My Misanthropy and Misc. Talking Points

[Introspective Onlooker]

Amazing. Just amazing. As far back as middle school (maybe even earlier), the phrase: "I hate people" often popped up in my head. I've said this plenty of times over the years, but it was mostly a heat-of-the-moment saying for me. I knew of people who were genuine when they made these anti-human sentiments — "misanthropes". To be frank, I never understood how anyone can be truly misanthropic. Humans depend on other humans to survive, so if you, as a human, want to stay alive, you might as well tolerate and cooperate with the jackasses in your vicinity. This year — hell, this decade — has made me realize that I might've been a closeted misanthrope this entire time. Or at least, it's pushed me in that direction recently.

2024 has been an incredibly awful year — definitely worse than 2023. I don't want to delve too deep into my personal life right now, though I do have some things to say about my health (both physical and mental). For the first few paragraphs, I'll just rant about the general things about humanity that makes this disgusting species as revolting as it is.

The stupidity and lack of self-awareness, especially when it comes to politics, religion, and science denial because of the former two. People being too stupid to know what shape the Earth is, and buying into other dumb conspiracy theories, such as chemtrails being real (they aren't; they're just contrails and these same dum-dums have no clue how aerodynamics work, anyway). Side note: there is no such thing as a "true" conspiracy theory. If it's true, it's NOT a conspiracy "theory", anymore, you dumb****. I saw someone on Reddit a month ago with this dumb statement, and it was written when lockdown was still active. Goddamn, Redditors are some of the stupidest people on the Internet. **** Reddit. It encompasses EVERY SINGLE THING I hate about the Internet in a single website. Don't even get me started on conservatives denying climate change caused by human activity, but that the government somehow has the power to control tornadoes. Christ. Human stupidity truly is limitless, isn't it?

People who pushed their religion to make everything worse for everyone are especially vile. Screw them and their crappy "holy" texts. I especially abhor these evangelical Christians who don't actually understand the foundations in which Western civilization was built upon, and want to claim their rights and beliefs are attacked when they've historically been the violators. Screw these morons, too. Christians, please put these disingenuous assclowns in their place and stop them from using your beliefs in such a way.

Another thing: stop pretending that atheism and agnosticism are mutually exclusive. No, they ****in' aren't. Atheism and theism are mutually exclusive. Theism and gnosticism deal with belief and knowledge, respectively AND independently. Acting as if identifying as an agnostic will somehow distant yourself from some of the hot-headed atheists that mock religious people doesn't mean you don't have agnostics who act similar to those atheists, or think their position is somehow the most rational position when the reason the bloody word was coined in the first place because it's a method to approach unfamiliar concepts, not just specifically to one thing — like the existence of a god. If someone asks you if you believe in a god, answer truthfully and just say you're an agnostic atheist. "I don't know" doesn't address belief; it addresses knowledge, in which we are all agnostic on.

Politics. I'm not gonna brush around my distaste for right-wingers. I made a couple of posts about the results of the US 2024 presidential election in the "What's Bothering You?" thread. Voting for an orange buffoon who was charged with 34 felonies and his dimwitted cult of ****ing brainlets denying all the cases and brandishing him as a messiah is easily one of the United States' lowest points in its nearly 250-year history as a racist, sexist, bigoted country that dresses itself in the guise of a nation with "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as its motto, but rarely ever actually acts on these principles. **** America. **** anyone gloating about the reactions of people who feared another Trump term, because a vote for Trump WASN'T a ****ing vote for freedom, OR the economy that he's going to botch up even more so than he did in his first term, you stupid ********. You voted for a fascist dictator. You're too ****ing to realize that you voted for fascist dictator because you were already sold on dog-whistles and platitudes. You view him as "God's Chosen" because he reinforced everything you're against. You supported him because he already supports the hypocritical, narrow-minded beliefs that you hold.

And **** anyone who voted third party because they stupidly thought the two major parties weren't at all any different when it came to Gaza — that's virtue signaling BS. Just because you didn't vote for either Harris or Trump, doesn't mean that Palestinian blood isn't on your hands, as well, because a vote for Jill Stein or any other third party candidate indirectly helped no one but either of the other two candidates that had any real chance of winning. American voters should ****ing stop protest voting and learn how electoral mechanics work.

