Mafia Mystic Messenger Mafia [Endgame]

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Key:

Strong Town Lean
Slight Town Lean
Null
Suspicious
Slight Scum Lean
Strong Scum Lean


I added suspicious as a new category because if I sus someone it doesn't mean I scum read them.

Bianca

Bianca's tone feels genuine overall, but it felt genuine in the Franchise Wars too so that alone doesn't make me town lean her, I do like how authentic she has been so far. Her being a noob and putting more time into the game than others is appreciated and the amount of posts filler or not, makes me believe she is town.
The amount of gut feelings reminds me a noob town play and her openly sharing her thoughts throughout the game makes me thinks she is town because it doesn't look like she is being passive or holding back what she really thinks.

Dolby

Even without the Dad interactions something about Dolby feels different? I don't know if it's his tone or something though.

Dad vs Dolby

I have no idea how experienced Dad is but the way Dolby put a "slight sus" on him for making shorter posts doesn't feel right because he literally only made 3 posts and the game had barely started. I think this could be an attempt to start a fake interaction between the two or this is scum Dolby doing the exact same thing to Dad as he did to Endless which is a major scum tell because when he is scum his reasoning is usually sub par.

I think the interaction could be town vs scum or scum vs scum right now.

When he is town he does take the town leader role but it feels more natural than these two posts:

Can we have conversation related to the game. I can understand debating about the jester, but we should refrain about talking about avatars

This feels like he is saying: "Stop talking about things I'm not involved with".

No, we shouldn't be considering policy lynching at this point. We're one hour into a 2 day phase

Kinda demanding imo and it's in reply to Ness which brings me to my next section.

I agree with both but it feels as though he is trying to be the town leader rather than how it naturally happens. Being demanding of people to fill that role doesn't feel like town Dolby.

It just feels this way for me, I could be completely wrong and nobody is seeing what I'm seeing.

Dolby vs Ness

Ness: Dolby is scum
Dolby: Ness is too quiet
Ness: He's scum because he tries to act like the town leader and he gets into huge arguments with whoever calls him out.
Dolby: Ness is scummy, barely any posts.
Ness: Why aren't more people sus of Dolby?

I have no idea fam, no idea.

Yeah Dolby is probably scum, I think Ness struck his ego and now he's mad. He literally told Ness to "STFU", scum reads him for barely posting at the time but town reads Karen who hasn't either? Doesn't make much sense and the reason he hasn't addressed your "rebuts" is because he is clearly playing you or he is your scum chum and he may be reaction testing you and has no real intention to argue with you seriously.

I think that them being a scum team is a possibility and I'll address it in my Ness read.

And you've been saying that you and Ness being a scum team makes no sense which makes me think it is.

SIDENOTE: I was just sipping my tea and giggling while I was reading their interactions, Ness has really played Dolby here if Ness is town.

Dolby could be scum along with either Dad or Ness.

Evan

He null read me and town read me in the same post. Post #533, made me laugh.

I don't town read anymore Oliver by the way, after looking at his posts I'm just sitting here like "What the actual goose is going on here". This is kind of because of Bianca's play in the Franchise Wars and I feel as though I shouldn't town read noob players so easily anymore. His posts are really odd in short.

His tone does feel different from the Franchise wars but it doesn't really remind me of Smash mafia either. It feels like he is town because the way he speaks feels natural and it doesn't feel like he is being fake or overly sarcastic/sassy in the Franchise wars. Town reading him for his tone.

I don't like how he suggested that we should lynch either Dolby or Dad and shoot the other in the night, it feels awfully risky and it's anti town because of the chance that either could be town.

Evan feels like he is town overall though despite his suggestion about Dad and Dolby.

Dad

Dad vs Dolby

In short I think Dad is probably town if it's scum vs town and if it's scum vs scum I could probably see it but I don't see anything notably scummy in his replies to Dolby. I think he is handling it rather well and Dolby's arguments are primarily to do with meta yet when I argue my case against Ninja people are like "it was two years ago" and if that what people think it should be the same here. It was three years ago!

He seems to be contributing fairly well and I feel as though he is catching on to many things such. E.g: The fact that Kirby makes subtle posts sometimes which could be seen as him appearing to be helpful but he really isn't.

I feel as though Dolby should look at this game more rather than his previous games because of the argument: "people change within .... years" ad the fact that not all of us have played with him beforehand because most of his points are based on meta.


Fire Ninja

Don't like that he is saying that he has little experience in mafia when he clearly does.

He was smart enough to claim unaware miller when he was called out as mafia in the Franchise Wars and I see no reason why he couldn't claim jester to not be lynched but....That is terrible scum play and terrible town play so it's making me not doubt his claim.

If he goes from making posts with "I'm the Jester" to making serious contributions that will make me raise an eyebrow.

I also doubt that someone would be stupid enough to claim jester that early if they were mafia.

The reason why I was up in your grill was because two jesters is crazy and I feel as though Oliver would be too much of a noob to fake it and he did feel genuine but my opinion has changed after a few of his posts.

Oliver

Makes several posts that are noob like and the whole claim ordeal felt genuine but after that many things that he did were questionable.

He went from making short posts to a constructed reads list, the contents seemed really noobish but he seems to be trying to scum read many people for no real good reason, again I understand that he is a noob but it doesn't mean your motives are unclear.

