Sages Replaced...?

[UltraByte]

A good idea, but like someone said, not too long after this, and everyone'll be a HoFamer. I suggest you only add someone if they did something amazing and changed TBT.

 

[Grawr]

And...it'll also make the sages feel bad if they are no longer sages...

 

[Bulerias]

PRetty much all the Sages will make the HoF the first time, so this really doesnt change anything.

Indeed it does. The HoF will not actually give anyone any additional rights, all that it will do is give inductees a feeling of... how do I put it... basically it will put them in a better light because of all of the good stuff that they did.

But HoF = a reason to make normal members feel special
Sages become normal members.

Sages, being 1337 for the most part, are automatic favorites for the HoF

Sages get voted for HoF

Normal Members feel bad again.

Actually, if I was going to vote for inductees, I would induct the Sages at a later point since they had already received some recognition prior, while there are tons of members who have yet to receive any.

 

[Grawr]

But, do the sages find it okay to be replaced? Won't that make them feel kinda...not good?

 

[dragonflamez]

PRetty much all the Sages will make the HoF the first time, so this really doesnt change anything.

Indeed it does. The HoF will not actually give anyone any additional rights, all that it will do is give inductees a feeling of... how do I put it... basically it will put them in a better light because of all of the good stuff that they did.

But HoF = a reason to make normal members feel special
Sages become normal members.

Sages, being 1337 for the most part, are automatic favorites for the HoF

Sages get voted for HoF

Normal Members feel bad again.

Actually, if I was going to vote for inductees, I would induct the Sages at a later point since they had already received some recognition prior, while there are tons of members who have yet to receive any.

But the HoF is voted by the members.
Which equals a popularity contest.

And everyone knows that the Sages have little minion armies somewhere.

 

[Zelandonia]

PRetty much all the Sages will make the HoF the first time, so this really doesnt change anything.

Indeed it does. The HoF will not actually give anyone any additional rights, all that it will do is give inductees a feeling of... how do I put it... basically it will put them in a better light because of all of the good stuff that they did.

But HoF = a reason to make normal members feel special
Sages become normal members.

Sages, being 1337 for the most part, are automatic favorites for the HoF

Sages get voted for HoF

Normal Members feel bad again.

Actually, if I was going to vote for inductees, I would induct the Sages at a later point since they had already received some recognition prior, while there are tons of members who have yet to receive any.

Agreed.

I think that we should restart the Sage program from scratch, and also do the HoF program.

A requirement of being a new Sage could be That you must have been a HoF member for a while.

 

[Bulerias]

But, do the sages find it okay to be replaced? Won't that make them feel kinda...not good?

As I said, they wouldn't be "replaced", since they would eventually get into the HoF.

@ Dragonflamez - The thing about that... I don't know if that's going to be how it will be in the long run. Maybe it'll actually be voted by the staff, we'll have to see... I am against popularity contests (especially seeing as that's how most of the Sages at NSider are chosen... look at Computers or any other Sage like him), so yeah...

 

[Zelandonia]

But, do the sages find it okay to be replaced? Won't that make them feel kinda...not good?

As I said, they wouldn't be "replaced", since they would eventually get into the HoF.

@ Dragonflamez - The thing about that... I don't know if that's going to be how it will be in the long run. Maybe it'll actually be voted by the staff, we'll have to see... I am against popularity contests (especially seeing as that's how most of the Sages at NSider are chosen... look at Computers or any other Sage like him), so yeah...

No.

Having Staff vote for the HoF members would defeat the purpose of the Hof.

 

[Grawr]

But, do the sages find it okay to be replaced? Won't that make them feel kinda...not good?

As I said, they wouldn't be "replaced", since they would eventually get into the HoF.

@ Dragonflamez - The thing about that... I don't know if that's going to be how it will be in the long run. Maybe it'll actually be voted by the staff, we'll have to see... I am against popularity contests (especially seeing as that's how most of the Sages at NSider are chosen... look at Computers or any other Sage like him), so yeah...

Okay...but have you talked to the sages? It's kinda like...no, it is like you gave them something, but now you're taking it away and saying "you'll get something like this again...but later."

As long as the sages are okay with it, I guess its an okay idea.

 

[dragonflamez]

But, do the sages find it okay to be replaced? Won't that make them feel kinda...not good?