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Here some other stuff I want to get out of the way:

• Double standards, especially when it comes to sex/gender. It's okay for this specific sex to wear this specific article of clothing, but the other sex should be shunned for wearing the same. So much for gender equality, amirite?
• People projecting their own faults onto others instead of recognizing their own status as an unbearable PoS.
• The fact that no one seems interested in good faith conversation anymore; don't wanna look into their own arguments to see if they make any sense or not.
• People basing their expectations via stereotypes portrayed in the media, and using those expectations to mold their opinion on others.
• The stupid tribalism present in every facet of society when we should've moved passed it centuries ago.
• Science-illiterate simpletons speaking on science they haven't a ****ing clue about.
• Microplastics, and how no one seems to care. Need to make a thread about that before this year ends.

And so on. Hopefully I elucidate on all of these things in due time in separate instances.

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This year has done damage to both my mental health, and my immune system. The mental health bit should be pretty clear by now, but I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease I won't specify or allude to right now. This was two years ago, in May of 2022. The only reason I'm still alive is because of the medicine I'm financially covered for. I just want to accomplish what I set out to do, then die peacefully once I'm done with this ****** planet filled with ****** people in it. **** everyone. **** the Internet. I'll make a thread about microplastics soon, as I think that's an important health and environmental issue. After that, no one here will see or hear anymore of me until after this ****** year is over. I want to at least spend the last week of it in the comfort of my family and not spoil my mood by being the on the Internet as often as I am.

 

[Suguri]

poof! all gone.

 

[Tude]

Amazing. Just amazing. As far back as middle school (maybe even earlier), the phrase: "I hate people" often popped up in my head. I've said this plenty of times over the years, but it was mostly a heat-of-the-moment saying for me. I knew of people who were genuine when they made these anti-human sentiments — "misanthropes". To be frank, I never understood how anyone can be truly misanthropic. Humans depend on other humans to survive, so if you, as a human, want to stay alive, you might as well tolerate and cooperate with the jackasses in your vicinity. This year — hell, this decade — has made me realize that I might've been a closeted misanthrope this entire time. Or at least, it's pushed me in that direction recently.

2024 has been an incredibly awful year — definitely worse than 2023. I don't want to delve too deep into my personal life right now, though I do have some things to say about my health (both physical and mental). For the first few paragraphs, I'll just rant about the general things about humanity that makes this disgusting species as revolting as it is.

The stupidity and lack of self-awareness, especially when it comes to politics, religion, and science denial because of the former two. People being too stupid to know what shape the Earth is, and buying into other dumb conspiracy theories, such as chemtrails being real (they aren't; they're just contrails and these same dum-dums have no clue how aerodynamics work, anyway). Side note: there is no such thing as a "true" conspiracy theory. If it's true, it's NOT a conspiracy "theory", anymore, you dumb****. I saw someone on Reddit a month ago with this dumb statement, and it was written when lockdown was still active. Goddamn, Redditors are some of the stupidest people on the Internet. **** Reddit. It encompasses EVERY SINGLE THING I hate about the Internet in a single website. Don't even get me started on conservatives denying climate change caused by human activity, but that the government somehow has the power to control tornadoes. Christ. Human stupidity truly is limitless, isn't it?

People who pushed their religion to make everything worse for everyone are especially vile. Screw them and their crappy "holy" texts. I especially abhor these evangelical Christians who don't actually understand the foundations in which Western civilization was built upon, and want to claim their rights and beliefs are attacked when they've historically been the violators. Screw these morons, too. Christians, please put these disingenuous assclowns in their place and stop them from using your beliefs in such a way.

Another thing: stop pretending that atheism and agnosticism are mutually exclusive. No, they ****in' aren't. Atheism and theism are mutually exclusive. Theism and gnosticism deal with belief and knowledge, respectively AND independently. Acting as if identifying as an agnostic will somehow distant yourself from some of the hot-headed atheists that mock religious people doesn't mean you don't have agnostics who act similar to those atheists, or think their position is somehow the most rational position when the reason the bloody word was coined in the first place because it's a method to approach unfamiliar concepts, not just specifically to one thing — like the existence of a god. If someone asks you if you believe in a god, answer truthfully and just say you're an agnostic atheist. "I don't know" doesn't address belief; it addresses knowledge, in which we are all agnostic on.

