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She didn't do anything really bad but ignore you and contributing to help??
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Question about behavoir of AC:NL community
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Moon Dreamer
Wish Granter
island games are random at best and my own island didn't have the gardening tour today and this other person did, i wanted to take advantage of this game while i still could. believe me if my own island had it today i wouldn't be looking all over wifi for someone with an island that was offering this mini game
MotownMurder
Senior Member
I don't suppose you were going to pay this person for being so incredibly generous with their time to let you collect 10,000 flowers?
Moon Dreamer
Wish Granter
no because its insane to expect to get it all in one sitting
MotownMurder
Senior Member
Obviously. It would probably take the entire day...which makes me wonder why you even shot for such a high number.
Moon Dreamer
Wish Granter
its an estimate it doesn't mean that it will take that many flowers to do what im planning to do
oath2order
#Porygon2024
lilworros: They don't need to tell you. It's polite behavior, and something I'm sure most people would do, but it's not an absolute necessity. In addition, as it is just the island, I personally would be a little more lax as to what goes on over there. Finally, I would also recommend giving warning, like "Tell me what you're doing or Wi-Fi goes off" or something similar. I'm not saying what you did was wrong, it was totally justified, but I'm just saying what you could do to make it better, and make it so that this doesn't have to happen again 
Also, it appears Moon Dreamer was getting the Red Tulips from tours. That doesn't affect your town >.>
Moon Dreamer: Thank you for posting the Skype chat log. It clears up a lot of things. It, and your responses show the rest of us that you are in the wrong. Like I said earlier, it isn't a necessity to tell someone what you're doing, but you can't expect people you Wi-Fi with to be comfortable with you not saying what you're doing. lilworros has all the right in the world to ask what you're doing. You are in her town, in her personal space, from her invitation. As such, you are required to follow her rules, or, as seen from her actions, you forfeit any right to be in her town.
Also, it appears Moon Dreamer was getting the Red Tulips from tours. That doesn't affect your town >.>Moon Dreamer: Thank you for posting the Skype chat log. It clears up a lot of things. It, and your responses show the rest of us that you are in the wrong. Like I said earlier, it isn't a necessity to tell someone what you're doing, but you can't expect people you Wi-Fi with to be comfortable with you not saying what you're doing. lilworros has all the right in the world to ask what you're doing. You are in her town, in her personal space, from her invitation. As such, you are required to follow her rules, or, as seen from her actions, you forfeit any right to be in her town.
insaneluzer
Nooklings Shopaholic
I find this particular kind of interaction interesting. From where I stand, it doesn't look like either party were in the wrong, there was just an unfortunate lack of communication. But I do a lot of online gaming so behaviors like Moon Dreamer's come as no shock to me.
Moon Dreamer
Wish Granter
1. she had no reason to ask what i was doing, the flowers weren't from her town so she had no reason to even carelilworros: They don't need to tell you. It's polite behavior, and something I'm sure most people would do, but it's not an absolute necessity. In addition, as it is just the island, I personally would be a little more lax as to what goes on over there. Finally, I would also recommend giving warning, like "Tell me what you're doing or Wi-Fi goes off" or something similar. I'm not saying what you did was wrong, it was totally justified, but I'm just saying what you could do to make it better, and make it so that this doesn't have to happen again
Moon Dreamer: Thank you for posting the Skype chat log. It clears up a lot of things. It, and your responses show the rest of us that you are in the wrong. Like I said earlier, it isn't a necessity to tell someone what you're doing, but you can't expect people you Wi-Fi with to be comfortable with you not saying what you're doing. lilworros has all the right in the world to ask what you're doing. You are in her town, in her personal space, from her invitation. As such, you are required to follow her rules, or, as seen from her actions, you forfeit any right to be in her town.
2. just like she has the right to be all chatty and obnoxious i have the right to ignore her and go on with my usual routine of being quiet
3. if she wants to whine and moan about not telling her every single thing im doing then fine there are more quieter players out there than her, i don't like chatter boxes and its well known in my family that i don't like to be talkative
oath2order
#Porygon2024
She let you in her town, to her island. It's still her personal space. Just because they weren't from her town doesn't mean you don't have to listen.
Nobody is saying you have to be talkative. All we're saying is let people know what you're doing. It's suspicious if you go around being all quiet. Communication skills would benefit both sides in this.
bittermeat
Senior Member
Don't let one bad apple change your mind about this forum. Almost, if not, all of the people I've played with were considerate and friendly.
Moon Dreamer
Wish Granter
that would have merit if i cared to let people know every step i take in their towns, in games communication is a waste of time. you don't go on multiplayer to talk your head off, you go on m/p because you're bored and need to view different shops and sights
oath2order
#Porygon2024
Maybe you. Other people play multiplayer to talk.
As I can see you are not going to listen to anybody, I am going to suggest that everybody goes their own separate ways. I would also strongly advise anybody in the future to not Wi-Fi with Moon Dreamer, if you enjoy conversation.
insaneluzer
Nooklings Shopaholic
Moon Dreamer: I think the users of these forums are hoping that the multiplayer experience on this game will be different. In general, if you get your online friends from a forum website rather than from social networking or real life friends (or something), the people you'll try to play with will prefer a more structured, communication-friendly approach to online gaming.
Moon Dreamer:
Keeping the your personal plans is fine and all, but I do believe you should have been up front with OP about your intentions. Something like "Hey, you have gardening tours? I really need 10,000+ tulips for something I'm working on. Can I come over and use your Island?" would have been much more polite than just going over and taking the tulips. I feel that OP decided to cut things off because they didn't know what was going on and felt cheated that you took advantage of their island and their game. It's true that you were taking from a renewable source, but OP expectations of a meeting someone new and making a new friend were put aside by a feeling of uncertainty.
