Please explain this Nintendo...

[Che5hire Cat]

You'd be surprised with the way some people are. Lol.

Really, that type of behavior is more damaging for a child than anything else. I feel like it sexualizes something that shouldn't be. Probably changes the whole way that a developing child thinks about nudity. But, again...there are plenty of people out there who do act that way.

Oh, I know that there plenty of people out there who would probably hide everything from their children because they think something is "wrong" even if it's not the case. No wonder why so many things getting ruined these days because you have to censor this and censor that just so that nobody gets offended by it, as these people making a such big drama about the most harmless things ever. Reminds me how parents blame GameFreak years ago that Pokemon games would glorified dog fights and how that one legendary Pokemon Darkrai would scare children to death even if there was no proof for both of those accusations whatsoever. It's just silly and kinda sad, but to each their own I guess...

 

[Mairen]

Yeah as a parent to a young child, I think it's far more harmful to freak out about a statue of a man than to just...not make a big deal about it? It's not a statue of anything naughty. Dont give your children weird ideas and teach them to be ashamed of the human body. If you dont make an issue of it, they arent going to either. As their parent, answer any questions they have, and then move on, simple as that. (And if you think them seeing a work of art is going to teach them that it's okay to run around naked or something, I can assure you that Nintendo/Animal crossing isnt the issue).

 

[WaileaNoRei]

I don’t really feel like astrology is a particularly controversial inclusion in the game, as most people even if they don’t personally believe in it, view it as harmless fun (in my experience). And honestly, it is not objectively offensive, harmful, or inappropriate for children, so it seems like a situation where people can ignore the zodiac furniture etc if they want, and enjoy it in the game that that is the solution fairest to the most people. After all, some people do incorporate various forms of fortune telling as part of their belief systems, so it also seems fair for those people to have items that celebrate that.

I do respect that some people have beliefs that very much frown upon things like this, but perhaps it could be a useful teaching moment, like ‘these things exist in the world and some people like them but we don’t believe that is right because...’. Or unfortunately the best decision for you might be to not play the game, and if that is what is best for you then that’s fine. No one has to play, nor to accept a game they find inappropriate. But the only way to make a game that would please everyone would be to make something so bland and empty that no one would want to play.

agree with what everyone has said about the art work. There’s nothing inappropriate for children about one of the most famous works of art in the western world. And I feel the attitude that nudity is more offensive than violence does a lot of damage to our society (in the us at least).
agree with what everyone has said about the art work. There’s nothing inappropriate for children about one of the most famous works of art in the western world. And I feel the attitude that nudity is more offensive than violence does a lot of damage to our society (in the us at least).

I feel the comparison to the exclusion of resetti is a bit spurious, because I think if he was excluded it was not that he was deemed ‘inappropriate’ for kids so much as 1- his role became mostly obsolete due to the auto save feature. 2 - he was not popular with kids and therefore removed, which is very much not the same as being removed because he was inappropriate.

 

[sleepydreepy]

Because David is one of the greatest pieces of art created by one of the greatest artists, Michelangeo.

While I understand each parent raises their children in their own standards and morals, you honestly can not say David is controversial. It is a statue that is supposed to represent life and beauty and skill. It's a part of history that has still influence in a certain way in our(mostly Western) culture today.

Yeah as a parent to a young child, I think it's far more harmful to freak out about a statue of a man than to just...not make a big deal about it? It's not a statue of anything naughty. Dont give your children weird ideas and teach them to be ashamed of the human body. If you dont make an issue of it, they arent going to either. As their parent, answer any questions they have, and then move on, simple as that. (And if you think them seeing a work of art is going to teach them that it's okay to run around naked or something, I can assure you that Nintendo/Animal crossing isnt the issue).

I agree. As I stated in an earlier post I don't think the human body should be sexualized 100% of the time. My mom never "covered my eyes" or anything when she took me to art museums as a young child, and I therefore never thought anything else when looking at art pieces with nudity in it other than "its art." Nude pieces did not have an inappropriate impact on me because I simply perceived them as art.

