Please explain this Nintendo...

[MayorofMapleton]

i think the point of resetti was to teach kids to follow instructions, show that their actions can have consequences, and point out how real life isn't a game -- you can't reset, so try to make the most of it and not screw it up. i played wild world for the first time when i was 6/7, and he never bothered me, personally, in any game. he was much more mellow in NL, too, and his brother was even more so. do i think having him literally scream at kids was a good idea? no, not really, but the intention behind the character was good and the lessons he was supposed to teach were quite important/meaningful, so i would've preferred it if they'd just made him nicer instead of removing him altogether. (i know he's supposedly the rescue service responder, but.)

Exactly,


As for Michelangelo's David, its an historical piece of artwork, nothing sexual about it. Kids can do themselves some good learning art history and history in general. As well as just the human form when appropriate, so they aren't ignorant to their own bodies as they grow and don't just sexualize others'.

 

[sleepydreepy]

Yes, the fortune telling set. It has a crystal ball, candles, and tarot cards if I'm remembering correctly.

Ah ok I can understand that then. However I still personally feel like the zodiac furniture items/star fragments in ACNH are presented from a historical point of view (Greek Mythology), and does not encourage players to seek out their horoscopes, and neither does it explicitly mention "horoscopes" at all. I don't believe in fortune-telling either due to my religion, but I still appreciate and admire Greek mythology since it had such an impact on society back then and today (with classic art and literature pieces such as The Odyssey).

 

[Lake]

Let's agree to disagree.

However, regarding mentioned quote of dialog. That has been taken out of context. Redd (as a NPC) has a certain amount of lines he recycles with multiple pieces of art. I saw him making the same remark regarding the Starry Night, Mona Lisa and the Nike statue etc.
People's own interpretation of that line is their own business, but the dialog in itself is completely harmless...

Edit: Also. Sure, people are free to state their opinion. But other people are also free to state contradictory opinions. In my opinion at least.
I'm not judging you for your beliefs or opinions, I get where you are coming from. I just disagree.
Your argument about the dialog is just doesnt seem fair imo.

I agree with that, but someone further upthread made statements saying those who did not like it were freaking out and teaching their children to be ashamed of the human body, etc... a strawman argument that's completely untrue and unnecessary.

As far as the dialog, it just seems like the makers of the game should have considered that when they created the game (which I'm sure they did).

 

[Angelbearpuppy]

I just think everyone should use their best opinion. You dont have to participate with that charater or item to play the game. Also with a game where you can customize patterns and place them anywhere. There would still be people figuring out ways to do weird spooky or disturbing things. Even without the items. I personally think depending on their age a cobcersation on how and why, is better and allows them to grow. For younger kids just answer appopriate to their age.

I get sheltering children, but at some point they will be face with something or learb something or see sonething we cant control, id rather help lay a good foundation for good decisions.

That's just myn2 cents on fortune telling ect.....afternall they will study Greek mythology in school.

Same with different art work

 

[Lake]

I guess I don't really get the aspect of trying to leave out "controversial" things which mainly come down to actually being different customs/practices/beliefs...
Animal Crossing has always to an extent explored and tried to provide aspects of different cultures and beliefs. If we're going to really try to say astrology should have been left out then by that token...all the holidays, culturally significant items, and majority of clothing should be removed...as well as gulliver.

Naturally that would be silly and then you wouldn't even have a game at all. Not to be disrespectful, but I think worrying more about censoring other people's beliefs that don't match your own is worse...than simply just choosing not to utilize or play with those items/features. Nothing forces you to use the astrology items or even take part with Katrina (whom isn't even currently in the game). If you have kids, I would hope you'd support having an open dialogue on those items and researching what they really mean for different cultures/belief systems...because you can learn about something and discuss it but still have the autonomy to believe and do something different.

That's how I've dealt with it because we already own the game. I explained that in life there are things out there that are against our religious beliefs and we have choices to make. I just didn't like that I had to start explaining what tarot cards and crystal balls are to our younger children... I just like kids to be kids.

 

[Airysuit]

I agree with that, but someone further upthread made statements saying those who did not like it were freaking out and teaching their children to be ashamed of the human body, etc... a strawman argument that's completely untrue and unnecessary.

As far as the dialog, it just seems like the makers of the game should have considered that when they created the game (which I'm sure they did).