Politics. I'm not gonna brush around my distaste for right-wingers. I made a couple of posts about the results of the US 2024 presidential election in the "What's Bothering You?" thread. Voting for an orange buffoon who was charged with 34 felonies and his dimwitted cult of ****ing brainlets denying all the cases and brandishing him as a messiah is easily one of the United States' lowest points in its nearly 250-year history as a racist, sexist, bigoted country that dresses itself in the guise of a nation with "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" as its motto, but rarely ever actually acts on these principles. **** America. **** anyone gloating about the reactions of people who feared another Trump term, because a vote for Trump WASN'T a ****ing vote for freedom, OR the economy that he's going to botch up even more so than he did in his first term, you stupid ********. You voted for a fascist dictator. You're too ****ing to realize that you voted for fascist dictator because you were already sold on dog-whistles and platitudes. You view him as "God's Chosen" because he reinforced everything you're against. You supported him because he already supports the hypocritical, narrow-minded beliefs that you hold.

And **** anyone who voted third party because they stupidly thought the two major parties weren't at all any different when it came to Gaza — that's virtue signaling BS. Just because you didn't vote for either Harris or Trump, doesn't mean that Palestinian blood isn't on your hands, as well, because a vote for Jill Stein on any other third party candidate indirectly helped no one but either of the other two candidates that had any real chance of winning. American voters should ****ing stop protest voting and learn how electoral mechanics work.

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Here some other stuff I want to get out of the way:

• Double standards, especially when it comes to sex/gender. It's okay for this specific sex to wear this specific article of clothing, but the other sex should be shunned for wearing the same. So much for gender equality, amirite?
• People projecting their own faults onto others instead of recognizing their own status as an unbearable PoS.
• The fact that no one seems interested in good faith conversation anymore; don't wanna look into their own arguments to see if they make any sense or not.
• People basing their expectations via stereotypes portrayed in the media, and using those expectations to mold their opinion on others.
• The stupid tribalism present in every facet of society when we should've moved passed it centuries ago.
• Science-illiterate simpletons speaking on science they haven't a ****ing clue about.
• Microplastics, and how no one seems to care. Need to make a thread about that before this year ends.

And so on. Hopefully I elucidate on all of these things in due time in separate instances.

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This year has done damage to both my mental health, and my immune system. The mental health bit should be pretty clear by now, but I was diagnosed with an autoimmune disease I won't specify or allude to right now. This was two years ago, in May of 2022. The only reason I'm still alive is because of the medicine I'm financially covered for. I just want to accomplish what I set out to do, then die peacefully once I'm done with this ****** planet filled with ****** people in it. **** everyone. **** the Internet. I'll make a thread about microplastics soon, as I think that's an important health and environmental issue. After that, no one here will see or hear anymore of me until after this ****** year is over. I want to at least spend the last week of it in the comfort of my family and not spoil my mood by being the on the Internet as often as I am.

Hopefully you have the awareness to be able to read your post back and realize how often you call others "stupid." Arrogance isn't cute. Negativity does nothing except weigh *you* down, because others don't like it and tend to disassociate from it. Look for the good around you. As crappy as things can be, and they sure can, there's a lot of good too.

You say "bleep everyone," but I bet at least one person here has been kind to you at some point. If that weren't the case, I really doubt you would've been returning for what- three years now? Hope your health gets better because that can definitely color your worldview.

You don't know me, but I'm always available to anyone who wants to talk. I'm sure there's others willing to extend the same offer. There's some amazing people here. The harm others do will never change that.

 

[Seastar]

I have very complicated feelings about humanity. Occasionally I find myself ranting about all the problems with it in my head. I don't even want to be a human, but that's a different topic.
I don't completely hate humans, but a lot of them only cause problems for others, usually due to how they were raised. Sometimes I wonder why there aren't enough sensible people in the world. It's frightening to realize the current state of things.

Sometimes I think I might be too nice because I will overthink and come to conclusions about why some people act the way they do. Well, at least people that I think aren't intentionally being part of the problem.

