New censor bypass rule

Hey, I have a tip to stop all of this together.
Just don't swear.
It's not cool or fun, there's other ways to say words and expressions.
I don't know why you would want to swear anyway, this is a forum also for kids and swearing does no good to anyone.
Your opinion on swearing isn't universal, people have varying opinions on it.
 
@LambdaDelta Probably because people didn't get warned back then as they do now??

We've warned for it since TBT was opened over a decade ago. This rule hasn't changed anything. It only clarifies that it's not allowed so people know ahead of time.

It is sort of a new rule or at least a significant change in how it's enforced. Here is the section where the rule is:



I don't know if swearing used to be considered under "obscene content", but there has never been an explicit reference to foul language in general. It seems like the enforcement used to have some common sense and discretion involved by the moderators and now they are switching over to a "zero-tolerance" policy. There is enough bad stuff on this site for the mods to deal with that I think it's silly if they are going to start doing speeding tickets for using a partial version of a swear word.

Again, nothing has been changed. It should have been implied before that a censored word isn't allowed to be posted. The words are censored for a reason. We wrote it into the rules simply because a lot of people have been doing it recently.
 
We wrote it into the rules simply because a lot of people have been doing it recently.

Which means it's not a handful of people ruining everyone else's experiences, but actually a cultural feature of TBT's user base which most people are cool with.
 
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Hey, I have a tip to stop all of this together.
Just don't swear.
It's not cool or fun, there's other ways to say words and expressions.
I don't know why you would want to swear anyway, this is a forum also for kids and swearing does no good to anyone.

don't you Liaming tell me what to do
 
You're telling me people think swearing is cool and fun.
Well whatever is for you.

It's not necessarily "cool" or "fun". It's just that different people like to use different words to describe what they are thinking. Some people prefer to use "feces" and others prefer to use ****. Both words have the same meaning. The beauty is that each person gets to choose which word they want to use (except on this site because the mods have a problem with it).
 
It's not necessarily "cool" or "fun". It's just that different people like to use different words to describe what they are thinking. Some people prefer to use "feces" and others prefer to use ****. Both words have the same meaning. The beauty is that each person gets to choose which word they want to use (except on this site because the mods have a problem with it).

I understand what you're saying. But when society has brought up people with having a certain word being bad/inappropriate, you can't have possible role models for kids or people around younger kids saying this stuff, or else in public if a kid uses these words because they saw someone saying them, that could be terrible, and this forum certainly doesn't want that relaying back to this forum. I think you're all forgetting that Nintendo is the most family friendly dedicated platform and there is a large number of kids coming here.
 
I understand what you're saying. But when society has brought up people with having a certain word being bad/inappropriate, you can't have possible role models for kids or people around younger kids saying this stuff, or else in public if a kid uses these words because they saw someone saying them, that could be terrible, and this forum certainly doesn't want that relaying back to this forum. I think you're all forgetting that Nintendo is the most family friendly dedicated platform and there is a large number of kids coming here.

So kids might learn swear words on this site and then start saying them and that will lead to... what exactly? It is kind of silly that we try to protect kids from "forbidden" words which they eventually end up learning and using every day because they find out that those words aren't so terrible after all and that they don't mean your body is possessed by demons. It is one of the dumbest games mankind has invented that we need to "protect" kids from words which almost every single adult uses even if they don't admit it.
 
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Hey, I have a tip to stop all of this together.
Just don't swear.
It's not cool or fun, there's other ways to say words and expressions.
I don't know why you would want to swear anyway, this is a forum also for kids and swearing does no good to anyone.

The reason why people cuss is because they can't use good enough word to describe what they are thinking or expressions. I cuss when I'm unhappy. I don't do it on this site because I know this site is for kids. Also cussing makes people feel good sometimes (it makes me feel good when I'm unhappy or mad at parents).
 
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So kids might learn swear words on this site and then start saying them and that will lead to... what exactly? It is kind of silly that we try to protect kids from "forbidden" words which they eventually end up learning and using every day because they find out that those words aren't so terrible after all and that they don't mean your body is possessed by demons. It is one of the dumbest games mankind has invented.

The point I made was that this forum doesn't want any of this relaying back to this forum. They can't control what happens in other places, but they can control what happens here. It's the same reason cartoons don't show swear words all the time. It's taboo for kids to be swearing and this forum doesn't want this happening. If you want to swear there are other places to do that, but it's the same reason you don't show porn to kids, they're going to see it one day, but for now they're kids so they don't have to be swearing and doing all this stuff which is taboo and they shouldn't be doing.

