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Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

Antonio please don't. don't feel like that, again if I ever said anything to offend you, I'm sorry, it was never my intention. But don't go like that, I honestly think the TBT is an awesome community, and it hurts me that I was part of making you think otherwise.
I feel like I'm not fitting in, but I not letting it affect my experience. Not because most say you are wrong it means you are, if you honestly want to quit I will respect your decision, but please don't go leaving, thinking I have something against you.

Again so sorry for making you feel this way.
I am going to quit but I really wanted to post my role just to ****ing spite Damniel for being mean. You are extremely nice and would never mention that other people are embarrassed for me.

I can't handle this, sorry. I have to much going on to emotionally handle this game, I thought I could but I couldn't.
 
oh teddy i just noticed you voted for mayor leaf earlier, why? i thought you said I was one of your main concerns
 
However, I am not going to do that because even IF I am mad, I shouldn't ruin this for everyone out of spite. Again, apologies.
 
I am going to quit but I really wanted to post my role just to ****ing spite Damniel for being mean. You are extremely nice and would never mention that other people are embarrassed for me.

I can't handle this, sorry. I have to much going on to emotionally handle this game, I thought I could but I couldn't.

I know that we don't know each other, but if you ever want to talk, feel free to reach out! Don't feel alone here, because many members care for you.
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oh teddy i just noticed you voted for mayor leaf earlier, why? i thought you said I was one of your main concerns
She is the other, and I have a feeling you won't kill me tonight, so we are good for now.
 
The fact that you state people were embrassed for me is extremely disrespectful. No one here trusts me whenever I play and scum always downplays my effort. The fact that you state people feel embarrassed for me literally breaks my heart and I refuse to participate in a game. I thought this was supposed to be a caring community but all we have here are people who are extremely disrespectful.
i meant mog didn't want to claim due to your poor decision to counter claim early. i didn't say that everyone was embarrassed of you. we don't agree with your logic because it ultimately disagrees with what toads has advised us to do, not because we think you're incompetent or something. i think you're taking this a bit too personally. if you feel you can't control your emotions, then i do suggest you leave the game and figure things out outside. hope you'll be okay, but i don't think bringing in all these emotions is helping anyone
 
i meant mog didn't want to claim due to your poor decision to counter claim early. i didn't say that everyone was embarrassed of you. we don't agree with your logic because it ultimately disagrees with what toads has advised us to do, not because we think you're incompetent or something. i think you're taking this a bit too personally. if you feel you can't control your emotions, then i do suggest you leave the game and figure things out outside. hope you'll be okay, but i don't think bringing in all these emotions is helping anyone
You literally just said people were embarrassed for me, last game not this game. I also told mog she didn't have to counter claim early in the chat. It was up to her when she wanted to claim, which i stated multiple times throughout the game.

There could've been other ways to tell me that without stating I was an embarrassment. This isn't about me handling my feelings, is about you being mean.
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Correction, you didn't state i was embrassing but you said others feel embrassed for me which is extremely rude because I didn't know about this and it's just mean.
 
I would say @Damniel @Antonio both stop posting for right now
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I don’t think drawing attention to someone’s very recent gameplay is relevant right now

I also think one needs to own their gameplay and be able to move on from it and realize things get said in the heat of the moment, but don’t represent a player’s personal stance on an actual person.

antonio if you are serious about a replacement then do not post anymore and I will try to find one
 
After all this I want to make something clear to all of you, whether I'm helping or not, whether you like what I post or not, NOTHING I SAY is about you as person, everything is only game related, please never feel anything I post here is a personal attack. If you feel I made a personal attack against you, please tell me and I will exit the game that moment, because that is not what I'm here for, and you feeling good and happy is really important to me.
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And also know that nothing you have said about me have felt personal. I'll stop posting until this is solved.
 
oof what a mess.

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okay, first of all i'm not gonna just sit and let teddy start a push against me for literally no reason. you can't just go on a hunch at this stage when so much other **** has gone down. i don't see why teddy wouldn't focus on any of the other suspicions myself and others have brought up.

epona hasn't done a whole lot to appear town other than give clear breakdown and analysis of what's going on. not really helping us find who mafia is but just a lot of exploration. it shocks me that you're so quickly clearing her of town "because of what seroja didn't say." like girl what the hell?? i said from my first reads that i couldn't tell if epona's trying to be helpful or manipulative with her contributions and honestly i think it's more manipulation than helpful.

i also think it's funny how trundle just likes to peek in to be condescending and do the bare minimum to appear town. nobody seems to be questioning this at all and it's bizarre.

it makes sense that seroja was targetted because of how much valid and sober insight they were giving into everyone's roles. they were scratching at something and were getting results, hence kill.

re: antonio on damniel.. bro i get getting your feelings hurt but let this roll of your shoulders, jfc.

i'm likely to vote for either trundle, epona, or teddy.
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ALSO WOW... teddy really already cast a vote against me when i personally feel i haven’t done anything scummy and am ~trying~ to be helpful. there’s was more sus players atm so tbh feels desperate!! sis if you’re town (which at this pt i’m heavily doubting), you’re not helping us at all.
 
i also think it's funny how trundle just likes to peek in to be condescending and do the bare minimum to appear town. nobody seems to be questioning this at all and it's bizarre.
can you elaborate on this? i don't really see how he just peaks in to be condescending. could you cite some instances?

yea teddys read on you and interpretation of Seroja's stance on epona is pretty unclear to me
 
oof what a mess.

