Mafia Sunleth Waterscape Mafia (Game Over/Mafia Win)

[toastia]

Prin's Totes Awesome Thoughts on the Playerlist

I'm going to try and bring up a few lynch candidates for tomorrow. Some of these are probably already said, but I will say them from my perspective. This includes all the alive players on the list and the ones I find most suspicious. Feel free to expand on my thoughts. I haven't exactly searched through all the games of everyone just yet, but if there's an update on someone I will let you know.

Prin-Doctor

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The only reason this is here is because it's the first one on the list. YAY 4 ME.


tsundere-Townie

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Tsundere is town. I did claim way to early and it was probably a crap move but I was also annoyed that my piano teacher had yelled at me for not playing this thing right. So I really just blurted it out. After that, I cooled down a little, but I think that tsundere was just aggravated cause she said so. If she's more inclined to believe Tom's bodyguard claim, thats fine. It is an experimental setup, so anything is possible. However, this is not a big giant defense post so I'll leave it at that. Summary: 99.9% probability of being town.


Tom-Bodyguard?

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Guys less than 15 minutes left, we need to decide who to vote now. Ryan, Jello, Prin and Nick I'm all comfortable voting for some more than others.

Who would you want to vote more than others?
I'm not really sure what to believe here. They claimed bodyguard, gave the name, so I'm inclined to believe that Tom is town. They do seem extremely salty toward SP but tbh I think everyone gets salty with SP sooner or later because of his playstyle. I don't have much to say.

Superpenguin-Detective

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SP has an odd playstyle of being annoying to half the entire playerlist almost. Granted, I'm 10, so it doesn't bother me at all that much. So, I feel sorry for all the older people annoyed :/
He, again, said the role name, and what it does. When googled, it makes perfect sense. So, again, I'm inclined to believe that he is town. (MAN, AM I EVER GOING TO GET TO ACTUAL SUSPICIONS?)

Mew-Dead Vigilante

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R.I.P Mew.

Dad-Townie

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Dad has been extra pro-town in my opinion this game. He tried to get us back on track when the mass blue-claiming happened. He's made good posts, contributed plenty, and all together is pro-town. I recommend keeping him around. Dad, if you are scum, I will punch myself in my eye. Or maybe not. IDK.

Minties-Townie

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I'm so sorry you live in a difficult timezone. I think that you are town though, based on your posts. So, I won't say anything except ILY.

Ashtot-Roleblocker?

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I really don't know about you. I think the issues I have with you are personally and should not be used
against you*. I really have no desire to start an argument with you about this so I'll just leave ya here for now.

*yet

FireNinja1-Mafia?

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Personally, they raise red flags for me. They don't post much in the thread, and most of what I could find was pregame mess. This post was what I mainly go off of:

First post since last night. Okay, here we go.

I don't exactly find this claim to be too good, since it:
a. Is a good claim for mafia (both have killing powers)
b. Exposes our one and most likely only vigilante.

I wouldn't be trying to do that when there is such a powerful power, I'm not sure if this is dummy or scummy, but I find this to be a rather scummy act. ##VOTE: Mewmewmewm

They were talking about Mew here, which is no suprise here since almost everyone was suspicious of them at that point of time. Since they got killed anyway for inactivity, it doesn't really matter about the lynch except that we lost our only vig(ok, does matter a LOT). Mew doesn't defend herself most of the time so she just outed her role to protect herself. Mafia I doubt would claim vigilante, most of the time they claim townie. If they happen not to die that night and has just been outed as vig, they will probably be outed then as scum because would scum really let a known Vig live? It did expose our vigilante, but with all the blues exposed now what difference would it make? Of course, FN1 couldn't have known then so thats not very strong. They are the only person who has not claimed.

JellofishXD-Mafia?

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They seriously strike out as scummy to me. At the start of the game, they posted one post about them going to school:

I had school but I'm back now!

They then didn't say anything else. Next time they spoke they said that they were catching up on the thread. After being called out on it, they made a mini suspcion list which the one and only person on it was me.
Not to mention the extreme contridictory here:

I'm voting for.........ummm ##VOTE Superpenguin
(banwagoning sucks but I kinda agree he's a distraction)

Only to come back later with:

I mean srsly sp said you were prone to bandwagoning and when u said because of reasons stated above the reasons were because I was inactive......

