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I'll elaborate - bans should exist to promote versatility. The reason legendaries (and more broadly speaking, ubers) are banned is because they are so powerful that everyone is forced to use them to remain competitive. This kills versatility and you end up with a very stale metagame.

Megas do not suffer this problem. They're not overly powerful and you're limited to one. Megas also promote versatility as they have different stats, abilities and in many cases, typing. For example, in a game vs. ForgottenT, he mega evolved his gengar, thereby losing levitate. Where earthquake wasn't a problem for normal Gengars poison typing with levitate, now he has a new weakness. With my Garchomp still alive, this makes the decision to mega evolve less clear cut.

All in all, I think banning Megas is a bad idea and I'd just like to know why the rule is there. Even if it's a simple "this tournament will be mega free" then that's fine. I'm just worried it's out of some misinformed concern that they're like legendaries.
 
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KarlaKGB said:
I'll elaborate - bans should exist to promote versatility. The reason legendaries (and more broadly speaking, ubers) are banned is because they are so powerful that everyone is forced to use them to remain competitive. This kills versatility and you end up with a very stale metagame.

Megas do not suffer this problem. They're not overly powerful and you're limited to one. Megas also promote versatility as they have different stats, abilities and in many cases, typing. For example, in a game vs. ForgottenT, he mega evolved his gengar, thereby losing levitate. Where earthquake wasn't a problem for normal Gengars poison typing with levitate, now he has a new weakness. With my Garchomp still alive, this makes the decision to mega evolve less clear cut.

All in all, I think banning Megas is a bad idea and I'd just like to know why the rule is there. Even if it's a simple "this tournament will be mega free" then that's fine. I'm just worried it's out of some misinformed concern that they're like legendaries.
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Your concern is unnecessary then. Thecreeperhugz already knows mega evolved Pokemon are nothing like legendaries, and that they are two separate things. That's like when you said I don't need to worry about people knowing what mega evolution is. You're telling me not to worry and then saying you need to worry so that things must change. I somewhat agree with your point, but let's see what TCH says.
 
KarlaKGB said:
All in all, I think banning Megas is a bad idea and I'd just like to know why the rule is there. Even if it's a simple "this tournament will be mega free" then that's fine. I'm just worried it's out of some misinformed concern that they're like legendaries.
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While I do not have the authority to clear this up, I would like to to point a few things out.
Your previous point that mega evolution is situational as shown by your example is certainly agreeable, but it needs to be noted that some mega evolutions not only rival legendaries in strength, but also surpass many of them.

Let's talk Mega-Tyranitar. It has a grand BST of 700, which is only rivaled by Mega-Garchomp who ties with it, and Arceus, who surpasses his by 20 points. But this is without the Special Defense boost coming from Sandstorm - If that were to to come into the calculation it would reach an astounding BST of 760 with an overwhelming defensive power of 100/150/180 and offensives of 164/95/71 combined with impressive moves such as Dragondance which it can easily setup and at the same time alienates his speed issue, Stealth Rock to cripple enemy fire types, Pursuit to trap everything that feels like switching and all elemental fangs bar poison. Just to give you an example, Careful T-Tar with decent investments can withstand both Mega Gengars and Mega Alakazams 4x effective Focus Blast and OHKO in turn either with Crunch or +1 Pursuit (SR and prior damage not taken into account). While the same could be said about Assault Vest T-Tar, this variant loses access to vital moves and retains allmost all of its flaws while taunting itself.

I'm personally undecided on the issue of mega evolutions in this tournament, but such deciding factors need to be taken into account. And Tyranitar is just an example - Tailwind boosted M-Garchomp and SD/Protect M-Blaziken are equally scary on the offensive side of things. The latter is one of the main reasons so many people are running Talonflame for its strong priority in 3v3 - Because if you let it set up and don't have access to something faster, all you can do is hope for a HJK miss. Limiting mega evolutions to one per team certainly helps, but you might as well carry a random legendary instead.

This is, of course, not taking weaker Megas into account that desperately needed their stronger form to be competitively viable. But because of the aforementioned limitations, there honestly is little point in using most of them when there are better options to be considered.
 
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hi ^^ got some questions.

1) why do we have to post our teams? i dont see anything wrong with changing them, or even concealing a team.

2) i kinda want to know why mevo stones are banned, from the OPs perspective.
 
Farobi said:
hi ^^ got some questions.

1) why do we have to post our teams? i dont see anything wrong with changing them, or even concealing a team.

2) i kinda want to know why mevo stones are banned, from the OPs perspective.
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Being locked into a team for a tournament is pretty standard, it's to stop people from altering their team to try and specifically counter their opponent's. A good team should be versatile and be capable of dealing with nearly everything. As teams are locked, concealing them seems rather pointless.

I'm also waiting for a response regarding Mega evos, as the past two pages of this thread have shown.
 
So I assume its going to go as follows:

1. add the friend code of who you are set again.
2. battle.
3. post/PM results?


Will you post rules for battles too (like Standard vs whatever) cause I'm paranoid that some people won't set the battles correctly and I'm not even confident I can myself.
 
Wow, there's always a massive debate going on when I'm not here...

Farobi said:
hi ^^ got some questions.

1) why do we have to post our teams? i dont see anything wrong with changing them, or even concealing a team.

2) i kinda want to know why mevo stones are banned, from the OPs perspective.
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1- if teams aren't posted, then people could vhange their team to counter their oppenent each round.
2- I just think that having mega evolutions would be a bit too much. I know they aren't uber powerful, but in the right situation they could make or break a match. This was origionally just supposed to be a small competition and has turned into this, which is hard enough to manage without added chaos of messing with megas and legendaries etc

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Silversea said:
So I assume its going to go as follows:

1. add the friend code of who you are set again.
2. battle.
3. post/PM results?


Will you post rules for battles too (like Standard vs whatever) cause I'm paranoid that some people won't set the battles correctly and I'm not even confident I can myself.
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Pretty much, although I think a good idea would be to save the battle on the vs recorder so I can watch your battle, to prevent cheating.
At somepoint i will post a mini walkthrough of how to set up the matches, so everyone knows what options to click
 
I have a question:
Can or can you not currently register for participating in this? I've heard there is something you cant register for, but I dont know what.
 
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Animedan said:
I have a question:
Can or can you not currently register for participating in this? I've heard there is something you cant register for, but I dont know what.
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Signups closed a while ago, but you may be able to sign up as a replacement. I predict a number of people are going to drop out, so you may well get in.

This is also nothing to do with the Bell Tree league announced in the latest Belltree Direct.
 
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Animedan said:
I have a question:
Can or can you not currently register for participating in this? I've heard there is something you cant register for, but I dont know what.
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Signups are technically closed, but you may sign up as a reserve

A few people have already dropped out, so we need people to fill their spots
 
urgh i dont think i even started working on training my mons yet. i have 4 days of free time starting from tomorrow so i hope i can squeeze some time training and whatnot.
 
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