I agree with you that you are definitely not overreacting, and if someone said something along those lines I think that is really unfair.

The game is originally made and written in Japanese, and the translators had to do a lot of specific translations. However, some dialogs regarding default statements as such as this quote (assuming it's a default dialog), are probably translated to fit a large number of items (art in this case). Within that context, I'm sure the translators wouldn't think of it as ambiguous dialog, since they don't directly associate it with "male nudity". However i can understand how some people think of that as an oversight.

But again, if you see David as "male nudity" I personally think you're missing the point of art in this game, and probably in life too. Which is a shame imo

 

[Lake]

Ah ok I can understand that then. However I still personally feel like the zodiac furniture items/star fragments in ACNH are presented from a historical point of view (Greek Mythology), and does not encourage players to seek out their horoscopes, and neither does it explicitly mention "horoscopes" at all. I don't believe in fortune-telling either due to my religion, but I still appreciate and admire Greek mythology since it had such an impact on society back then and today (with classic art and literature pieces such as The Odyssey).

That reminded me... Isabelle mentions her horoscope in some of the daily announcements... all of it combined just turns me off the game. I avoid it as much as I can, but I don't see myself being a long-term player. I actually played AC City Folk and didn't like some of the content in that game, so I didn't play the next AC games that came out. I read some reviews about this one and thought it didn't have any of that type of thing, so I bought it, and found out otherwise.

 

[Mairen]

I don't understand why you are accusing me of such things. I haven't freaked out about it, given my children weird ideas, or taught them to be ashamed of the human body... I haven't even commented on the statue in my household. I just don't find it (along with the dialogue) appropriate. That combined with the other content I don't like has just made me decide to not sink more money into AC products. I should be able to express my opinion on here just like everyone else without the accusations.

Yikes! I'm not sure where your name was mentioned in my post (I honestly went back to check thinking some weird typo was made) but I can assure you I made that post only as a sharing of my own opinion here. I only skimmed through everyone else's replies before making my own. My thoughts there were in no way directed to anyone personally, and I'm truly sorry you felt that way. I absolutely agree everyone is free to have their own opinions (and even encourage it, it makes for healthy conversation!)If I'm ever replying or speaking to anyone in particular, I'm always sure to quote them (like now).

 

[WaileaNoRei]

That's how I've dealt with it because we already own the game. I explained that in life there are things out there that are against our religious beliefs and we have choices to make. I just didn't like that I had to start explaining what tarot cards and crystal balls are to our younger children... I just like kids to be kids.

Respectfully, I feel that there may be kids out there to whom tarot cards and crystal balls are meaningful, or at least represent magic and fun, and it is hard to say that some children’s/ parents beliefs and opinions should be privileged over others. I guess that is my only problem with the idea it is unfair to have these things in the game.

I think it is very reasonable to decide the game may not be for you, but does not represent a flaw in the game design or content. No game can please everyone. (I know you did not necessarily suggest the game was flawed for anyone but you, I’m just making a broader point here)

I guess I don't really get the aspect of trying to leave out "controversial" things which mainly come down to actually being different customs/practices/beliefs...
Animal Crossing has always to an extent explored and tried to provide aspects of different cultures and beliefs. If we're going to really try to say astrology should have been left out then by that token...all the holidays, culturally significant items, and majority of clothing should be removed...as well as gulliver.

Naturally that would be silly and then you wouldn't even have a game at all. Not to be disrespectful, but I think worrying more about censoring other people's beliefs that don't match your own is worse...than simply just choosing not to utilize or play with those items/features. Nothing forces you to use the astrology items or even take part with Katrina (whom isn't even currently in the game). If you have kids, I would hope you'd support having an open dialogue on those items and researching what they really mean for different cultures/belief systems...because you can learn about something and discuss it but still have the autonomy to believe and do something different.

Basically this. if someone wants to decide the content of the game should reflect their own personal beliefs , that seems unreasonable/ unfair (particularly for a game made by a different culture), and if someone decide it should not contain any cultural items to avoid potentially violating religious beliefs, I think you end up with an empty, boring, and unrelatable game.

Everyone has the right to their beliefs, which means we will all encounter things we dislike and disagree with sometimes, it’s just part of being human and living in a free world.

Meh.

The first time he saw the statue, my three-year-old son just asked me 'where are his clothes?' and I told him he didn't have any.

Conversation over.