So, basically, you are saying that SP should be lynched and hop on the bandwagon train of Day 1 with 9999 stops, and come back later and say SP should be lynched for his bandwagoning?

I'm tired so I'll finish the list with the other two later.

 

[Ashtot]

Good post Prin.

I'll be out for about 4 hours or so, so don't expect me post. Have fun.

 

[radical6]

idk what im doing but here are my opinions too!
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Prin - idk i don't really trust any of the blue claims because we have way too many..i feel like one of the blue claims are definitely a lie. you came to mind since you kinda just blurted your role out lol.

Me - hi im a confirmed townie

Tom - ok i dont know but i want him dead because i hate him!! hes always like super duper careful as scum its sooo scary! i dont think he wouldve claimed bodyguard if he was town. idk i would think he would claim townie?? he really hates roleclaiming (he told me in xcom but i made him claim jailer to me xoxoxo). i know nick asked for people to claim but i would think he would claim townie y'know?? but idk he should die tonight

Superpenguin - ok when hes town hes like joking around for half the day, then he gets super serious! as scum hes super serious on day 1 and then like tom said he just takes it easy and chills back once everyones dead. yes it's possible he's changing his playstyle, but I would think he would've done that in Portal too. who cares if hes a distraction, its not worth wasting a lynch on him. he makes games more exciting sometimes (unlike tom who wants no fun in mafia games!!!!!)

Mewmewmewm - why did you die (?＿｀。)

Dad - okay i think hes town!! when we played as scum together in frozen he didnt really try at all and just went with the flow. in portal he was a bit less obvious as scum, but still he didn't really help town that much. he made every post here and there and didn't bring up a case or anything. in newbie mafia he contributed a lot more as town and tried to lead town. this game he calmed everyone down and really tried to help us get back on track, while as scum i feel like he would slide by and let this happen. that and he was asking me for the townie name to see if i was confirmed or not - if he was mafia i dont think he would've bothered. it's not like he knew the name anyway, and he confirmed it so. if you're scum i hate you dad and im never talking to you again!

Minties - umm tbh i can never get a read on you. your posts do remind me of your posting in XCOM so im more inclined to believe you're town but idk.

Ashtot - ummm idk either lol. i do think you're town because you got really pissed off at the roleclaiming earlier. but im not sure srry

FireNinja1 - okay i agree with prin. you're pretty quiet. but you're always quiet so i dont know. like i was looking at your post history and you're like rly fking quiet as scum. idk. if mew was alive i would ask her to shoot you but she got modkilled ):

JellofishXD - same opinion as fireninja.

Ryan88 - you're playing just like you did in my game. though you could easily just be mafia hiding behind your newbie play style.

NikkiNikki - i think youre scum lol. when you're town you put more effort into posting. this game you just made one post on mew, which is easy for scum to hide in since like the rest of town was ganging up on her. then you were yelling at ashtot and prin. In Mean Girls, XCOM, and Captain Flint's Gold you post one liners all the time. You barely add your opinion as scum. You hide and try to not point fingers at people as scum.

Spoiler: Town posts

Is this is all you can say? seriously the one having a weak defense here is yourself. And im not scared if fingers are pointed at my direction because i am not scum and will defend myself unlike you.

But you are just saying the proof that others said is enough for you not to be scummy. Whereas you are not point out why Flake is scummy, I believe you are nit putting out more of your opinion
Yeah okay but if flake is flips town fingers will pointed at you

and base on your postings we believe you are scum. You got to bring more on the table than saying because of their posting. Show the posting you believe why he is scum, show us why you think that. Saying a few short sentences doesn't persuade someone.

I though when you said NO LYNCH IS NOT AN OPTION was just something to make everyone lynch someone right away. So I didn't know that actually no lynching is not an option. However, I vote no lynch because I was confused on the whole Kuyby case. It just pisses me off of how they just vote for them self without even trying. Like I said in the end I saw Kuyby final posts and change my vote back to gnoixaim.

