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Mafia Squeaky Clean Mafia - Day 3 - Ends Monday May 25 at 7pm EST

Voting for Volt, in the grand scheme of things, likely wouldn't do much. I don't see many people coming to Volt's defense, actually, more likely my vote being the start of a wagon (assuming I'd be the first vote, given there currently are no votes for Volt.) considering what people have said about being okay to vote Volt. Maybe not a wagon big enough to cause a lynch with the Kat wagon to play, but still. Who voted Volt would be useful if a lynch did happen and Volt flipped town - especially if anyone chose to vote Volt because they didn't want to vote Kat (maf buddies trying to protect?). If Volt was lynched and flipped red, however, I'm not sure if I'd be able to pinpoint any notable interactions between other players as to who might be teamed up, since, like I said, no-one really seems to be particularly sided with Volt for much. If there was no lynch on Volt, I think who voted the same as me wouldn't be useful information until later into the game.

On the other hand, placing a vote for Kat is more likely to actually have a lynch at the end of it, considering that wagon has already started. If Kat flipped town, I think I would certainly need to give Teddy a good look. Some have mentioned that Teddy+Kat looks town/town but I am more convinced that it's two different sides there, at least currently. Teddy's reaction to a Kat lynch would, of course, be helpful in making this judgement. Similar with Geoni. If Kat flipped red, I think it would be much easier to pick out or rule out potential partners since Kat has been interacting with the rest of the player base significantly more than Volt has.
 
need to get work done, so I won't be following the thread as closely. (just because I stated that I was before)
 
I don't know if this kind of thought is useful to us rn because a) you could be seeing trundle and geoni as a threat b) you think that people wouldnt risk geoni both because he could be a good ally for town and people still have the misslynch for last game in their minds or, in case you are town c) actually I dont think if one of them is maf you give us any closure on who is other ones, it is just good that it's one mad down. My point is that this is an infinite loop of hypothesis acrobatics and it can make anyone second guess their vote
a) I don't see Trundle as a threat. You must pose a threat in order to be considered a threat. If he is scum, he is not the same level threat as Geoni. I do find his actions suspicious that don't feel motivated if he was Town. Mainly the meta argument regarding DinoTown which isn't a lot to sus on consider to other things going on in this game.

b) That's why I don't want to vote Geoni off. I don't think he is scum, nor do I think he is Town. I want to come to some certainty regarding his alignment because if he is mafia, that is worrying. I think voting off on of my town 2 sus reads could at least provide some certainity regarding what his alignment is. Whether or not this is useful to town, I'm not sure. We should be worried if Geoni is scum.

c) I disagree, Geoni opinions regarding Teddy/Trundle lack acknowledgement regarding their later behavior so i would personally like to ask him some more questions.
 
a) I don't see Trundle as a threat. You must pose a threat in order to be considered a threat. If he is scum, he is not the same level threat as Geoni. I do find his actions suspicious that don't feel motivated if he was Town. Mainly the meta argument regarding DinoTown which isn't a lot to sus on consider to other things going on in this game.

b) That's why I don't want to vote Geoni off. I don't think he is scum, nor do I think he is Town. I want to come to some certainty regarding his alignment because if he is mafia, that is worrying. I think voting off on of my town 2 sus reads could at least provide some certainity regarding what his alignment is. Whether or not this is useful to town, I'm not sure. We should be worried if Geoni is scum.

c) I disagree, Geoni opinions regarding Teddy/Trundle lack acknowledgement regarding their later behavior so i would personally like to ask him some more questions.
I see your point of view and I can discard what I said, but I meant these were one of the bajillion suppositions that can be made about geoni and trundle at this point of the game.
 
hey yall, just an FYI that while I would be around for other days and such (if not lynched), I'm gonna give myself the green light to just focus on self-care and stuff today, so this might actually be my last post of the day.
For sake of disclosure since I'm one of the bois on the chopping block, I'm Donald Trump.
 
hey yall, just an FYI that while I would be around for other days and such (if not lynched), I'm gonna give myself the green light to just focus on self-care and stuff today, so this might actually be my last post of the day.
For sake of disclosure since I'm one of the bois on the chopping block, I'm Donald Trump.
Out of game: Self care is really important, I understand if you need time off for yourself.


Game: I will cast my vote soon, still deciding between some players.
 