 

[Manah]

Just in case anyone here wasn't aware, that's the dialogue Redd has for literally everything you choose to look that. It just has unfortunate implications in this one case.

 

[Lake]

My niece, who was 8, would constantly shut off the game without saving. I always had to deal with the consequences. Drove me crazy.

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I agree with you on the tarot and astrology. I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion, but I don't like it. My sister made a very creepy town that has blood and pentagons, murder, etc. I've seen simular ones on you tube as well. I wouldn't want my younger children seeing that either.

I have seen those towns on youtube, also! Definitely not something I want our kids to be exposed to. I think these are issues better left for parents to decide, so better to leave out of a children's game. I dislike having to explain to young children what tarot cards and astrology are and why we avoid them. It's not worth the trouble of having the game, so I'm phasing it out for them. I am still playing (I just avoid that stuff) but it's a definite turn-off for me... kinda ruins the enjoyment for me, so who knows how long I'll continue to play.

Because David is one of the greatest pieces of art created by one of the greatest artists, Michelangeo.

While I understand each parent raises their children in their own standards and morals, you honestly can not say David is controversial. It is a statue that is supposed to represent life and beauty and skill. It's a part of history that has still influence in a certain way in our(mostly Western) culture today.

Resetti is a mole who was kinda rude according to some people and made some kids cry.

I can understand that, but I just don't see it's place in a children's game (with so many other choices out there), especially along with the dialog that was shown further up in the thread... that's where it goes way too far.

Anyway, I know a lot of you might not agree with me... just my thoughts. Hope everyone has a wonderful day.

 

[WaileaNoRei]

Yeah as a parent to a young child, I think it's far more harmful to freak out about a statue of a man than to just...not make a big deal about it? It's not a statue of anything naughty. Dont give your children weird ideas and teach them to be ashamed of the human body. If you dont make an issue of it, they arent going to either. As their parent, answer any questions they have, and then move on, simple as that. (And if you think them seeing a work of art is going to teach them that it's okay to run around naked or something, I can assure you that Nintendo/Animal crossing isnt the issue).

I agree with this, and it is something I hope to try and model for my own daughter! Giving children the knowledge they need to navigate the world in a confident and prepared way.

treating the body as shameful endangers children more than it protects them, imo.

still remember as a kid seeing parents freaking out about a 2 year old girl going shirtless at the pool...such unnecessary panic over a literal baby’s nudity, ‘because girls’ have to wear shirts’

 

[sleepydreepy]

I have seen those towns on youtube, also! Definitely not something I want our kids to be exposed to. I think these are issues better left for parents to decide, so better to leave out of a children's game. I dislike having to explain to young children what tarot cards and astrology are and why we avoid them. It's not worth the trouble of having the game, so I'm phasing it out for them. I am still playing (I just avoid that stuff) but it's a definite turn-off for me... kinda ruins the enjoyment for me, so who knows how long I'll continue to play.

I can understand that, but I just don't see it's place in a children's game, especially along with the dialog that was shown further up in the thread... that's where it goes way too far.

Anyway, I know a lot of you might not agree with me... just my thoughts. Hope everyone has a wonderful day.

I respect your opinion of not wanted to expose your kids to tarot cards, I agree that is a personal choice, but I don't think the game explicitly mentions the words "tarot cards"? Unless are you talking about the fortune telling set?

As for astrology, I think ACNH deals with it from a historic point of view. Celeste (the owl) will tell you the Greek myths concerning various constellations, but the game does not explicitly tell you your horoscope, or even mentions that the stars can tell you your future/fortune, or anything.

 

[tessa grace]

I do miss resetti and nintendo's logic is a little broken. I particularly enjoyed it when Resetti came because I thought it was funny, but if younger kids are afraid, I understand why they removed him. I don't think that it was the reason they removed Resetti, I think they just wanted to use autosave and they didn't have another reason to put him in the game. I agree with most of the people on here, but I do understand if you don't want your children to see this. I first started playing New Leaf when I was 7 or 8 and I saw this and was unmoved. I guess I was just taught that it doesn't really matter because the game isn't sexualizing the statue. They are literally treating it the same they treated every other piece of art. I think this maybe should be a warning in the game before you buy it, but it's the least of my concern, especially since it's beautiful art created by a very famous artist, Michelangelo.

