Mafia TBT Mafia II: Mafia Strike Back [Game Over/Mafia Win]

Since my word isn't going to be enough to convince you, I hope that Kayla gets on soon to back me up.


Throughout the game I've been on Kayla's case because she jumped for the protection of Mayor/Sheriff. I saw that as suspicious so I jumped into making a case for Justin to prevent her from getting mayor, and after I was onto her pretty much every day.

Except for recently. I kept up my act of accusing her to make you guys/the mafia off of me because I was essentially helping them by accusing Kayla. We had a very interesting set of events happen.

I had Justin roleclaim as Veteran to me, and Beary roleclaimed Veteran to Kayla.
This is interesting because I'm a veteran, and I'm not putting too much stake into there being three of us.

An inspection of Justin turned him up veteran, but my suspicion here is that he's the Godfather, and chose to be a veteran when he needed to choose what to show up as when inspected. So we had a choice with Beary. We try to convince you guys that they were town, or let them die so we knew for sure if they were telling the truth about being a veteran. They died blue.

So my vote is going to Justin. If you guys believe any of this I advise you to do the same, and again, hopefully Kayla gets on soon and posts because most of you take her word over anyone else's.

That's a very bold accusation with no proof. We have some evidence against Waffles so for you to be on Justin's case is something that needs to be acknowledged.

I hope Kayla gets on to see your post soon so we can hear her side of things too.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Gallows who inspected Justin? Is there another detective?
 
I'm just going to say in advance: I think it's 1000000% better if the person does not reveal who did the Inspection. We don't really know 100% who took down the bodyguard ( although apparently it was the Vengeful Vigilante who claimed the kill of the bodyguard :c ) and we can't afford to give the Mafia any more leads.

It's definitely true that Gallows and I have sealed a truce through PMs and have been sharing information. We had a huge question mark on Beary509 and that is why her lynch would / has given us information. There are certain people who seem to be hiding Mafia under their supposed roles. We're hoping to find & strike down the Godfather so that we can get that distraction out of the way. So yes, what Gallows has said is true.

The only reason I may be hesitating right now is because Justin is Mayor of all things. I know that we could have easily gotten a Mafia player elected, but what if this is a trick from the Mafia to try to help themselves to get out the elected roles quicker? I have to think from both sides because, I can easily be the next target for the Mafia. The only thing keeping me vocal right now is that fact that they can't touch me at night yet. Right now we have one bodyguard left which allows us to delay the Mafia a tiny bit from getting to me at least.

I can confirm that Justin has been inspected & came up Veteran though, by one of the Detectives.

People in the PMs also know that Riley has a big question mark right now. He was way too quick to jump on the Beary509 train. It felt like he was taking an advantage of a situation to keep others alive. He was also quick to get on the Hikari bandwagon too, which is why he has a huge question mark. Maybe he thought that we wouldn't successfully take down Hikari though? I honestly do not know. It's really hard to tell if he has a plan going and is taking advantage of the situations. Question mark.
 
So has gallows been inspected that we know of? He's calling justin out, yet he could be the one that's role claiming, we need to think about both sides here. If anyone knows please do share.
 
If Justin was town, I think the double lynch would have at least been discussed by now, if not all ready used.
 
Well, to be honest Gallows wasn't inspected as far as I know. There were other people who had to be inspected before him.
 
If Justin was town, I think the double lynch would have at least been discussed by now, if not all ready used.

I can use it today if everyone agrees we should. But honestly, nobody has even brought it up until yesterday. The purpose of a Double Lynch is to take out two mafia in a single day, instead of one. We've barely even had one solid lead on a mafia in a day, let alone two. So I really don't think it'd be very smart at this point, it's likely to just cause an extra town death if anything.
 
If we were to use double lynch we need to compile a definite list of who is suspicious then we can all pick and choose who or even just vote and state why. Either or.. It could be treacherous for us to lynch two more town and the remaining blues we have, we need to be sure!
 
You have to annouc it the day before. I think Justin is a lousy mayor, too busy for the role and not at all up to date with the current happenings. But gallows... Yes, Gallows actually has now targeted both elected roles. While Justin was role checked, gallows apparently has not been. He apparently had communication going with oath and he claimed to know who the remaining blues were and according to his logic earlier used against Kayla, is it not then his fault those blues are dying?