He doesn't seem scarred for life by the experience.

The only things which have upset him in this game so far are getting stung by wasps and falling into a pit-fall hole.

Your son is very sensible! Those are murder hornets

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Thank you everyone for this very respectful dialogue. These kinds of issues with beliefs and censorship and what is ‘appropriate’ for children are really interesting and important to me, and I love the chance to have actual, healthy debate.

 

[sleepydreepy]

That reminded me... Isabelle mentions her horoscope in some of the daily announcements... all of it combined just turns me off the game. I avoid it as much as I can, but I don't see myself being a long-term player. I actually played AC City Folk and didn't like some of the content in that game, so I didn't play the next AC games that came out. I read some reviews about this one and thought it didn't have any of that type of thing, so I bought it, and found out otherwise.

Right, but if Isabelle wants to read her horoscope, isn't that her personal choice too? She does not encourage players to do the same, and only states that she herself has read it. But regardless, I respect your right to your own opinion.

 

[John Wick]

David has nothing to brag about.

Tis barely visible to the naked eye.

Pun intended. ^_^

 

[Belle T]

Nintendo didn't remove Resetti because he was inappropriate for children; he was removed because he outlived his usefulness now that the games automatically save. He was toned down in a lot of his later appearances, but that's because audiences responded negatively to his hostility. So it's an apple and oranges comparison.

I did find it humorous to poke fun at the idea that this is technically the only Nintendo game with uh... male nether regions. But I also think it's a little bit silly to be sincerely offended at this art piece that children will likely come into contact with by merely existing. I mean...

Even when this episode aired almost 20 years ago now, they were extremely tongue-in-cheek about the fact that it needed to be censored.

 

[AssassinVicz]

Honestly the statue makes me a little weird about it? They could have censored it or smoothed it out, so it wouldn't show anything at all.
Plus Redd's dialouge, even if its for everything.. lil bit awkward-

But its nothing serious or would affect me from playing the game. I buy it once, it goes into the museum and I forget about it.
(Plus im sure some people could laugh about it and find some sort of humor because its there.)
I mean the art gallery/museum aspect of the game is completely optional, much like anything in the game. You do it if you want to or you just don't. So for those that it does 'affect', you can simply avoid it.

As for resetti, i've seen alot of article of children being 'afraid' of him, but that was never the case for me tbh. I had wild world when I was young and I never found him scary. I just honestly found him annoying since when you hit the final dialogue, you had to repeatedly type in messages. New Leaf made that easier and New Horizon's just cut him out entirely so... idk. Maybe he went past his use or maybe it was appease the children he was 'scarying'

 

[John Wick]

Ah ok I can understand that then. However I still personally feel like the zodiac furniture items/star fragments in ACNH are presented from a historical point of view (Greek Mythology), and does not encourage players to seek out their horoscopes, and neither does it explicitly mention "horoscopes" at all. I don't believe in fortune-telling either due to my religion, but I still appreciate and admire Greek mythology since it had such an impact on society back then and today (with classic art and literature pieces such as The Odyssey).

I'd like more occult items, as I studied it for years. ^_^

 

[LambdaDelta]

I judge people based on how they react to nonsexual nudity

 

[Angelbearpuppy]

I think it really comes down to, what the individual wants to make of a situation as well. But for me, I think it is such a small minor thing.

 

[Uffe]

I see nothing wrong with it. Nudity is normal.

 

[-Blue-]

lol I think the OP was just jesting. I do miss Resetti though. He does need to come back in some form.

 

[watercolorwish]

like a lot of others are saying, its just a historical work of art not meant to be sexualized. if you’re sexualizing, well idk what to tell you. its a you problem lol. If anything its humorous because of how out of place it is in the game. And I think that makes it charming. And Resetti will come back one day just wait

 

[coldpotato]

I definitely don't see anything wrong with the statue, it's actually kind of funny to me because of how out of place it looks in the game.
Resetti was mean in a hilarious way. He had a good heart and moved on to the rescue services most likely because of his high blood pressure. I respect the story they gave him but I do miss him. I hope he gets some sort of event in the future, since technically he is in new horizons, we just don't get to see him in all his glory.

Also I love the tarot cards and astrology items and am very happy they have them in game.
I think it's awesome that kids can discover these items in a game like animal crossing, even if it's against their parents religion. It opens them up to different things and keeps them less sheltered.