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[Trent the Paladin]

@Tom you are twisting everything, i wasn't never with holding of information, i felt weird that you were trying to get it out of me so suddenly like you are scared, you seems rushed and worried so know exactly what Mog told me, maybe she had more to say about you and you were worried ?

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=8275936

No I disagree, you were pretty much aiming to withhold information. If I hadn't DMed you and then posted in the thread, did you even have the intentions of sharing this with the rest of us? I'm not worried about what Mog said about me honestly, I was more interested in figuring out who killed her. Honestly Mog was the one suspicious of you.

mogyay - Last Sunday at 8:31 PM
Panda: if you want to confirm my town meta ask Tom or someone who knows me
is panda playing by her meta?

Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 8:31 PM
I'll be honest and say I haven't really focused on Panda
So if she is or isn't I wouldn't know at the moment
If you believe she's tunneling on a single person, then I'd say yes she is playing by her meta

mogyay - Last Sunday at 8:33 PM
**** im so confused rn lol

Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 8:34 PM
when in doubt go with your gut
it's almost never wrong

mogyay - Last Sunday at 8:35 PM
I dont like pm games
I feel really horrible

Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 8:35 PM
why

mogyay - Last Sunday at 8:36 PM
Idk im basically telling panda I dont trust her and I feel mean

Trent29193 - Last Sunday at 8:36 PM
It happens, don't feel bad. �� Only feel bad if ya lie hardcore

 

[Fleshy]

@Fleshy the reason why im not willing to share every little thing to Tom is cause I DONT TRUST HIM. I've made that very clear. now if that makes me scummy, then fine but im not gonna believe him when he lynched out doctor and then threaten me and tried to make an alignment and then now won't hold up his end of the deal. if i have to die to prove it to you guys, then so be it, i just hope its not too late after that.

@Tom you are twisting everything, i wasn't never with holding of information, i felt weird that you were trying to get it out of me so suddenly like you are scared, you seems rushed and worried so know exactly what Mog told me, maybe she had more to say about you and you were worried ?

Yeah but what don't you trust him with? What has been said between you and Mog that you wouldn't feel safe posting it or you feel it'd put you in danger or something if you did? I mean I don't really fully trust anyone but I'd be willing to post my conversation. It's so much more than that that's making you come across scummy.. I mean if you truly are town and are truly trying to do what's best for us then good but it really isn't coming across that way. If you do die and flip green though... :eyes: (but honestly I don't see that happening). you're bringing back that "willing to die" thing again but in a slightly different way hmm. I feel like i'm being pulled two+ ways honestly

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Yeah but what don't you trust him with? What has been said between you and Mog that you wouldn't feel safe posting it or you feel it'd put you in danger or something if you did? I mean I don't really fully trust anyone but I'd be willing to post my conversation. It's so much more than that that's making you come across scummy.. I mean if you truly are town and are truly trying to do what's best for us then good but it really isn't coming across that way. If you do die and flip green though... :eyes: (but honestly I don't see that happening). you're bringing back that "willing to die" thing again but in a slightly different way hmm. I feel like i'm being pulled two+ ways honestly

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Appeal_to_Emotion

"I'll die for you Crys!!" >could have shared the Doc with her scummates
"I'll die to prove it" >Is scum trying to avoid the noose

 

[PandaDarling]

http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=8275936

No I disagree, you were pretty much aiming to withhold information. If I hadn't DMed you and then posted in the thread, did you even have the intentions of sharing this with the rest of us? I'm not worried about what Mog said about me honestly, I was more interested in figuring out who killed her. Honestly Mog was the one suspicious of you.

@Tom Yes i was gonna share the conversation i just didnt want to share it with only you, which is what you were trying to get you said

Trent29193 - Today at 8:16 AM
What all did Mog say to you exactly Panda? I gotta know

you didnt say share it in the thread or let people know or anything you wanted it for ourself and i wasn't ok with that.


and Mog asking you about my meta that was so early in the game, and she did end up going with her gut that wasn't wrong and she trusted me.

DO NOT TRUST TOM ! IF AND WHEN I GET LYNCHED TODAY, DONT LET HIM TALK HIS WAY OUT OF IT, just like he did when he lynched our Doctor, ! BS.

 

[Chrystina]

i

don't know what to think anymore

this sums up my thoughts exactly.

 

[PandaDarling]

yourself *

 

[Fleshy]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Appeal_to_Emotion

"I'll die for you Crys!!" >could have shared the Doc with her scummates
"I'll die to prove it" >Is scum trying to avoid the noose

Yeah but crys was like "if you all lynch me you're making a mistake" (not exactly that, but similar) and things again and again and they were actually doc. So clearly that's not always the case, and it's normal to want to save yourself.