I know I've been swaying votes today, but gallows, he's just too suspicious. Te fact that r refused to vote Hikari and was so early in voting beary really scared me into believing he is mafia.
 
Okay everyone I'm really stressed out at this point and I'm going to unvote for the next hour or two... We need people talking! Everyone talk! Just do stuff!
 
If I was the mayor, I wouldn't use my double lynch unless I was pretty sure that both hits would be mafia. I'm not really sure what to think of Gallow's argument because I personally didn't see a lot of evidence in there. Riley does seem go along with everyone else most of the time, and will just agree with a major player and then just vote. Waffles sometimes has odd posts, and she never answered Lauren about why she thought Lauren would be killed. Though, Waffles did post a fair defense. Honestly, I don't know what I will do yet, any other thoughts?
 
Okay I really have to go with my gut here, as these things were brought up to me in a PM and is making me really nervous. I trust my circle more than I trust the recent people who decided to join with us.

Gallows has only accused two people this entire game: Me + Justin. The problem here is that both Justin and I are the elected roles. What better way to get out a Mayor + Sheriff than to try and convince the Town they are Mafia? It's making me nervous that I might potentially be falling into a trap .. getting out Justin only to get me out next. :l Gallows has obviously tried to get me out forever, and perhaps realizing that I was the harder of the two to knock out he is now trying to get out Justin. We already have one bodyguard down for what ever reason (Vigilante or not?). I feel like he might be using my voice to get the Town to get out Justin easier. This is the trap I feel like I might be falling into right now.

The biggest problem I have so far is that Justin was inspected and returned Veteran. Gallows has not been inspected & that's due to the fact that we had other people to inspect instead. So I honestly do not know what Gallows' role is besides what he is claiming to be .. "Veteran".

What's also bugging me is that Gallows voted for me on the day we tried to get Hikari lynched. This was obviously a crucial point in the game when we were working to get the Mafia KP down from 3 to 2. Gallows was also trying to steer the town away from lynching Hikari that day.

Results of the Day 3 lynch:

Hikari (21)
Trundle
iLoveYou
Riley
FoxWolf64
Tom
FireNinja1
oath2order
SuperPenguin
Justin
tsundere
Lauren
MyLifeIsCake
beary509
Horus
bluegoat14
BlueLeaf
BellBringerGreen
ITookYourWaffles
Farobi
pallycake
Kuma

tsundere (1)
Hikari

iLoveYou (1)
Prof Gallows

AndyB did not vote and will be modkilled.

Hikari will be lynched.

Not to mention Gallows has admitted to knowing all the blue roles, more than once. Oath2Order has been in contact with Gallows and died thereafter (other people can confirm that Gallows has been in contact with Oath2Order). He tried to tell the Town that I claimed to know all of the blue roles, but that wasn't true at all as I explained when I replied to him. He was literally trying to peg me as the person responsible for their deaths. Then he admits the truth and says that he's heard about their blue roles from "several sources".

A lot of our blues died because they were open about their roles.

I'd heard from multiple sources about Thunder, River, Lynn, and VillageDweller. The only blue I didn't know of was Oath, until it was too late of course. Word spreads around fast. Even telling one person is putting yourself at risk.


I had Justin roleclaim as Veteran to me, and Beary roleclaimed Veteran to Kayla.
This is interesting because I'm a veteran, and I'm not putting too much stake into there being three of us.

An inspection of Justin turned him up veteran, but my suspicion here is that he's the Godfather, and chose to be a veteran when he needed to choose what to show up as when inspected. So we had a choice with Beary. We try to convince you guys that they were town, or let them die so we knew for sure if they were telling the truth about being a veteran. They died blue.

He is role claiming as Veteran, but this isn't confirmed by any means. Beary509 and Justin have been confirmed. Sure there may be a Godfather amongst the 3 Veterans, but what if it is Gallows himself?

I have to go with my gut feeling right now. I just hope this is a good decision.
 

I know I sound like a huge agree-guy this day but I agree with this. I know I did it earlier today earlier but I think that the fastest we get out our suspicions of players who are known to be good players, the faster we can narrow down the not so good players. I'm feeling that this day may or may not result in a mafia kill but if we get lucky enough, Gallows may just be what we're looking for. I've had an off-putting feeling about Gallows this whole game and I feel it's time to get my underlying suspicion out of the way.
 
