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Mafia Mystic Messenger Mafia [Endgame]
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Decided to look at the scatter of votes, not the most effective way to scumhunt but felt like it would still be sort of helpful I guess. While Ness was third party, from a mafia perspective he was town, so we can essentially say that mafia did have leverage on this lynch towards someone not in their faction. As far as the votes go;
Ness: Oliver, Dolby, Kit, Dad, Amazon, Bianca, Fireninja, Toads
Other: F11, Daniel, Heyden, Mog, Kermit, Kirby, Byngo
And taking out me, Daniel (TP I guess), Bianca (if she's maf she should win tbh), Evan (really really don't think he's maf) and Kirby (I usually have a hard time reading him but he's town imo), Fireninja (jester claim was way too bold to be an act of mafia) and Kermit (probs town)
So we're sort of left with;
Ness: Oliver, Dolby, Kit, Dad, Toads
Other: F11, Mog, Byngo
I'm pretty sure there would be at least 2 scum in the first pool and maybe 1 in the second pool. Mafia tend not to vote in the same clump
First pool I'm heavily leaning towards Kit because if you go through her post filter everything is pure jibberish and nothing of content fmpov, and with the least posts in the game so far, I guess you could say she's somewhat coasting as well. I can't really tell if she's just bad town at this point especially with her claiming townie for no reason, like you've played at least 10 games by now I'm pretty sure you should know that claiming townie will only give town power roles away so idk what the hell you were thinking when you decided to claim.
Dolby and Dad, I'd be lying if I didn't say I don't really look into their posts bc it's sorta just boring to go over cos arguments between players like them barely indicate alignment cos it's all just long paragraphs with words I have to google bc I don't know the meaning of them. So yeah idk.
Oliver I feel like he's town based on his town, he lowkey seems to know what he's doing so I'm sort of wary but yeah, there isn't much else to say.
Main thing that's in my mind rn is Toads bc I legit have zero clue, for someone who's been scum for like 5 games I would've expected like a yay I'm town! remark bc Toads isn't usually one to keep things to himself imo but honestly I'm probably just being really paranoid. I'm sort of giving him the benefit of the doubt rn cos what are the chances of being scum AGAIN but anything is possible I guess. Can't exactly recall how town Toads plays but I don't really remember hostility as apart of his character, but eh, definitely keeping a close eye on him though.
Now for the second pool, I'm still really undecided on Mog bc I don't know what mafia would even offer to get lynched instead of someone else bc they might be a PR, esp when Mog was in a pretty bad spot at the time. I agree with others though when they say her behaviour seems a bit different but idk that jump in lowkey seems so genuine, esp for someone like her to do so.
[slacking off bc this is draining my effort] There might be scum between f11 and Byngo imo but not both, one of f11's posts that Byngo posted out was pretty weird and f11 susses Byngo so that's some interesting interaction but I'll look at it later.
Also doc save me pls you won't regret it :] Will be on for a few more hours hopefully bc I have english homework to do so feel free to ask me any questions (?), I don't think ppl really townread or scumread me rn so lol
Ness: Oliver, Dolby, Kit, Dad, Amazon, Bianca, Fireninja, Toads
Other: F11, Daniel, Heyden, Mog, Kermit, Kirby, Byngo
And taking out me, Daniel (TP I guess), Bianca (if she's maf she should win tbh), Evan (really really don't think he's maf) and Kirby (I usually have a hard time reading him but he's town imo), Fireninja (jester claim was way too bold to be an act of mafia) and Kermit (probs town)
So we're sort of left with;
Ness: Oliver, Dolby, Kit, Dad, Toads
Other: F11, Mog, Byngo
I'm pretty sure there would be at least 2 scum in the first pool and maybe 1 in the second pool. Mafia tend not to vote in the same clump
First pool I'm heavily leaning towards Kit because if you go through her post filter everything is pure jibberish and nothing of content fmpov, and with the least posts in the game so far, I guess you could say she's somewhat coasting as well. I can't really tell if she's just bad town at this point especially with her claiming townie for no reason, like you've played at least 10 games by now I'm pretty sure you should know that claiming townie will only give town power roles away so idk what the hell you were thinking when you decided to claim.
Dolby and Dad, I'd be lying if I didn't say I don't really look into their posts bc it's sorta just boring to go over cos arguments between players like them barely indicate alignment cos it's all just long paragraphs with words I have to google bc I don't know the meaning of them. So yeah idk.
Oliver I feel like he's town based on his town, he lowkey seems to know what he's doing so I'm sort of wary but yeah, there isn't much else to say.
Main thing that's in my mind rn is Toads bc I legit have zero clue, for someone who's been scum for like 5 games I would've expected like a yay I'm town! remark bc Toads isn't usually one to keep things to himself imo but honestly I'm probably just being really paranoid. I'm sort of giving him the benefit of the doubt rn cos what are the chances of being scum AGAIN but anything is possible I guess. Can't exactly recall how town Toads plays but I don't really remember hostility as apart of his character, but eh, definitely keeping a close eye on him though.