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I actually didn't know*

Kyuby seems supisious when he/she said



Then CookingOkasan said:


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If he/she says they are a townie then there is no need to announce that they are in hidden mode or be hidden

First of all, Stat incident. I believe her posting were not spams because as I seen her posting styles in other threads it shows that that is her way of posting so there no way it is suspicious. Second of all, straight out in the beginning Kildor put her in the suspicious list knowing of how she is because as you can see they are friends...aren't they? I can take a guess that MAYBE they both talked about their roles maybe Stats trusted Kildor with her role? I am not saying that hes a bad guy or anything but I just found it quite weird of how it all started IMO. We could had let it be a modkilled/replacement instead of lynching her. It would had caused a waste of time/vote.



Why would you be in hidden mode? if you are not a mafia then why hide? Just asking.

I am still on the no lyching as I said before it is day one. However I am a bit suspicious on Qwerty111

reason why:

Their name is not on the list. SO he or she has not agreed on anything/ said anything towards the discussions

You're pushy and aggressive as town. You're not afraid to go after people and question them. You much more active and your posts are longer than a few sentences when you're town.

However, when you're scum..

Spoiler: scum posts

It is suspicious that jellofishXD would say this, but as everyone else said he is a newbie and can make mistakes. However I will keep an eye on him.

Since you were cult leader you didn't know Jellofish was mafia or not, but if Jellofish had flipped town in that game you would've looked bad. You're always wishy-washy as scum. You don't want to seem like you're defending a lynch candidate, but you don't want to look like you're in full support of them getting lynched so blame doesn't get put back on you.

Sataric has mentioned mew many times. To me mewx3 has been extremely quite imo. Also I want to point out that mew said she was going to make a case on someone and never did.

Again, saying already known things. Aside from your last comment which wasn't much, you just kind of hide as scum. During that time of the game Mew was an easy target, so it would be pretty easy to gang up on her. Reminds me of this game you know. You come in and only talk about Mew and leave.

Hmm If cap is townie and if shes doing the same type of posting in mean girls she should at least defend herself and be more helpful towards town. However, there's the possibility that she is changing her play-style?

Again, not pointing fingers so blame doesn't come back at you. Cap was the main candidate for lynch at this time so it was fairly easy to post about her.

As town you post opinion about people other than the main suspects - you bring some names forward. Or you bring up evidence of your own. As scum you hide behind people and meekly post. Your playstyle this game really reminds me of your scum playstyle. You're much more quiet as scum and you pretty much only talk about the most popular lynch candidate. I know it's day 1 but there was a lot of discussion that I felt like you could've easily replied to. You just seemed to kinda ignore all of it and you're hiding. It doesn't feel like you're putting as much effort as you do when you're town. You didn't talk because you didn't want to start a debate or an argument, because that would draw suspicion on you. You only went after Jellofish and Mew since everyone seemed to agree that they should be lynched. But the rest of the lynch candidates people had mixed feelings about.

Okay sorry if my post makes no sense at all but I'm really tired and I tried. but idk, I feel like NikkiNikki is scum. Tom too maybe

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nikki i saw u u didnt respond u fker

 

[JellofishXD]

I'm going to try and bring up a few lynch candidates for tomorrow. Some of these are probably already said, but I will say them from my perspective. This includes all the alive players on the list and the ones I find most suspicious. Feel free to expand on my thoughts. I haven't exactly searched through all the games of everyone just yet, but if there's an update on someone I will let you know.

Prin-Doctor

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The only reason this is here is because it's the first one on the list. YAY 4 ME.


tsundere-Townie

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Tsundere is town. I did claim way to early and it was probably a crap move but I was also annoyed that my piano teacher had yelled at me for not playing this thing right. So I really just blurted it out. After that, I cooled down a little, but I think that tsundere was just aggravated cause she said so. If she's more inclined to believe Tom's bodyguard claim, thats fine. It is an experimental setup, so anything is possible. However, this is not a big giant defense post so I'll leave it at that. Summary: 99.9% probability of being town.


Tom-Bodyguard?