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okay, first of all i'm not gonna just sit and let teddy start a push against me for literally no reason. you can't just go on a hunch at this stage when so much other **** has gone down. i don't see why teddy wouldn't focus on any of the other suspicions myself and others have brought up.

epona hasn't done a whole lot to appear town other than give clear breakdown and analysis of what's going on. not really helping us find who mafia is but just a lot of exploration. it shocks me that you're so quickly clearing her of town "because of what seroja didn't say." like girl what the hell?? i said from my first reads that i couldn't tell if epona's trying to be helpful or manipulative with her contributions and honestly i think it's more manipulation than helpful.

i'm likely to vote for either trundle, epona, or teddy.

I could give you a million reasons on why I think you're mafia, but they will be ignored, so don't worry. Epona is town and nothing you say will change my mind on that, I'm set.

totally off topic, I love that gif!
 
this doesn't answer what i asked. seroja directly supported me and (to you) indirectly supports epona. but epona is town because she wouldn't kill someone who town read her, but I would? and again, what have I done that is scummy, not just volt
what made you think that seroja subtly town read epona

you haven't answered these yet teddy

I could give you a million reasons on why I think you're mafia, but they will be ignored, so don't worry

could you give 5 reasons of those million? i don't see how this is supposed to convince anyone to vote with you
 
I could give you a million reasons on why I think you're mafia, but they will be ignored, so don't worry. Epona is town and nothing you say will change my mind on that, I'm set.

totally off topic, I love that gif!
oh screw that load of bull. you actually have none and just want people to blindly follow your lead!

makes sense you'd protect her tbh.
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oh also dan im getting my receipts in order bby
 
oh screw that load of bull. you actually have none and just want people to blindly follow your lead!

makes sense you'd protect her tbh.
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oh also dan im getting my receipts in order bby

What lead?! I'm at the bottom of the barrel, if anything I'm helping you not being a targeted. And of course it makes sense I will strongly defend someone I feel is town. After thinking for a while, I did let your manipulation comment get to me, when I first read Epona, that was a mistake on my part.
 
What lead?! I'm at the bottom of the barrel, if anything I'm helping you not being a targeted. And of course it makes sense I will strongly defend someone I feel is town. After thinking for a while, I did let your manipulation comment get to me, when I first read Epona, that was a mistake on my part.
ive had bad feelings about leaf that i havent been able to put a finger on exactly why, what were your reasons for thinking they were mafia
 
What lead?! I'm at the bottom of the barrel, if anything I'm helping you not being a targeted. And of course it makes sense I will strongly defend someone I feel is town. After thinking for a while, I did let your manipulation comment get to me, when I first read Epona, that was a mistake on my part.
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dan re: trundle,

Regarding myself:
If you think I'm mafia for throwing an early day sus out that is great for you. You are thinking with your big thinking cap on. I am almost certain there is a mafia who threw a town lean on me after I made that post. Please don't sheep me because I am hyper aware of it this game after the shawo incident. There is also likely at least one mafia who is criticizing Teddy for their lack of contribution to the game so far.
lol i mean, i get it but also yikes.

it’s day one

this was re: antonio asking "So, I have a question for everyone! What kind of information regarding others would your vote on your sus bring that can benefit us?" like, why even reply tbh.

I can’t believe this day is ending in role name analysis. It’s such a worthless distraction to town.

again blah blah wah wah.

Teddy345 - Noob town in my eyes. I am pretty sure everyone who I generally read similarly to feels the same way.

idk seems like a good cover to want to push if you're a noob and also mafia.

Is this your most recent reads post? You don't even explain your reads at all lol..

the reads were from early-ish in the thread so like.. their half baked-ness made sense imo.
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ive had bad feelings about leaf that i havent been able to put a finger on exactly why, what were your reasons for thinking they were mafia
what bad feelings have i given you?
 
ive had bad feelings about leaf that i havent been able to put a finger on exactly why, what were your reasons for thinking they were mafia
first the manipulation comment about Epona, she was setting probable cause, and it in fact worked on me, putting Epona on the mafia list.
Then the way she sometimes makes her post, don't look like opinions more like facts.
Even if you try to put Trundle, Epona and myself as the mafia, it doesn't make any sense, why would Epona push me to share, if Kat was already doing that?
And why would Trundle, a suspected mafia player, would put me as the most town then? that screams sabotage, because everyone would go after me in the lynching. I don't think that was his intention, even if he is mafia.
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i can see where youre coming from with the manipulation angle ive felt like theres an agenda behind their posts a bit too, and their reads being so full of mafia reads didnt look good either
would you mind quoting some of their posts for me so that i can get a better sense of what you see
 
Even if you try to put Trundle, Epona and myself as the mafia, it doesn't make any sense, why would Epona push me to share, if Kat was already doing that?
And why would Trundle, a suspected mafia player, would put me as the most town then? that screams sabotage, because everyone would go after me in the lynching. I don't think that was his intention, even if he is mafia.
listen, all i'm saying is it makes sense for mafia to want to blend in and plant situations to justify why they're not mafia in the future. also, trundle's comments often go by unquestioned by others so it rubs me the wrong way. it feels like because he's played a lot that his reads are Thee Reads.

i can see where youre coming from with the manipulation angle ive felt like theres an agenda behind their posts a bit too, and their reads being so full of mafia reads didnt look good either
would you mind quoting some of their posts for me so that i can get a better sense of what you see
i also explained the reasoning behind why i went for such a heavy maf read in the beginning. my thought process is inverse that of most mafia players and at the time i didn't understand ~why~ it was seen as anti-town, but i get it now. trust, my two brain cells cant handle the level of acrobatics required to pull off something like that.
 
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