Okay I really have to go with my gut here, as these things were brought up to me in a PM and is making me really nervous. I trust my circle more than I trust the recent people who decided to join with us.

Gallows has only accused two people this entire game: Me + Justin. The problem here is that both Justin and I are the elected roles. What better way to get out a Mayor + Sheriff than to try and convince the Town they are Mafia? It's making me nervous that I might potentially be falling into a trap .. getting out Justin only to get me out next. :l Gallows has obviously tried to get me out forever, and perhaps realizing that I was the harder of the two to knock out he is now trying to get out Justin. We already have one bodyguard down for what ever reason (Vigilante or not?). I feel like he might be using my voice to get the Town to get out Justin easier. This is the trap I feel like I might be falling into right now.

The biggest problem I have so far is that Justin was inspected and returned Veteran. Gallows has not been inspected & that's due to the fact that we had other people to inspect instead. So I honestly do not know what Gallows' role is besides what he is claiming to be .. "Veteran".

What's also bugging me is that Gallows voted for me on the day we tried to get Hikari lynched. This was obviously a crucial point in the game when we were working to get the Mafia KP down from 3 to 2. Gallows was also trying to steer the town away from lynching Hikari that day.


Not to mention Gallows has admitted to knowing all the blue roles, more than once. Oath2Order has been in contact with Gallows and died thereafter (other people can confirm that Gallows has been in contact with Oath2Order). He tried to tell the Town that I claimed to know all of the blue roles, but that wasn't true at all as I explained when I replied to him. He was literally trying to peg me as the person responsible for their deaths. Then he admits the truth and says that he's heard about their blue roles from "several sources".






He is role claiming as Veteran, but this isn't confirmed by any means. Beary509 and Justin have been confirmed. Sure there may be a Godfather amongst the 3 Veterans, but what if it is Gallows himself?

I have to go with my gut feeling right now. I just hope this is a good decision.

The only reason I may be hesitating right now is because Justin is Mayor of all things. I know that we could have easily gotten a Mafia player elected, but what if this is a trick from the Mafia to try to help themselves to get out the elected roles quicker? I have to think from both sides because, I can easily be the next target for the Mafia. The only thing keeping me vocal right now is that fact that they can't touch me at night yet. Right now we have one bodyguard left which allows us to delay the Mafia a tiny bit from getting to me at least.

I can confirm that Justin has been inspected & came up Veteran though, by one of the Detectives.

I'm going to go ahead and put my vote in for Gallows for now. Though I'm not too sure about any of the voting candidates, I think he is the best vote, after reading the posts. There wasn't a lot of evidence in his accusations, and taking down the mayor and sheriff would be a good for the mafia. He's only accused the mayor and the sheriff, which seems strange. I wasn't aware that Gallows knew many of the blue roles until Kayla posted that recently. Gallows has a lot of influence, and it sees like this was done out of the blue. If they were to choose someone to bring up the suspicion of the mayor and sheriff, it would be Gallows.
 
Been busy with school a bit, couldn't read some posts. Do we really only have 1 + 39 mins hours left to vote before day ends? I have no clue on who to vote lawl, and i bet a bunch of people are going to get modkilled :[
 
I've decided to switch from Waffles as I have room to believe they aren't Mafia. Also, I have been seeing some very strange activity from Gallows of who I have voted for. For one;

1) He was gunning for Kayla all of the way through this game, without fail he would have some form of reason to why we should Lynch Kayla, but he had made his bed at this point, if Kayla died and was blue or green it would be obvious his role.

I still think Kayla is making huge fools out of all of you but going down that road isn't going to get me anywhere.

I thought beary at first but I think I may have just jumped onto that off of misunderstanding the posts. Waffles hasn't done really anything I can see that would make me go for them, other than a few people mentioning one or two things.
So I dunno. Right now the only things to go off of are lack of posts and supposedly weird votes.

Think people should go back and look at the previous game. This happened last time.

2) He has changed to Justin so suddenly, I personally haven't seen anything suspicious from Justin but that because he has helped get mafia members and has stated some good points throughout the game.