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Who would you want to vote more than others?
I'm not really sure what to believe here. They claimed bodyguard, gave the name, so I'm inclined to believe that Tom is town. They do seem extremely salty toward SP but tbh I think everyone gets salty with SP sooner or later because of his playstyle. I don't have much to say.

Superpenguin-Detective

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SP has an odd playstyle of being annoying to half the entire playerlist almost. Granted, I'm 10, so it doesn't bother me at all that much. So, I feel sorry for all the older people annoyed :/
He, again, said the role name, and what it does. When googled, it makes perfect sense. So, again, I'm inclined to believe that he is town. (MAN, AM I EVER GOING TO GET TO ACTUAL SUSPICIONS?)

Mew-Dead Vigilante

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R.I.P Mew.

Dad-Townie

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Dad has been extra pro-town in my opinion this game. He tried to get us back on track when the mass blue-claiming happened. He's made good posts, contributed plenty, and all together is pro-town. I recommend keeping him around. Dad, if you are scum, I will punch myself in my eye. Or maybe not. IDK.

Minties-Townie

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I'm so sorry you live in a difficult timezone. I think that you are town though, based on your posts. So, I won't say anything except ILY.

Ashtot-Roleblocker?

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I really don't know about you. I think the issues I have with you are personally and should not be used
against you*. I really have no desire to start an argument with you about this so I'll just leave ya here for now.

*yet

FireNinja1-Mafia?

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Personally, they raise red flags for me. They don't post much in the thread, and most of what I could find was pregame mess. This post was what I mainly go off of:


They were talking about Mew here, which is no suprise here since almost everyone was suspicious of them at that point of time. Since they got killed anyway for inactivity, it doesn't really matter about the lynch except that we lost our only vig(ok, does matter a LOT). Mew doesn't defend herself most of the time so she just outed her role to protect herself. Mafia I doubt would claim vigilante, most of the time they claim townie. If they happen not to die that night and has just been outed as vig, they will probably be outed then as scum because would scum really let a known Vig live? It did expose our vigilante, but with all the blues exposed now what difference would it make? Of course, FN1 couldn't have known then so thats not very strong. They are the only person who has not claimed.

JellofishXD-Mafia?

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They seriously strike out as scummy to me. At the start of the game, they posted one post about them going to school:

They then didn't say anything else. Next time they spoke they said that they were catching up on the thread. After being called out on it, they made a mini suspcion list which the one and only person on it was me.
Not to mention the extreme contridictory here:

Only to come back later with:

So, basically, you are saying that SP should be lynched and hop on the bandwagon train of Day 1 with 9999 stops, and come back later and say SP should be lynched for his bandwagoning?

I'm tired so I'll finish the list with the other two later.

I live in Australia (just sayin)
Okay I have a few problems with ur list. I genuinely came back from school. And the reason I didn't post was because everyone else was prolly asleep so I saved my WATCH LIST (not suspicion list) for when moat were online! I actually wasnt wanting to lynch sp for bandwagonibg I was angry with ryan88 for voting me without proper reasoning!

 

[toastia]

The thread will still be here. I dont see why you didnt post it.

 

[JellofishXD]

Yeah I should have if I knew it would bring so much suspicion towards me but I wanted it when more ppl were active.

 

[toastia]

Again, if you were sus of ryan, why didn't you vote ryan?

 

[JellofishXD]

I wasnt sus I was angry! Because I believe his newbieness. He said as reasons stated above which was I was inactive and at the time I wasn't

 

[NikkiNikki]

@Tsuderen: I'm sorry as I have told prin that I was going to be busy and didn't know when I was coming back.

But here's my are my thoughts on a few peeps:

Ashtot - Hard to get a read on, but you did get pissy when people were role claiming even though to me that doesn't automatically make you town because you could be mafia, and was mad as a player (does that make sense) since not everyone like a large majority to role claim especially blues on day one.

FireNinja1 - You haven't been posting much, if i remember the last game i played with you. You were town and you posted a lot more than now. You could be "flying under the radar".

JellofishXD -

I was at school and this may make me look suspicious but im actually a townie (miniflan) aswell!