I think one of the biggest problems is misinformation. I wish there was a way for less people to be falling for that, but it's unfortunately not possible at the moment.

I know a little bit about microplastics because I got curious once.

 

[seliph]

If your mind is set on "hating everyone" then the world is never going to become a positive place for you.

I'm trans, gay, and a person of colour. The world sucks for us right now. But how hypocritical, how pointless, and how completely unhelpful it would be if I decided to put negativity back into the world, and to hate and distrust my fellow humans instead of overflowing with love and the desire for the world to become a better place. I absolutely refuse to give into the "I hate people" sentiment; it's childish and unproductive to me. The world is full of good people who ultimately want the best for everyone, it's just unfortunate that the minority is louder.

Essentially, if you want the world to be a better place, you have to make the effort to make it better for those around you.

 

[Midoriya]

I had to think about this topic for awhile before replying, but I think that in some ways the world can be a scary and bad place with people who are misinformed... but I also think that is why people need others in order to support them and lead them the right way. We as humans are the only sentient beings on this planet. In the sense that we can freely acquire more knowledge and skills as we grow older. Animals and plants don't have that luxury. They just do things based on instinct or how they're constructed. That is why I believe it's important to still attempt to be happy and have fun when you can, because we only get this opportunity as sentient beings once. And to do otherwise, to spread hate and injustices in the world, is the ultimate disservice to everyone who's ever been kind to or supported you. We're only one species, so why do we spend so much time disliking and hating each other? That is perhaps the question I want answered the most, but will probably never a find an answer to.

 

[skarmoury]

It kind of is very easy to fall in the pit trap of negativity and misanthropy. There are definitely many times when I've been immensely disappointed or downright depressed because of the things around me, mainly things I have very little control over. And if there's one thing I have to advice for the smaller things: get off social media.

I've been there, I've done that. I've scrolled through facebook and reddit and twitter for years, always clicking on posts that stir up so much controversy that the only thing I could feel was an immense surge of negativity that it ruins my day. I let myself get all of this to me that I'm unable to be productive. Then I guess at some point I realized that the better way to go about this is to use this energy to do something positive, something productive, instead of sitting in front of my screen typing oodles of arguments. Majority of online arguments lead no where, so why bother?

Last night my uncle was telling me how he and his small team threw a Christmas party for the cancer kids at a local hospital. Gathered some of the hospital staff, organized a celebration, gave gifts away. He said that while we can't do much about long-term cancers, we can make their lives a little brighter each day. And that touched me a lot.

You can't change the weather, but you can adjust your sails.

If you prefer to continue with this line of misanthropy then you're free to do so, but know that it'll only worsen yourself. Choosing to be stuck in a rut for too long will hinder you from being more, which is a shame since we need all hands on deck if we want a positive outcome for us and many others.

 

[-Mars-]

[Insert preferred honorific] this is an Animal Crossing forum not Twitter/Reddit etc. /light-hearted

 

[SkyKnight03]

I feel that social media can paint a negative picture of humanity in the sense that we see the absolute worst side of so many. It's not healthy and I can only stomach so much of it before my own sanity is tested.

I had a negative experience on this forum of all places, yet I carried forward because I'd like to think it doesn't represent everybody here. Humanity is complex and like any public space, we share it with all types of people.

In a world now dominated with interconnectivity, it's also important to find our own comforts that we can retreat into. It's difficult when we can tap and connect at a moments notice.

Coming from a person who doesn't really have friends and suffered major depression, I still find myself interested in the sheer scope of different personalities that we inhabit our planet with.

Spoiler

 

[Millysaurusrexjr]

Hey, I can relate to an extent, I have my moments where I think "I hate people". I have a lot of those moments actually. Deep down though I do not hate people, and I don't think you do either! Because while a lot of people are dumb and a lot of people say and do terrible things, there are also a lot of smart people and people who say and do amazing things.

If it weren't for people, we wouldn't have made all these amazing scientific discoveries, we wouldn't have made all this amazing art and music, we wouldn't have all this amazing education and technology. We wouldn't have a wide variety of delectable food. We wouldn't have video games or movies or tv shows or Youtube or any of that. I think it's helpful to think about all the great things that humans have done when I am feeling down about humanity.