For sake of disclosure since I'm one of the bois on the chopping block, I'm Donald Trump.
I know you put this role in green - but this actually doesn't tell us anything. I'd guess at a power role, though. Being Donald Trump means nothing since it's not like "I'm Jester" or "I'm vanilla town" or something like that, you're claiming a name, not a role, not any abilities. I have given a name in my PM too, but if I told you the name, it doesn't actually mean anything because we don't have a comprehensive list of which names match with which abilities/roles/alignments. Going out on a limb, there's only one Donald Trump in the game, so there's absolutely no-one that can back you up here saying Donald Trump is in fact a town role. Donald Trump fighting for the people doesn't sound very accurate to me but that's politics and that's irrelevant
 
hey yall, just an FYI that while I would be around for other days and such (if not lynched), I'm gonna give myself the green light to just focus on self-care and stuff today, so this might actually be my last post of the day.
For sake of disclosure since I'm one of the bois on the chopping block, I'm Donald Trump.

i really want to give you the benefit of the doubt but the lack of enthusiasm about posting and keeping yourself alive is glaring at me and i don't want to potentially mislynch someone else based on a gut feeling just to avoid wagoning on you



(game aside, hope you're doing ok)

I know you put this role in green - but this actually doesn't tell us anything. I'd guess at a power role, though. Being Donald Trump means nothing since it's not like "I'm Jester" or "I'm vanilla town" or something like that, you're claiming a name, not a role, not any abilities. I have given a name in my PM too, but if I told you the name, it doesn't actually mean anything because we don't have a comprehensive list of which names match with which abilities/roles/alignments. Going out on a limb, there's only one Donald Trump in the game, so there's absolutely no-one that can back you up here saying Donald Trump is in fact a town role. Donald Trump fighting for the people doesn't sound very accurate to me but that's politics and that's irrelevant

- On top of that, I tend to take liberties with role names. While some people like to deduce a person's alignment by their role claim, I highly dissuade from doing this as I make a weird story in all this.

i don't think role names hold that much weight in this setup. i don't really see the merit in claiming a role name at all to be honest
 
i don't think role names hold that much weight in this setup. i don't really see the merit in claiming a role name at all to be honest
That's the point I was trying to make - Kat may indeed have the Trump role but we have no way of knowing whether or not that's actually a town role until Kat flips.
 
just woke up and did a read through of all the posts i missed.

a couple things people have brought up:

- townie paranoia? yep! seems like townie is an easy enough role to play so in a setting with zero backlog it’d be easy for maf to go by undetected. at the time of my reads it was still early on and tbh a lot of the discourse just had to do with dino so very little go off. and the way people were all quickly jumping to attack her off literally NothingTM rubbed me the wrong way. as the game has progressed a lot more town attitude has been on display so it’s way easier for me to be 99% certain when someone is town.

- bianca and volt seem off to me. im on my phone so when i hop on my laptop i’ll submit my MLA format receipts. i agree with whoever made the comment (epona iirc) about how volt was the only person on biancas reads without any real push for town or mafia. makes sense to want distance.

bianca‘s behavior in general is just kinda off because shes laid pretty low and gives me fly on the wall vibes but i also can relate to that style of play.

in regards to trundle, i know i cast my vote for him but i’m likely to change it, feels more town now but i still have some suspicions. at this moment im leaning towards voting for volt.
 
Donald Trump is a town role? I got a bird that picks tics off of other birds and is referred to as noble but @Arstotzkan got a president that cause's trouble?

I'm just, what are these roles toad...
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I'm a Red Billed Oxpecker but I don't know how that matches up to Donald Trump of all things.
 
so what, role names are celebrities and also birds? lol
I DON'T KNOW, I GOT A BIRD. I feel like town aligned roles would be pleasant while scum related roles would be aggressive/rude things? I would need to see more role names to compare.
 
BILLY MAYS LOL
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OORRRR TOWN IS CLEAN AND MAFIA IS DIRTY.

My bird cleans bugs off of people, your person is cleaning products. Trump is dirty political wise.
 
BILLY MAYS LOL
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OORRRR TOWN IS CLEAN AND MAFIA IS DIRTY.

My bird cleans bugs off of people, your person is cleaning products. Trump is dirty political wise.
Would make sense
I guess we'll have a better idea after the first of us die
 
please tell me someone is mister clean because it would be a waster opportunity if it wasn't
 
i took a nap and i feel like i was hit by a truck

please tell me someone is mister clean because it would be a waster opportunity if it wasn't
it's-a me, Mr. Clean
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donald trump sounds like hes not helpful to anyone lol but doesn't imply TP

I am sticking to my guts and voting Antonio
 
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