3) I am now compiling both of my points stated above, he has been gunning for both of our members in power, why? Why is he trying to turn the people against us who has been helping all of the way through?

Since my word isn't going to be enough to convince you, I hope that Kayla gets on soon to back me up.


Throughout the game I've been on Kayla's case because she jumped for the protection of Mayor/Sheriff. I saw that as suspicious so I jumped into making a case for Justin to prevent her from getting mayor, and after I was onto her pretty much every day.

Except for recently. I kept up my act of accusing her to make you guys/the mafia off of me because I was essentially helping them by accusing Kayla. We had a very interesting set of events happen.

An inspection of Justin turned him up veteran, but my suspicion here is that he's the Godfather, and chose to be a veteran when he needed to choose what to show up as when inspected. So we had a choice with Beary. We try to convince you guys that they were town, or let them die so we knew for sure if they were telling the truth about being a veteran. They died blue.

So my vote is going to Justin. If you guys believe any of this I advise you to do the same, and again, hopefully Kayla gets on soon and posts because most of you take her word over anyone else's.

4) From what I saw and many have also commented on him defending Hikari of who was found to be mafia after we as a town lynched him...

Results of the Day 3 lynch:

Hikari (21)
Trundle
iLoveYou
Riley
FoxWolf64
Tom
FireNinja1
oath2order
SuperPenguin
Justin
tsundere
Lauren
MyLifeIsCake
beary509
Horus
bluegoat14
BlueLeaf
BellBringerGreen
ITookYourWaffles
Farobi
pallycake
Kuma

tsundere (1)
Hikari

iLoveYou (1)
Prof Gallows

Sorry I took so long, I only got in like 2 hours ago so i needed to get myself sorted, showered and ready for tonight. I feel the quotes i have used are relevant and back my argument up well.
 
Petition to urge Karla to expand the Day Period? If so, send him a PM! We need to try to get more time. Way too much to discuss.
 
What I find strange is that why on earth would A godfather choose a blue role? The best role to claim as Mafia is a Townie. There both kind of the same thing, but a Townie is safer in my opinion. This is an unlikely scenario and therefore Gallows is probably lying. I will insert a vote today for Gallows most likely, as Waffles is a non-contributor, and look where we got ourselves into from doing that.
 
What I find strange is that why on earth would A godfather choose a blue role? The best role to claim as Mafia is a Townie. There both kind of the same thing, but a Townie is safer in my opinion. This is an unlikely scenario and therefore Gallows is probably lying. I will insert a vote today for Gallows most likely, as Waffles is a non-contributor, and look where we got ourselves into from doing that.

Let's look at the benefits...

First off, no vig or mad hatter in their right mind would target any known blue.

Veteran: Can claim they were shot by the mafia, but since Veterans are known to have two lives, no one would question why they aren't dead yet. Good to claim if you plan on taking a leadership approach and thus would get the town to believe you are a target of the mafia, basically an ultimate townie.

Detective: You all ready know your fellow mafia members' roles and who is town. You basically all ready are a detective. Great for a mayor or Sheriff to claim considering people will PM them roleclaims. They can then fake that they found out these claims through being a detective.

Mad Hatter: People will fear killing you in any way. You tell them you placed a bomb on them and need the next night to remove it or else that person will die along with you, you just bought yourself some more time.

Any Vigilante: Fake a shot that was actually shot by the mafia.

Medic: I really don't know any benefit here other than to make people feel they are safe when they aren't. But by looking at the night post, that'd kind of give you up.

Body Guard(Is it possible to pick this role?): The elected roles will be protecting you at ALL costs.

Nonetheless, all blue roles would be protected by the town more significantly than townies would be.
 
No I don't want to extend day, 32 hours is enough for a game at this stage, and I won't be online until about 3pm GMT tomorrow.

- - - Post Merge - - -

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Night 5

Despite the poor turnout, the town vote to lynch Prof Gallows.



Prof Gallows the Veteran was lynched.

pallycake, BlueLeaf and BellBringerGreen the Townies were modkilled.

ITookYourWaffles the Vengeful Vigilante was modkilled.



I'm pretty disappointed at the inactivity.
It is now Night. Mafia KP = 2.
 
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