I think it is unfair to paint people with a broad brush, even if it's tempting, even if it really does feel like one group of people are truly all the same, but that's just not the way it is. It's not so black and white. Thinking this way can take a toll on you, and can potentially dehumanize groups of people to you. My dad and my grandma are complete polar opposites to eachother when it comes to American political views, and yet they are both completely bitter and jaded. They're not who they used to be. They have let their views completely consume them. It's frustrating.. Things could be much better for sure, but that doesn't mean you should let it drag you down.

I will say though, I agree that it might be a good idea to stay off social media, especially Reddit. Or at least stick to maybe 4 or 5 very niche subreddits, ones that have nothing to do with politics or anything remotely controversial/negative. I logged out of Reddit over a year ago and I feel much more mentally healthy.

 

[Drawdler]

I will just come out and say I’m outright a misanthrope too but I have to find the people worth my time. Honestly I might get where you’re coming from better than a lot of people on this forum. Ever since I was young I had some really aggressive mental tendencies and I do my best not to act on them. Sometimes I just get tired and it comes out to specific people. Most of the time it comes out as me isolating myself so people don’t end up seeing it… it doesn’t really come out anyway but I get afraid of hurting others with it. I don’t like people unless I see a reason to. I’m also pretty damn introverted.

Far as I’m concerned I don’t even have a real dad who honestly tried. He provided us with monetary needs but that's about it. He’s a bad person who tries to fawn when we call out his crap. He’s increasingly bigoted and doesn’t care that he gave me PTSD. The rest of my family essentially left me to die as a constant witness of domestic emotional abuse so I didn’t grow up with someone to love or attach to or something.

Going out, talking with people in general, doing a lot of things that should be leisure for me feel like work. And I think society overall is screwed. But I also think what you’re posting here is just self-destructive. I’m probably overstepping for this forum but this whole thread is anyway- I don’t mean this as an insult but if you aren’t in therapy for these feelings you should try it. I have. I’m still here with most of the same problems and it doesn’t fix the external things but it’s something and there are things you have to confront about yourself and change. I’m upset because I’ve already done so much of it and still feel this way, but if you ruminate on these thoughts and don’t try to move on, you’re not actually processing them imo. And then what’s the point in putting all your energy somewhere negative. Make something for yourself. It’s not going to make up for all those problems and there’s a lot you just can’t make for yourself in current society but it’s what your life is for.

I wish I could be a shapeshifter and live in a private home with my partner for hundreds of years painting and only step out and travel the world at my whim. I wish people were not just concerned about humans with bird flu and society were set up in a way we could still really protect nature at large but. Well. I just have to find the closest ways to indulge my worldview lmao. Just being frustrates me a lot and tbh I’m talking about myself which would probably piss you off more but it’s for the sake of trying to be relatable. Life sucks but you only get one anyway so do the best you can with it.

Nihilism: Everything is meaningless. Versus Absurdism: Don't get depressed because every thing is meaningless, rejoice in this fact and find your own meaning and purpose in a meaningless and purposeless world.

 

[nightglow]

There is a large difference between actual individual people and a mental collage of negative snippets of humanity smashed as one entity.
Have a wonderful time with your family this month. Stay warm and hydrated.

 

[kisaker39]

As someone who has been in a very similar place to you, i understand. if you truly do hate people, that is how you feel. whether or not you try and change that notion, that is how you feel now. I am not going to tell you that humanity is better than you realise, nor am i going to tell you that your hatred is justified. what i will tell you is to not let it bother you.

Don't let it define you. if you see the bad sides of humanity, of course it will bother you. if you are suffering at the hands of others, of course it will bother you. if you define yourself as a misanthrope, it will consume you. it is very consuming to hate.
If you are treated kindly, you will most likely be pleased. if you are treated poorly, you will most likely be displeased. if you are busy hating humanity, you will not notice anything other than cruelty. even if you do not realise it.

humanity has given us all enough reasons to be misanthropes, but do not focus on that. hate humanity when it is necessary. defining yourself as someone who unconditionally hates humanity will consume you, as well as eat away at your wellbeing.