Not sure if this is just an attempt to paint Panda as even more scummy and get her out of the way

 

[Trent the Paladin]

@Tom Yes i was gonna share the conversation i just didnt want to share it with only you, which is what you were trying to get you said

Trent29193 - Today at 8:16 AM
What all did Mog say to you exactly Panda? I gotta know

you didnt say share it in the thread or let people know or anything you wanted it for ourself and i wasn't ok with that.


and Mog asking you about my meta that was so early in the game, and she did end up going with her gut that wasn't wrong and she trusted me.

DO NOT TRUST TOM ! IF AND WHEN I GET LYNCHED TODAY, DONT LET HIM TALK HIS WAY OUT OF IT, just like he did when he lynched our Doctor, ! BS.

She didn't trust you though, she didn't tell you about Fleshy. And she made a mistake in trusting you because you manipulated her into shooting Kirby.

Poor Crys, you've beaten their corpse so much why can't you let the dead find their peace?

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Yeah but crys was like "if you all lynch me you're making a mistake" (not exactly that, but similar) and things again and again and they were actually doc. So clearly that's not always the case, and it's normal to want to save yourself.

Not sure if this is just an attempt to paint Panda as even more scummy and get her out of the way

I'll admit that's part of the reason I kept trucking with Crys, but there's this extra special case of desperation here with Panda.

 

[PandaDarling]

She didn't trust you though, she didn't tell you about Fleshy. And she made a mistake in trusting you because you manipulated her into shooting Kirby.

Poor Crys, you've beaten their corpse so much why can't you let the dead find their peace?

Tom show me where i manipulated Mog ? show me something i did that Fleshy didnt ? the only difference between the 3 conversations Mog had with Me, Flashy, and Kalra.... is that Kalra was scared he was gonna get shot and he was telling Mog what to do, neither Fleshy no I did that SO....... ? ?? ?

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Tom show me where i manipulated Mog ? show me something i did that Fleshy didnt ? the only difference between the 3 conversations Mog had with Me, Flashy, and Kalra.... is that Kalra was scared he was gonna get shot and he was telling Mog what to do, neither Fleshy no I did that SO....... ? ?? ?

It's quite clear you were playing dumb and anytime she brought up using her shot you kept nudging her towards Kirby, but then going "Oh but like that's just my thought haha". Out of all the people you could have given her to shoot and you only nudge Kirby? If you don't trust me, why not tell her to shoot me? And you didn't trust Chrystina, why not tell Mog to shoot her?

 

[Chrystina]

ahhhhhhh ok theres only an hour and a half left.. and i don't wanna be the reason all hell breaks lose right before day end. placing my vote now & I gotta go with my initial gut feeling... sorry panda.

 

[Seroja]

Ok I have to do a lot of thinking within an hour but I'll park my vote first so that I don't miss the deadline.

@Panda so did you or did you not make an alliance with Tom in the first place? I thought you said you didn't want to? So why are you angry that Tom isn't voting for who you want?

 

[N e s s]

ahhhhhhh ok theres only an hour and a half left.. and i don't wanna be the reason all hell breaks lose right before day end. placing my vote now & I gotta go with my initial gut feeling... sorry panda.

Wait just a second why are you apologizing if you think she's scum?

 

[Seroja]

Parking my vote on Panda cos she's been contradictory throughout. My vote is not final though. I'm rereading the last few pages again.

 

[N e s s]

I'm leaning more towards a Christina lynch because that "sorry panda" just screams off.

I'm weighing the cons between panda/Christina/Karla lynches right now.

 

[Byngo]

this fkin game is stressing me out I'm just gonna vote panda. after watching **** go down on discord she appears a little more scummy than tom, Karla or chrys

 

[Chrystina]

Wait just a second why are you apologizing if you think she's scum?

[8:02 PM] Panda: I TRUSTED YOU ��

in a DM. Panda and I had agreed to not tunnel each other (see my post from earlier today) but since I was going back on that I felt a need to apologize. Panda and I are pretty close outside the cellar/mafia, so I just felt bad going back on what I told her, and that she was possibly scum again.

you're missing everything on discord, btw.

 

[Seroja]

this fkin game is stressing me out I'm just gonna vote panda. after watching **** go down on discord she appears a little more scummy than tom, Karla or chrys

Oh so that's where she is. I'm waiting for her to answer my question because it might make me change my vote.

 

[Liamslash]

Oh so that's where she is. I'm waiting for her to answer my question because it might make me change my vote.

Too late there