I feel as though you haven't gotten a real grasp on the game yet because you literally said that you "don't claim Jester anymore"

LMAO I'm not claiming Jester anymore, old man

I'm really confused about you and Ninja right now. :confused:


Mog

Her reads list was made very well and I really appreciate your efforts.

Ness

Summary:

- Don't like how he invalidated Evan for his read on Dolby.
- The "I'll claim because people are sussing me" post was literally what he said in the Franchise Wars wen he was a third party.
- His interactions could be seen as fake or him reaction testing Dolby, I'm neutral on it but him attacking Evan seemed like he was defending Dolby tbh so it adds to them being a scum team imo.
- He's too aggressive, I've only seen him play aggressively when he is pressuring people but he is attacking someone (Evan) rather than pressuring someone so I'm a bit wary.


Everyone else is null.


I agree with Mog that the amount of posts that are dished out is really demotivating to the game especially when many of us have already had busy days, it's hard to keep up especially when you are multi tasking.

Sorry for this being a terrible post, late, fluffy and any of that stuff before anybody says any of that to me for the 100th time on here. :rolleyes: You should know what I'm like by now lol.


Anyway, bon appetite babuh! :D

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Ppl think i am scum heck yes
No but uhhhhhhhhhhh
I feel like i'll end up in this game how zendal ended up last game

Don't worry, you'll probably be awake and able to defend yourself. :lemon:

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Going to be honest, got kinda bored at some points so my writing may be sloppy and my mind has been more focused on several things today.

Not a great day for large posts like this, oh well.

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And yes I'm aware that I only have two scum leans and they are slight so I think the third member could be in my nulls or Oliver/Fire Ninja.
 
if it's my read on u that's totally fair, i wrote out my reads in order of player list on op and i got more and more lazy as i went on. think i'm gonna stick to short lists cause the game is going so quickly anyway
 
@Zendal, I really don't see why you view either of the two quoted posts to be suspicious honestly. The first one isn't "Stop talking about things I'm not involved with" as you think it is. It's "Stop talking about things that aren't involved with the game" because talking about your avatar had absolutely zero value to the game.
As for the second quote, yes it's demanding, but for a good reason, no town should ever have to policy lynch. The fact that we had discussion about policy lynching one hour into a two day phase was irritating, and policy lynching is almost as bad as random lynching in terms of results, and tells us even less about player's alignments.

Anyway, I'm probably going to end up voting for Ness. I'm going to wait until he provides his reasoning for his vote on me (ay, 6 hours now), but he's been acting shifty in my view. His original reasons for sussing me were crap. I like his initial pressuring of Evan, but now it just feels like mudslinging, which he even admits to in this post
That's true, I'm mostly just throwing things at Evan and getting responses. Essentially him building a treehouse for me to destroy later if I choose.
His posts are low-quality, non-contributive (in general), and a large amount ****posts in addition
 
tldr I think she's scum cause she's the only one who referred to me as fidget spinner

cause earlier I said whoever doesn't do it is insta scum
 
>when your townreads are voting Dolby but you're still unsure on Dolby

Am I really the only one who doesn't believe Daniel's survivor claim or is someone just gonna inspect him or something
 
Hello!!! I'm back.

I'm not even gonna bother reading through all the crap I missed. I give up. You all are confusing as hell.
 
>when your townreads are voting Dolby but you're still unsure on Dolby

Am I really the only one who doesn't believe Daniel's survivor claim or is someone just gonna inspect him or something

I'm believe Dan's claim for now. I think when it is a closer to endgame we should keep a eye on him, to make sure he doesn't try and side with mafia.
 
Hello!!! I'm back.

I'm not even gonna bother reading through all the crap I missed. I give up. You all are confusing as hell.
12 pages is nothing, if you hate spam don't contribute to it thx :)

I'm believe Dan's claim for now. I think when it is a closer to endgame we should keep a eye on him, to make sure he doesn't try and side with mafia.
Well near endgame will be his time to strike so
 
If I were to lynch someone at this moment I'd probably choose Kit bc her few posts have been practical regurgitation

I do like how we don't have any real inactives anymore, we've heard from everyone at this point. I'll write a reads list now but nothing too detailed

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Well I just want this game to end as quickly as possible so let's just lynch scum quickly and swiftly thx
 
12 pages is nothing, if you hate spam don't contribute to it thx :)


Well near endgame will be his time to strike so

Ok, here's the thing, he's actually provable given that if we lynch one scum day two or later, since we're using KP. Assuming that the maf win condition is the same as it normally is

In the situation that there is 2 town, 2 mafia, and 1 survivor(non-hostile), would the game end automatically in maf victory?
 
I guess he's easily provable but it still doesn't mean we should trust him, def not a lynch candidate as of now though.

Also didn't we have a similar situation where Cleb claimed jester but game didn't end so you asked that same question, now you're asking again..?
 
I guess he's easily provable but it still doesn't mean we should trust him, def not a lynch candidate as of now though.

Also didn't we have a similar situation where Cleb claimed jester but game didn't end so you asked that same question, now you're asking again..?

Different hosts, different setup. It probably is, but there's no harm in confirming
 
Thank you, Dolby. I couldn't remember if I've already been playing for two days or only one.

Not all of you, but some of you like Heyden seem really hostile to new people. It's just a game. I hope we can all just be a little bit nicer to each other.
 
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