To be honest to me, I believe you could be mafia. You posted once when day started, then when there was an hour or less for day to end you appear. However, the first thing you post is:

I really didn't find anyone suspicious I know some ppl aren't gonna buy it but it's true!!

I don't believe this, there was a ton of discussion going on to feel sus about someone.

I'm voting for.........ummm ##VOTE Superpenguin
(banwagoning sucks but I kinda agree he's a distraction)

I mean srsly sp said you were prone to bandwagoning and when u said because of reasons stated above the reasons were because I was inactive......

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Okay well I'm going to school so I'll be gone for awhile!

You jump on to the Sp voting train, even tho you found prin sus? To me you hardly contribute. Judging the way you post is seems kinda the same as mean girls when you were mafia.

Ryan88 - same thing as Jellofish. hardly contributes. bandwagons. I really don't believe the whole newbie card on this one.

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NikkiNikki - i think youre scum lol. when you're town you put more effort into posting. this game you just made one post on mew, which is easy for scum to hide in since like the rest of town was ganging up on her. then you were yelling at ashtot and prin. In Mean Girls, XCOM, and Captain Flint's Gold you post one liners all the time. You barely add your opinion as scum. You hide and try to not point fingers at people as scum.

You only went after Jellofish and Mew since everyone seemed to agree that they should be lynched. But the rest of the lynch candidates people had mixed feelings about.

Okay sorry if my post makes no sense at all but I'm really tired and I tried. but idk, I feel like NikkiNikki is scum. Tom too maybe

At the start the game I woke up, and was on my phone when I was posting this:

So from what I read mews claim is true? But mew why not defend yourself instead of exposing yourself since the vig is important to town:/. As I remember in Xcom you were a blue role and died because you were acting scummy since you wouldn't say much. If you are a blue this time again please learn from your past mistake. Also I haven't heard from jello fish and why are yall voting for me? I just woke up and catched up a bit. And I am on my phone at the moment.

I didn't find mew sus was telling that she shouldn't repeat her past mistake when she was Dr. in Xcom. I mentioned Jellofish because when I was reading to catch up I haven't seen him/her post. I needed to vote for someone because i was in a rush. So I placed my vote for jello when he/she was inactive at the time.

Bravo on getting an idea of my playing style when I am a townie or mafia. (claps)

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nikki i saw u u didnt respond u fker

<333

 

[toastia]

So... you voted SP because you were angry at ryan?

 

[JellofishXD]

No I voted sp because I thought he could be a distraction.....

 

[Superpenguin]

Tom - ok i dont know but i want him dead because i hate him!! hes always like super duper careful as scum its sooo scary! i dont think he wouldve claimed bodyguard if he was town. idk i would think he would claim townie?? he really hates roleclaiming (he told me in xcom but i made him claim jailer to me xoxoxo). i know nick asked for people to claim but i would think he would claim townie y'know?? but idk he should die tonight

Tom claimed cause I asked everyone to claim and Tom obviously loves me. <3
But Tom has claimed blue before as scum in that one game where Tina was the mayor and lynched her bodyguard, idk what game that was, I just remember Tina lynching her bodyguard. But he did it at like the very end, like at the deciding lynch which would decide if town won or mafia won basically. If he was scum and claimed blue this game, the only reason he did so was because he thought he was going to be lynched today, but I trust his claim, so okay. Maybe since he was a blue, that's why he was getting so antsy about me claiming he was my twin and he didn't want to die blablabla cause of blue stuff.

 

[NikkiNikki]

No I voted sp because I thought he could be a distraction.....

what? um you clearly agreed with others that he was a distraction

 

[toastia]

No I voted sp because I thought he could be a distraction.....

Which happened to be what everyone else was doing, eh?

 

[Superpenguin]

No I voted sp because I thought he could be a distraction.....

Are you sure you didn't revenge vote me?

 

[JellofishXD]

@Tsuderen: I'm sorry as I have told prin that I was going to be busy and didn't know when I was coming back.

But here's my are my thoughts on a few peeps:

Ashtot - Hard to get a read on, but you did get pissy when people were role claiming even though to me that doesn't automatically make you town because you could be mafia, and was mad as a player (does that make sense) since not everyone like a large majority to role claim especially blues on day one.

