PM
how so
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:13 PM
it was a question but maybe i need to do my research hmm.... ? ?
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:15 PM
Go for it
Dig for whatever you want, but a lynch for me is a wasted lynch
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:15 PM
i don't think it is
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:16 PM
You never do
So before you dig I suggest considering how you'd like to proceed Panda
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:16 PM
you helped lynch our doctor and you are trying to low-key make me look sus when im the only obvious town
WTF does that mean ? ? ? ?
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:16 PM
If I wanted you gone I would have done it no?
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:16 PM
WTF does that mean ?
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:17 PM
The way I see it we're at an impass
You don't trust me because I lynched Crys anyways and because I played Devil's Advocate
However I still have just enough trust to potentially follow a Chrystina lynch or whatever lynch you decide to lead
Essentially I'm offering to sheep whatever case you bring up next so long as we play nice ��
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:18 PM
why ? whats in it for you ?
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:18 PM
An ally for now
Despite talking with a few others I don't fully have their ears
Really the only problem is Cory
Who will no doubt ride our asses
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:24 PM
im still not fully understanding.....
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:33 PM
just pretend i'm an extra vote for whatever case you have
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:33 PM
but WHY
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:34 PM
why does it matter
Panda - Last Sunday at 9:34 PM
cause it does(edited)
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 9:41 PM
Our interests seem to align for now
Panda - Last Sunday at 10:21 PM
And how exactly do I benefit from an alignment with you ? Just your promise to vote on who I think is Mafia D2 ?
Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 10:51 PM
Kinda yeah
Panda - Last Sunday at 11:22 PM
Kinda ?
Kinda ?!?
August 15, 2016

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he probably knows she's town *

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he probably knows she's town *
 
tome i seen u viewing the thread for a while i expected u to say something about pandas accusation that youre working with Karla
lol what's there to say, Panda's gone mental. Situation with me doesn't work out in her favor so she starts trying to flip the tables and make me look worse. But okay fine I'll reply to her


haha this is a joke right ? Tom you are so scummy. so let me get this right you are calling me scum and voting for me because i DIDNT TELL VIG WHAT TO DO.... how about we talk about how you threaten me and then wanted to make a alignment with me ? you are so untrustworthy you said you would vote with me D2 and as soon as I don't want to vote Chrystina anymore and vote Karla you turn on me ? so A. that clears Chrystina and B. makes Karla your scum buddy.

@Fleshy where is your conversation with Mog im not taking Tom's word for it.

Fleshy you don't find it weird that Tom is working behind the scenes ?
I am calling you scummy because that whole conversation reeks, not to mention you didn't even want to share it with me at first to begin with. You got so defensive about the entire thing it was setting off red flags left and right, whereas Karla posted what all he had left and Fleshy was more than willing to supply what I asked for without a second thought.

Trent29193 - Yesterday at 3:28 AM
Suppose so
What all did Mog tell you btw

Panda - Yesterday at 3:31 AM
Not much she was just scared for her life
��

Trent29193 - Yesterday at 3:32 AM
Ok

Trent29193 - Yesterday at 5:13 AM
Bout what time was that for you btw

Panda - Yesterday at 12:46 PM
What time for what ?

Trent29193 - Yesterday at 12:47 PM
What time did mog tell you all that

Panda - Yesterday at 12:48 PM
Oh it was like a couple hours before deadline

I went to her first since because we were loosely working together and I thought she'd be more forthcoming than Fleshy/Karla at the time, but instead vague answers. Drop it then since I had to take care of Fair stuff, press later.

I DM Fleshy before bedish

Trent29193 - Yesterday at 11:02 PM
Got a question for ya since Panda is being dodgy about it
What time did Mog fill you in and what all did she say?

Panda - Yesterday at 11:06 PM
O I C
Are you speaking with Karla outside the thread ?
Trent29193 - Yesterday at 11:11 PM
no
Panda - Yesterday at 11:11 PM
Not at all ? ��
Trent29193 - Yesterday at 11:12 PM
No I haven't talked to him outside the thread
Panda - Yesterday at 11:12 PM
He has a discord account ?
Trent29193 - Yesterday at 11:12 PM
Yes, he's in the main TBT one sometimes
Panda - Yesterday at 11:13 PM
Hmmm...

Get the neat stuff around 5 AM my time.

Karla posts his stuff here 6 AM my time.

Go back, pressure Panda some more for the log.

Trent29193 - Today at 11:16 AM
What all did Mog say to you exactly Panda? I gotta know

Panda - Today at 2:30 PM
Why ?
About what ?
We talked for hours and hours what's exactly do you need to know ?

Trent29193 - Today at 2:42 PM
I want the logs and timestamps

Panda - Today at 2:42 PM
Ok tell me why
You seems worried right now

Trent29193 - Today at 2:44 PM
I just want em to clear ya

Panda - Today at 2:44 PM
You want them to clear me ? Tom are you serious you KNOW I'm not Mafia

Trent29193 - Today at 2:45 PM
Still I would like to remove you from the suspect list

Panda - Today at 2:50 PM
Don't play that game with me it might have worked for Karla but it's not gonna work for me... You said you would vote with me today and now you are going back on you're word so what you meant to say was you would vote with me today as long as I voted for town ?

Trent29193 - Today at 2:52 PM
I think at this point you are voting town considering how less than forthcoming you're being rn
Both Karla and Fleshy shared their logs without hesitation, I don't see why you're putting up such a fuss about it

Panda - Today at 2:56 PM
im not putting up a fuss i will share them to everyone one.... im just not with my laptop right this second and im not gonna screen shot all of it....

Trent29193 - Today at 2:58 PM
When ya planning to do that

Panda - Today at 2:59 PM
WHAT is your deal yo seem really pushy right now, not like your usually self, worried ?

Trent29193 - Today at 3:09 PM
Somethin ain't right with this game

Panda - Today at 3:17 PM
ya YOU

Trent29193 - Today at 3:26 PM
You keep saying that but this entire game you've been on edge and antagonistic [Dictionary]
| [Thesaurus]

Panda - Today at 3:35 PM
don't use big words with me

I mean honestly why withhold the conversation with a dead person unless it incriminates you in some way?

Anyways I haven't actually done work behind the scenes besides a few DMs I sent out, but most of the recipients are dead (Crys, Mog), I haven't sent more stuff back to, or well I think it's time to cut them off (Panda). No Karla though, no DMs on Discord and no PMs on here.
 
@Fleshy no not just trying to work it out like all of us, i mean him trying to threaten me and trying to make an alignment with me to keep me quiet ?

Yeah that is a little weird...

I don't know, very recently you seem more transparent and believable compared to the others (Karla/Chrys/Tom) hmm..

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oh wait, maybe not (after reading tom's post)
 
Yeah that is a little weird...

I don't know, very recently you seem more transparent and believable compared to the others (Karla/Chrys/Tom) hmm..

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oh wait, maybe not (after reading tom's post)

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Yeah don't let her sway ya
 
@Fleshy the reason why im not willing to share every little thing to Tom is cause I DONT TRUST HIM. I've made that very clear. now if that makes me scummy, then fine but im not gonna believe him when he lynched out doctor and then threaten me and tried to make an alignment and then now won't hold up his end of the deal. if i have to die to prove it to you guys, then so be it, i just hope its not too late after that.

@Tom you are twisting everything, i wasn't never with holding of information, i felt weird that you were trying to get it out of me so suddenly like you are scared, you seems rushed and worried so know exactly what Mog told me, maybe she had more to say about you and you were worried ?
 
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