 

[meggiewes]

I have seen those towns on youtube, also! Definitely not something I want our kids to be exposed to. I think these are issues better left for parents to decide, so better to leave out of a children's game. I dislike having to explain to young children what tarot cards and astrology are and why we avoid them. It's not worth the trouble of having the game, so I'm phasing it out for them. I am still playing (I just avoid that stuff) but it's a definite turn-off for me... kinda ruins the enjoyment for me, so who knows how long I'll continue to play.



I can understand that, but I just don't see it's place in a children's game, especially along with the dialog that was shown further up in the thread... that's where it goes way too far.

Anyway, I know a lot of you might not agree with me... just my thoughts. Hope everyone has a wonderful day.

But, some of us (ok, mostly me) are asking why and would sincerely want to know why you think it is inappropriate for a children's game with how it is presented in the game itself.

I can sorta understand nudity with David and the tarot card thing (even if I don't necessarily agree, but I can totally respect it). What I don't understand is the astrology part. It is presented as constellation names and you only get the myths if you bring the star fragments or furniture series to Celeste to have her tell you about them. And I dont think most people (especially kids) would even think to do that. I only found out you get that dialogue because someone else posted about it here.

I just wanted to know why in your opinion myths and white and gold furniture shaped like animals are not ok for children. I want to understand how other people think so I can cultivate my compassion for others.

I'm sorry if I offended earlier. Feel free to DM me with a response or just ignore me.

 

[Lake]

Yeah as a parent to a young child, I think it's far more harmful to freak out about a statue of a man than to just...not make a big deal about it? It's not a statue of anything naughty. Dont give your children weird ideas and teach them to be ashamed of the human body. If you dont make an issue of it, they arent going to either. As their parent, answer any questions they have, and then move on, simple as that. (And if you think them seeing a work of art is going to teach them that it's okay to run around naked or something, I can assure you that Nintendo/Animal crossing isnt the issue).

I don't understand why you are accusing me of such things. I haven't freaked out about it, given my children weird ideas, or taught them to be ashamed of the human body... I haven't even commented on the statue in my household. I just don't find it (along with the dialogue) appropriate. That combined with the other content I don't like has just made me decide to not sink more money into AC products. I should be able to express my opinion on here just like everyone else without the accusations.

 

[6iixx]

redd says that to everything when you go to inspect something you purchase from him, regardless if it's a painting, statue, etc., and has nudity or not. hope that clears up some confusion for you, @Lake , that that specific response wasn't just to that statue in question.

 

[sleepydreepy]

If anything is awkward about the statue, it's Redd's dialogue.

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@Lake This is a common piece of dialogue that Redd says about multiple art pieces, not just this one. I'm guessing the reason why they chose this line for this statue/why he is "awkward" is because this is a fake gallant statue.

 

[elphieluvr]

Inappropriate isn’t really the right word for Resetti. He‘s traumatizing to extremely sensitive children because he’s extremely caustic. That being said, I was a very sensitive child who always loved Resetti for being a jerk. And I‘m not sure that removing him from the game over parent complaints was the right decision, but hey, Resetti will always be there for me in all my older games.

not even gonna comment on the David lol. I’m not getting into that and everyone else seems to have it covered (pun and censorship not intended).

 

[Lake]

But, some of us (ok, mostly me) are asking why and would sincerely want to know why you think it is inappropriate for a children's game with how it is presented in the game itself.

I can sorta understand nudity with David and the tarot card thing (even if I don't necessarily agree, but I can totally respect it). What I don't understand is the astrology part. It is presented as constellation names and you only get the myths if you bring the star fragments or furniture series to Celeste to have her tell you about them. And I dont think most people (especially kids) would even think to do that. I only found out you get that dialogue because someone else posted about it here.

I just wanted to know why in your opinion myths and white and gold furniture shaped like animals are not ok for children. I want to understand how other people think so I can cultivate my compassion for others.

I'm sorry if I offended earlier. Feel free to DM me with a response or just ignore me.