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Just let the kids be kids without swearing please
 
The point I made was that this forum doesn't want any of this relaying back to this forum. They can't control what happens in other places, but they can control what happens here. It's the same reason cartoons don't show swear words all the time. It's taboo for kids to be swearing and this forum doesn't want this happening. If you want to swear there are other places to do that, but it's the same reason you don't show porn to kids, they're going to see it one day, but for now they're kids so they don't have to be swearing and doing all this stuff which is taboo and they shouldn't be doing.

I can understand why the admins of this site wouldn't want people's children learning swear words here because that creates controversy. However, there is little rationale for swearing being taboo aside from tradition, and it seems like a lot of TBT's users are the kinds of people who like to challenge traditionalist views. That's one of the reasons why I like this site, and this rule seems to run counter to that. So while I can completely understand why the administrators here would be afraid to rock the boat with traditionalist parents, I'd much rather see them make a stand for the community instead of caving.

I think the connection between swear words and porn is very flimsy. Sexualizing bodies is completely different from teaching words to kids. I'm not at all in favor of allowing sexual content on this site.
 
I can understand why the admins of this site wouldn't want people's children learning swear words here because that creates controversy. However, there is little rationale for swearing being taboo aside from tradition, and it seems like a lot of TBT's users are the kinds of people who like to challenge traditionalist views. That's one of the reasons why I like this site, and this rule seems to run counter to that. So while I can completely understand why the administrators here would be afraid to rock the boat with traditionalist parents, I'd much rather see them make a stand for the community instead of caving.

I think the connection between swear words and porn is very flimsy. Sexualizing bodies is completely different from teaching words to kids. I'm not at all in favor of allowing sexual content on this site.

So are you saying, if a child has parents that are very conservative or traditional then they shouldn't be allowed here? That goes against the family friendly-ness of the forum and that is against what this forum is towards. This forum welcomes everyone and that would be wrong. Once again, as much as you might disagree swearing is very taboo amongst some people.
You might like to swear all you like, but the staff just don't want you doing it here as it is against what most people feel. Kids shouldn't be swearing or doing anything this early on like that, they should be kids and be innocent. Not swearing and things. Jeremy himself said that swearing is against the rules here, and he is the owner, as much as you disagree that is the rules and it's in the benefit of most people, and I don't know why people should be subject to swearing just because you want to express yourself in another way.
 
So are you saying, if a child has parents that are very conservative or traditional then they shouldn't be allowed here? That goes against the family friendly-ness of the forum and that is against what this forum is towards. This forum welcomes everyone and that would be wrong. Once again, as much as you might disagree swearing is very taboo amongst some people.
You might like to swear all you like, but the staff just don't want you doing it here as it is against what most people feel. Kids shouldn't be swearing or doing anything this early on like that, they should be kids and be innocent. Not swearing and things. Jeremy himself said that swearing is against the rules here, and he is the owner, as much as you disagree that is the rules and it's in the benefit of most people, and I don't know why people should be subject to swearing just because you want to express yourself in another way.

If the parents are conservative and traditional, then that's on them; not on us. If a school teaches evolution and the parents don't want their kid attending the school for that reason, does that mean the school is discriminating against the child? No. The parents are just being excessively controlling of their kid. Having rules to cater to those traditionalist beliefs is the opposite of being inclusive.
 
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If the parents are conservative and traditional, then that's on them; not on us. If a school teaches evolution and the parents don't want their kid attending the school for that reason, does that mean the school is discriminating against the child? No. The parents are just being excessively controlling of their kid.

This forum welcomes everyone so it is on this forum, I don't think kids should be subject to swearing and that is an opinion most people have/adults. I have a little brother, I always swear around my friends and joke but I would never do that around my little brother as I am his role model and he shouldn't be swearing at such a young age. Same goes on here, the forum welcomes everyone and that includes kids which is what Nintendo's target age range is towards. We should be good role models to children, not bad ones who swear and subject them to swearing. If you don't want to make your posts suitable for kids to look at and look up to maybe this forum isn't for you as this is partially what it caters for.
 
This forum welcomes everyone so it is on this forum, I don't think kids should be subject to swearing and that is an opinion most people have/adults. I have a little brother, I always swear around my friends and joke but I would never do that around my little brother as I am his role model and he shouldn't be swearing at such a young age. Same goes on here, the forum welcomes everyone and that includes kids which is what Nintendo's target age range is towards. We should be good role models to children, not bad ones who swear and subject them to swearing. If you don't want to make your posts suitable for kids to look at and look up to maybe this forum isn't for you as this is partially what it caters for.