From my perspective, asking first is the best policy. For me, when someone wants something and they take it or manipulate me for it and I find out, I drop everything they want me to do for them and walk away because they broke my trust, when all they had to do was ask. If they had asked, and it was something as easy and simple as allowing someone to use my island, I would say yes in a heart beat, but once that trust is broken, good luck getting anything from me.
What I'm saying is maybe you went out of your way to make sure you did things without compromising their town, but from where I stand, it would have been better if you had forewarned them. Yes, they might have said no. Yes, they might have tried to pry into what you wanted to do, but at least there wouldn't be a thread broadcasting something so trivial as a breach in conversational politeness. Next time you want to do something like this, go to the Train Station (or Re-Tail if you plan on buying) and post a new thread there asking everyone to help collect what you need. Someone will help you if you ask nicely enough.
Lilworros:
I am unsure if you asked, but it is your responsibility to make sure the people coming over are doing what they said they are doing. (Not sure if I wrote that clearly.) That being said, I agree that what you did was acceptable, reason listed above, and encourage you to keep trying to find new people to play with.
What we all have to remember is that not everyone can see what we see and our perspectives shape how we read the text in front of us. In this case, perhaps it is best to forgive each other for our words and transgressions and move on to something positive.
Keeping the your personal plans is fine and all, but I do believe you should have been up front with OP about your intentions. Something like "Hey, you have gardening tours? I really need 10,000+ tulips for something I'm working on. Can I come over and use your Island?" would have been much more polite than just going over and taking the tulips. I feel that OP decided to cut things off because they didn't know what was going on and felt cheated that you took advantage of their island and their game. It's true that you were taking from a renewable source, but OP expectations of a meeting someone new and making a new friend were put aside by a feeling of uncertainty.
From my perspective, asking first is the best policy. For me, when someone wants something and they take it or manipulate me for it and I find out, I drop everything they want me to do for them and walk away because they broke my trust, when all they had to do was ask. If they had asked, and it was something as easy and simple as allowing someone to use my island, I would say yes in a heart beat, but once that trust is broken, good luck getting anything from me.
What I'm saying is maybe you went out of your way to make sure you did things without compromising their town, but from where I stand, it would have been better if you had forewarned them. Yes, they might have said no. Yes, they might have tried to pry into what you wanted to do, but at least there wouldn't be a thread broadcasting something so trivial as a breach in conversational politeness. Next time you want to do something like this, go to the Train Station (or Re-Tail if you plan on buying) and post a new thread there asking everyone to help collect what you need. Someone will help you if you ask nicely enough.
Lilworros:
I am unsure if you asked, but it is your responsibility to make sure the people coming over are doing what they said they are doing. (Not sure if I wrote that clearly.) That being said, I agree that what you did was acceptable, reason listed above, and encourage you to keep trying to find new people to play with.
What we all have to remember is that not everyone can see what we see and our perspectives shape how we read the text in front of us. In this case, perhaps it is best to forgive each other for our words and transgressions and move on to something positive.
TheLostEmpire
Senior Member
All you had to do was say that you wanted to go on a tour to collect flowers. What you did was wrong because you expect a stranger to be o.k. with you using them and not even stating why. How would you feel if someone went to your island, ignored you, not help you, and then demand to go back after you kicked them out. Besides on the easy garden tour you have plenty of time to fill the garden up and still have a lot of flowers for yourself. All you had to do was tell her what flower that you wanted so she would not pick them up. Island tours are meant for teamwork not your own selfish desires. Do that on your own island, but when someone invites you have some manners.
Ps she is not your family so how would she know
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Moon Dreamer
Wish Granter
this coming from a guy who can't even spell selfish properly, the point of all this is that she's whining and moaning because i wouldn't communicate with her, if it weren't for the garden tours that her island was offering i would've just powered off and go do something else i don't play on wifi just to talk and talk until i feel a headache coming i go on wifi because of the different merchandise and to sell my apples don't bug me and i won't bug you simple as that
TheLostEmpire
Senior Member
Sorry for my imperfect grammer due to using my phone and it being 1 o clock in the morning. Not only are you inconsiderate but also judgemental. Thank you for pointing it out so I can edit it. By the way you are not entitled to something just because someone has what you want. That is why you are getting so much negative feedback. By the way your grammer isn't perfect either.
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Moon Dreamer
Wish Granter
at least i don't make up excuses for bad spelling "oh my phone did it" thats just as old as time itself
oh by the way its grammar, entitled, judgmental. what other words shall i correct for you?
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tigereyes86
Senior Member
This is unfortunate, as everyone I've visited/have had visit me have been nothing but lovely. People I've only added to trade with have ended up staying on my friends list because of their attitude to the game and their respect. I was suspicious when someone came in running round with a shovel, but then it was put away as it is easy to forget to disable a tool before going into a building etc. I agree that anyone should ask if they would like something, heck I don't even look around a town unless I ask first, and ask if I can take fruit or flowers (not any more as I'm all set for them unless they're a gift)
I've had no damage, met very generous and genuinely nice people, to which I have also tried to be with the little I have. Give it another shot and as you mentioned, you always have the "flick off the wifi switch" option if anything is suspicious. Good luck!!
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Come on, seriously guys, give it a rest. If you want to be picky, you should capitalise the first letter of your sentences, use full stops and have written "it's grammar" as there is a contraction of 'it is' in there...
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