Hi, sure I can explain. Astrology/zodiac/fortune telling/tarot cards are all against our religious beliefs, so I don't like all that stuff in a children's game. The furniture you mentioned is Zodiac furniture. Since we already own the game, I told the kids to avoid this stuff. I won't buy any more in the future. Did I answer your question? I hope I did! And thank you for your kind response. I feel like I'm getting the heat from others on here just because I have different beliefs.

 

[Airysuit]

I can understand that, but I just don't see it's place in a children's game (with so many other choices out there), especially along with the dialog that was shown further up in the thread... that's where it goes way too far.

Let's agree to disagree.

However, regarding mentioned quote of dialog. That has been taken out of context. Redd (as a NPC) has a certain amount of lines he recycles with multiple pieces of art. I saw him making the same remark regarding the Starry Night, Mona Lisa and the Nike statue etc.
People's own interpretation of that line is their own business, but the dialog in itself is completely harmless...

Edit: Also. Sure, people are free to state their opinion. But other people are also free to state contradictory opinions. In my opinion at least.
I'm not judging you for your beliefs or opinions, I get where you are coming from. I just disagree.
Your argument about the dialog is just doesnt seem fair imo.

 

[meggiewes]

Hi, sure I can explain. Astrology/zodiac/fortune telling/tarot cards are all against our religious beliefs, so I don't like all that stuff in a children's game. The furniture you mentioned is Zodiac furniture. Since we already own the game, I told the kids to avoid this stuff. I won't buy any more in the future. Did I answer your question? I hope I did! And thank you for your kind response. I feel like I'm getting the heat from others on here just because I have different beliefs.

Thank you so much for answering me! I know logically you answered me, but I do not understand why it is against your religious beliefs. Do you mind if I DM you when I have some more free time so that you can help me understand better? Mostly because I feel like I am getting a teensy bit off topic now. Whoops! (I'm always a troublemaker here )

 

[Barney]

Meh.

The first time he saw the statue, my three-year-old son just asked me 'where are his clothes?' and I told him he didn't have any.

Conversation over.

He doesn't seem scarred for life by the experience.

The only things which have upset him in this game so far are getting stung by wasps and falling into a pit-fall hole.

 

[Lake]

I respect your opinion of not wanted to expose your kids to tarot cards, I agree that is a personal choice, but I don't think the game explicitly mentions the words "tarot cards"? Unless are you talking about the fortune telling set?

As for astrology, I think ACNH deals with it from a historic point of view. Celeste (the owl) will tell you the Greek myths concerning various constellations, but the game does not explicitly tell you your horoscope, or even mentions that the stars can tell you your future/fortune, or anything.

Yes, the fortune telling set. It has a crystal ball, candles, and tarot cards if I'm remembering correctly.

Thank you so much for answering me! I know logically you answered me, but I do not understand why it is against your religious beliefs. Do you mind if I DM you when I have some more free time so that you can help me understand better? Mostly because I feel like I am getting a teensy bit off topic now. Whoops! (I'm always a troublemaker here )

Yes, you can! In a nutshell, we aren't to have anything to do with fortune-telling, psychics, etc. But I can absolutely answer in more detail if you want to message me... I'm not sure if we are too far off-topic for the thread? Either way is fine with me! You aren't a trouble-maker!

 

[meo]

I guess I don't really get the aspect of trying to leave out "controversial" things which mainly come down to actually being different customs/practices/beliefs...
Animal Crossing has always to an extent explored and tried to provide aspects of different cultures and beliefs. If we're going to really try to say astrology should have been left out then by that token...all the holidays, culturally significant items, and majority of clothing should be removed...as well as gulliver.

Naturally that would be silly and then you wouldn't even have a game at all. Not to be disrespectful, but I think worrying more about censoring other people's beliefs that don't match your own is worse...than simply just choosing not to utilize or play with those items/features. Nothing forces you to use the astrology items or even take part with Katrina (whom isn't even currently in the game). If you have kids, I would hope you'd support having an open dialogue on those items and researching what they really mean for different cultures/belief systems...because you can learn about something and discuss it but still have the autonomy to believe and do something different.