While I understand what you're saying and I don't disagree with the censor, we are not obligated nor "should" we be good role models for children, that's a personal choice.
 
This forum welcomes everyone so it is on this forum, I don't think kids should be subject to swearing and that is an opinion most people have/adults. I have a little brother, I always swear around my friends and joke but I would never do that around my little brother as I am his role model and he shouldn't be swearing at such a young age. Same goes on here, the forum welcomes everyone and that includes kids which is what Nintendo's target age range is towards. We should be good role models to children, not bad ones who swear and subject them to swearing. If you don't want to make your posts suitable for kids to look at and look up to maybe this forum isn't for you as this is partially what it caters for.

But in a way you are trying to say that the forum isn't welcoming of me, and that's the issue. By making rules to include more younger and traditionalist folks, they are kind of telling older and more loose individuals to get lost. I don't know what people here really want, but in the age poll, 73% of people are 16+, so the user base here isn't really full of little kids and has quite a few adults here, so to say that the target audience is young children may not necessarily be true. But if the admins want this site to trend younger and make new rules accordingly, then I probably will leave. It comes down to what the users of this site want it to look like which is why I made this thread. There is no right or wrong audience for this site to target.
 
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While I understand what you're saying and I don't disagree with the censor, we are not obligated nor "should" we be good role models for children, that's a personal choice.

I never said you should be a good role model for children, I said that you shouldn't be a bad role model. From the looks of it, this forum has been friendly since it started, and that's the reason so many people are banned. They are causing a negative experience for other users, and that's why swearing isn't allowed or anything like that, it's because it causing a negative experience for children. I'm not saying anyone should be a good role model, but just not a bad role model.
 
But in a way you are trying to say that the forum isn't welcoming of me, and that's the issue. By making rules to include more younger and traditionalist folks, they are kind of telling older and more loose individuals to get lost. I don't know what people here really want, but in the age poll, 73% of people are 16+, so the user base here isn't really full of little kids and has quite a few adults here, so to say that the target audience is young children may not necessarily be true. But if the admins want this site to trend younger and make new rules accordingly, then I probably will leave.
If you are that offended over not being able to shorten swears to avoid the censor, then perhaps this isn't the community for you. :) To be clear you can swear, it just needs to stay censored. There are ways to get your point across without swearing, if you can't get your point across without swearing then it very likely was not a point worth making. Just because some folks claim to be 16+ in a poll, doesn't mean it's true or that the vast majority of them are even active.
 
But in a way you are trying to say that the forum isn't welcoming of me, and that's the issue. By making rules to include more younger and traditionalist folks, they are kind of telling older and more loose individuals to get lost. I don't know what people here really want, but in the age poll, 73% of people are 16+, so the user base here isn't really full of little kids and has quite a few adults here, so to say that the target audience is young children may not necessarily be true. But if the admins want this site to trend younger and make new rules accordingly, then I probably will leave. It comes down to what the users of this site want it to look like which is why I made this thread. There is no right or wrong audience for this site to target.

Kids under the age 13 are not able to put there age down on it, so how can you say that? None of these rules are new, that's where you're wrong. Jeremy has said its been here for over a decade. There is a right audience, and that is suitable for everyone, and not swearing is suitable for everyone. That's all this forum wants.

Edit: Yeah I was on about non censored swearing, Tom put it better then me.
 
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But in a way you are trying to say that the forum isn't welcoming of me, and that's the issue. By making rules to include more younger and traditionalist folks, they are kind of telling older and more loose individuals to get lost. I don't know what people here really want, but in the age poll, 73% of people are 16+, so the user base here isn't really full of little kids and has quite a few adults here, so to say that the target audience is young children may not necessarily be true. But if the admins want this site to trend younger and make new rules accordingly, then I probably will leave. It comes down to what the users of this site want it to look like which is why I made this thread. There is no right or wrong audience for this site to target.

The rules aren't "telling" anyone to "get lost"? They also aren't necessarily targeting it to younger people, just making it more suitable and inclusive for everybody, regardless of age.

I swear, and I like doing so, specially in writing, but I understand that it is't suitable or wanted in some places, and the mods obviously don't want it here, based on this rule. I really don't see how this is an issue
 
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