FireNinja1 - You haven't been posting much, if i remember the last game i played with you. You were town and you posted a lot more than now. You could be "flying under the radar".

JellofishXD -



To be honest to me, I believe you could be mafia. You posted once when day started, then when there was an hour or less for day to end you appear. However, the first thing you post is:


I don't believe this, there was a ton of discussion going on to feel sus about someone.




You jump on to the Sp voting train, even tho you found prin sus? To me you hardly contribute. Judging the way you post is seems kinda the same as mean girls when you were mafia.

Ryan88 - same thing as Jellofish. hardly contributes. bandwagons. I really don't believe the whole newbie card on this one.

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At the start the game I woke up, and was on my phone when I was posting this:


I didn't find mew sus was telling that she shouldn't repeat her past mistake when she was Dr. in Xcom. I mentioned Jellofish because when I was reading to catch up I haven't seen him/her post. I needed to vote for someone because i was in a rush. So I placed my vote for jello when he/she was inactive at the time.

Bravo on getting an idea of my playing style when I am a townie or mafia. (claps)

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<333

Prin was on my WATCH LIST (not suspicion) and I agree there was a lot of discussion but even then I didn't find anyone and the discussion was mainly about lynching me so.....

 

[Geoni]

Okay I'll make my own list post.

The townies I think are legit townies

Me - because I'm me and I know who I am

Tsundere - I asked them to out the monster that the townie role was since they already claimed townie to test their claim, and they passed the test. Being the first to do so, I consider them the only confirmed townie.

Ashtot - I don't think he'd get so emotional and make the decisions he has made if he were mafia, and I don't think he's capable of using reverse psychology in that this could be an act.

Probably town

Minties - Is making critical posts and carries with them the emotional tone that she's on the town side, and generally posts like she was posting when she was rookie in Xcom. However, I think this is a good player and that she could cover herself well if she were mafia.

Ryan88 - I think he was angry about getting voted for in the end and spouted the good old 'good job lynching town' when he was about to get lynched. But he didn't get lynched and he's still alive, and I honestly think that he could have been a mislynch. However, the disappearing acts and the possibility that he was trying to claim town until the -very- end makes me think that he could be mafia.

Superpenguin - Playing to survive along with a couple of other things I've already talked about. However, to feel a little more sure I want to hear his report if he survives the night and didn't get roleblocked.

Idk (atm I think one of these three could be mafia as well)

Tom - For somebody who is a mafia veteran, I think that his trying to get superpenguin lynched wasn't very pro town and that he wouldn't take SP's actions in this game so emotionally. However, the emotional tone behind his posts make me think that he's probably town, or a veeery clever mafia member with a lot of skill in writing a false tone.

JellofishXD - Not an easy person to read. I can believe reasons for inactivity due to her inactivity in on the run and getting modkilled as blue there. Something does seem fishy though. Jellofishy.

Prin - doesn't usually out as a blue in the games I have played with her, and even though she claims to have claimed doctor out of stress and a bad day. I also find it funny that she stated that she'd protect herself. However, with that last post by her she seems to be contributing more than others are.

The ones I think might be scum

FireNinja1 - the only one in this game that hasn't claimed yet. And he has played enough games to make me think that he could be posting more and helping out more. This is the person I feel the most sure about at this moment.

NikkiNikki - Tsundere did all the work for me here, you do seem scummy in this game, and were hesitant to claim townie when almost everyone has already claimed to be something.

 

[JellofishXD]

That he COULD be a distraction from his lying earlier COULD!!!! also I didnt intend to bandwagon I genuinely felt that way!

 

[toastia]

That he COULD be a distraction from his lying earlier COULD!!!! also I didnt intend to bandwagon I genuinely felt that way!

Are you saying that so you wont be held responsible?
Whats the difference beteeen a watch list and a sus list?

 

[NikkiNikki]

NikkiNikki - Tsundere did all the work for me here, you do seem scummy in this game, and were hesitant to claim townie when almost everyone has already claimed to be something.

Because that what I am? yeah like everyone else. welcome to claim city

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roleclaim city*