Now for the second pool, I'm still really undecided on Mog bc I don't know what mafia would even offer to get lynched instead of someone else bc they might be a PR, esp when Mog was in a pretty bad spot at the time. I agree with others though when they say her behaviour seems a bit different but idk that jump in lowkey seems so genuine, esp for someone like her to do so.
[slacking off bc this is draining my effort] There might be scum between f11 and Byngo imo but not both, one of f11's posts that Byngo posted out was pretty weird and f11 susses Byngo so that's some interesting interaction but I'll look at it later.
Also doc save me pls you won't regret it :] Will be on for a few more hours hopefully bc I have english homework to do so feel free to ask me any questions (?), I don't think ppl really townread or scumread me rn so lol
A+ post
>Kermit (probs town)
yes ty for ur trust in me
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for ur reference here is the list I've been keeping
NULL
kit
Oliver
Dad
Amazon
Dolby
Byngo
Kirby
PROB SCUM
mog
toads
sad amt of nulls but anyone not there, I relatively townread
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and uh wdym by first sentence of last paragraph
>Kermit (probs town)
yes ty for ur trust in me
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for ur reference here is the list I've been keeping
NULL
kit
Oliver
Dad
Amazon
Dolby
Byngo
Kirby
PROB SCUM
mog
toads
sad amt of nulls but anyone not there, I relatively townread
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and uh wdym by first sentence of last paragraph
Omg after all that fake jester claiming lmao..... i feel dumb but good play ness haha. I'm not sure anything is jumping out at me in terms of voting rn (just a couple of small little things) on my break rn but just wanted to check in with the game since last night
oliversacnl
Senior Member
Ness played me like a fiddle. Damn. What he did was really smart. He even baited me into voting for him, and I completely took the bait, thinking I was above him.
I don't think Bianca is town, actually. She PMd me to talk to me about the general mechanics of the game, and it feels like she's trying to cozy on up to townsfolk since she's mafia.
Plus, her insistence on being town is a little much, sometimes. Actually, all the time.
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Wow. I actually wrote a lot for being on mobile.
I don't think Bianca is town, actually. She PMd me to talk to me about the general mechanics of the game, and it feels like she's trying to cozy on up to townsfolk since she's mafia.
Plus, her insistence on being town is a little much, sometimes. Actually, all the time.
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Wow. I actually wrote a lot for being on mobile.
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
Honestly I don't think mog would do that as scum, she gets too nervous... it sounded genuine too. And I didnt want to be obvious and be like yay finally I'm town, because we will just say you are probably baiting us or something
FireNinja1
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WOOO! Wagonomics! Alright!
it logically makes sense
if I was scum, I wouldn't know Ness is jester, and (usually) scum team will contribute to the bandwagon one way or another
like I highly doubt not a single scum voted for ness
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and eh I'll sleep on my reads bye friends
Geoni
You're doing great!
And if he flips town I'll move on, but I won't let up pressure on somebody I suspect. Pressure is pressure and if you crack you crack. His stupid logic towards me about me being capable of doing something that I wasn't doing at the time, as well as his backpedaling about accusing me of FoSing somebody I wasn't, still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
I don't think we should ignore who voted for who. I voted for Ness because I thought he was either maf or SK and I was close; a third party, but not a SK, still certainly wasn't playing for town anyways. I kept my vote on him however because he just oozed scummy even more than Dolby at the time, while Dolby voted off and on Ness, kinda like 'okay yeah this is going to be the lynch' when he did it the second time.
That's all I really have to read of Dolby for the time being. It is kind of tunneling but I have irl stuff I have happening to me that's far more important than this game, Dolby was my raw scumlean on day 1, and like I said I'm a fresh returner with an objective perspective so I will trust my first impressions the most. I don't like Dolby. I don't like Kirby. I don't like Dan to an extent because we've got a third party flip. Bianca, oliver, f11, Toad, and Evan are townleans still, in that order of most towny to townlean/null. Heydenn, Mog, Byngo, and Kermit are the sliding by although I might be headed in their direction because I care more about irl.
Geoni
You're doing great!
Oh yeah Zendel. Zendel and FireNinja. Both townleans as well.
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And I forgot Kit. I need to reread Kit in particular tbh. I take back my uncertainty on Heydenn for now (a little more townleany), since I've read her post, because I agree with looking in the votes even though it puts me in a bad pool personally.
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And I forgot Kit. I need to reread Kit in particular tbh. I take back my uncertainty on Heydenn for now (a little more townleany), since I've read her post, because I agree with looking in the votes even though it puts me in a bad pool personally.
Geoni
You're doing great!
Yeah PMing people and acting uncertain about the mechanics of the game or other manipulative try-tells are the kinds of things I would do as mafia in a PM game but I don't really see that capability in Bianca, no offense. Still, this is a no-PM game.
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Because people sheep or vote a person they feel certain that town is by majority in agreement over to get a non-maf lynch when they're maf. I just wanna know why you don't realize that because it's a common tactic.