As I said, they wouldn't be "replaced", since they would eventually get into the HoF.

@ Dragonflamez - The thing about that... I don't know if that's going to be how it will be in the long run. Maybe it'll actually be voted by the staff, we'll have to see... I am against popularity contests (especially seeing as that's how most of the Sages at NSider are chosen... look at Computers or any other Sage like him), so yeah...

Well, NSider is radioactive. I much prefer choosing Sages based on merit. Look at Spamerooski on Nsider. He's a Sage, and has 600 posts.

 

[Tyler]

But, do the sages find it okay to be replaced? Won't that make them feel kinda...not good?

As I said, they wouldn't be "replaced", since they would eventually get into the HoF.

@ Dragonflamez - The thing about that... I don't know if that's going to be how it will be in the long run. Maybe it'll actually be voted by the staff, we'll have to see... I am against popularity contests (especially seeing as that's how most of the Sages at NSider are chosen... look at Computers or any other Sage like him), so yeah...

Okay...but have you talked to the sages? It's kinda like...no, it is like you gave them something, but now you're taking it away and saying "you'll get something like this again...but later."

As long as the sages are okay with it, I guess its an okay idea.

Nope.

 

[Grawr]

Nope..meaning your not okay with it, Odd?


:huh:

 

[Bulerias]

But, do the sages find it okay to be replaced? Won't that make them feel kinda...not good?

As I said, they wouldn't be "replaced", since they would eventually get into the HoF.

@ Dragonflamez - The thing about that... I don't know if that's going to be how it will be in the long run. Maybe it'll actually be voted by the staff, we'll have to see... I am against popularity contests (especially seeing as that's how most of the Sages at NSider are chosen... look at Computers or any other Sage like him), so yeah...

Well, NSider is radioactive. I much prefer choosing Sages based on merit. Look at Spamerooski on Nsider. He's a Sage, and has 600 posts.

Same here, as I said, I detest popularity contests. I am a good friend of Spam's, actually, and even though he has virtually no posts as you said (compared to the other Sages, most of which are suckups), he has done a hell of a lot more than, say, Computers.

 

[Tyler]

Nope..meaning your not okay with it, Odd?


:huh:

A little. But I meant nope he didn't contact us. Or not directly. He kinda did but we weren't expecting this.

 

[dragonflamez]

Well, of course the Sages dont like the idea.
But restarting the Sage system from the ground up might be a good idea.

But that would probably mean either picking all-new Sages, or choosing the same ones again. Because I doubt they would consider it 'fair' if some old Sages were picked over new ones.

 

[Grawr]

I dunno'...I still say you talk more to the sages about this.

 

[Tyler]

Well I'm discussing with Bul the main problems that are happening right now so we may have a way to resolve this. :gyroidveryhappy:

 

[dragonflamez]

But, do the sages find it okay to be replaced? Won't that make them feel kinda...not good?

As I said, they wouldn't be "replaced", since they would eventually get into the HoF.

@ Dragonflamez - The thing about that... I don't know if that's going to be how it will be in the long run. Maybe it'll actually be voted by the staff, we'll have to see... I am against popularity contests (especially seeing as that's how most of the Sages at NSider are chosen... look at Computers or any other Sage like him), so yeah...

Well, NSider is radioactive. I much prefer choosing Sages based on merit. Look at Spamerooski on Nsider. He's a Sage, and has 600 posts.

Same here, as I said, I detest popularity contests. I am a good friend of Spam's, actually, and even though he has virtually no posts as you said (compared to the other Sages, most of which are suckups), he has done a hell of a lot more than, say, Computers.

Lol, I'm also a good contact with Spam. CS (which is now private, by the way) is a breeding ground for intellect.

Still doesnt solve the Sage problem, though.

 

[UltraByte]

Maybe it'd be a good idea to restart the Sage system, just let go the few that don't deserve the title. Of course, they'd hate you if you did that.

 

[Bulerias]

Maybe it'd be a good idea to restart the Sage system, just let go the few that don't deserve the title. Of course, they'd hate you if you did that.

And that's exactly the problem; I wouldn't want anyone hating me for de-Saging them, and if you ask me, I think the lot of them deserve it, but the problem is with the program, not with them.